Talk:Iceland Crisis Response Unit
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What is the Icelandic Intelligence Serivice?
[edit]I've never heard of it. There was some talk about it in the media here a few months ago (my memory fails me) but the claims of it existing were dismissed by the government. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.144.41.200 (talk) 23:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
- It exists actually, although the sherriff said he would probably find a new english name. Currently we have 3 intelligence gathering organizations, Skattrannsóknarstjóri Ríkisins, Greiningardeild Ríkislögreglustjórans og Greiningardeild Varnarmálastofnunar Íslands. What their names in English may change as they are not official and can theoritically change quickly. IIS in this question is the last one (GVÍ). As I believe GRLS is named the Icelandic National Security Department. - Kjallakr (talk) 16:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Why is this categorized with a WEU flag at the bottom? Iceland is NOT a weu member mereley an Associate and a non active one at that.
- Because the template for indicating stubs about European military has that flag, take the issue there if you don't think that's appropriate. --Bjarki 21:39, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Arnór Sigurjónsson
[edit]I don't know if Arnór Sigurjónsson is still the director of ICRU at the Icelandic Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but I have found an article (in Norwegian Bokmål) from 2005 with some information on his background ([1]). He trained as an officer in the Norwegian Army and served in Lebanon, with 2nd Battalion/Brigade Nord at Skjold and with the Army Staff. Is he still attached to ICRU? -- Nidator 17:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
- They fired Arnór Sigurjónsson when he got a food poisoning in Afghanistan at the same time the Foreign minister was changed. Some woman whose name escapes me at the moment was hired instead. I don't know if she has any military experience. Arnór is no doubt still working somewhere in the Defence department though, at least as an advisor. -- 58.191.155.98 05:54, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for the information. I think perhaps a small section about the leadership could be included in the article. -- Nidator 14:22, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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Viking Squad?
[edit]Is this the same force called the "Viking Squad" in the late 1980s? 155.84.57.253 (talk) 17:55, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- That is the counter-terrorism/SWAT unit of the Icelandic police. It still exists. Chwyatt (talk) 18:39, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
ICRU as the Japananse Self Defence Forces
[edit]I have removed this section of the text.
"Despite being equipped and trained as a military force, some Icelandic politicians commonly maintain that the ICRU is a civilian unit. This opinion is based on the fact that no law explicitly states that the unit is a military force. The legal status of the ICRU can thus be compared to the Japanese Self-Defence Forces, even though Icelandic law holds no legal obstructions to forming of military units."
I´ve removed the reference to the ICRU being equipped and trained as a military force, as it no longer carries any weapons and the contraversy on its status is covered elsewhere. At the same time the comparision with the Japanese Self-Defence Forces are questionable to say the least, as one is a military force which has the primary objective to defend Japan and has just recently started contributing to peacekeeping missions. The other is only allowed to carry weapons in execeptional cases and is only mandated by law to participate in international peacekeeping operations or similar. [1].
Additionally the law states: "Utanríkisráðuneytinu er heimilt að taka þátt í alþjóðlegri friðargæslu og senda borgaralega sérfræðinga til starfa við friðargæsluverkefni í því skyni." or in English "The Foreign Ministry is allowed to participate in international peacekeeping operations and send to those civilian experts to work for those missions." The dispute is over this clause: "Íslenskum friðargæsluliðum er heimilt að bera vopn við störf sín sér til sjálfsvarnar krefjist aðstæður þess, enda hafi þeir fengið viðeigandi þjálfun til vopnaburðarins." or in English "Icelandic peacekeepers are allowed to carry weapons while working for their own self-defence if circumstances so require, understanding that they have recieved appropriate training to do so."
So saying that no law explicitly states that the unit is a military force is true, on the contrary the civilian nature is stressed. What is disputed is if these peacekeepers should be allowed carry weapons for self defence. By a decision of the former Social-Democrat Foreign Minister all those ICRU posts where weapons were required, do not require weapons any more. [2]
In whole the paragraph above gives both wrong statements (on the comparison with the Japanese Self-Defence Force) and misleading statements as argued above. I have therefore removed the paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Change131 (talk • contribs) 06:21, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Re-added the text since its you "unsigned" who are inaccurate and POV. According to ISAF for example, Iceland Crisis Response Unit contributes soldiers to its mission. see: http://www.isaf.nato.int/troop-numbers-and-contributions/iceland/index.php -Kjallakr (talk) 22:19, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
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