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Reworked Indy Animatronic
[edit]The IndyCast episode 84 (from October 2009) reports that the original animatronic Indy at the Gates of Doom has been replaced with a new animatronic figure, which is "much more alive, with more emotion." And, indeed, if you google for Indy animatronic, you'll find video on YouTube comparing the new and the old, as well as lots of board discussion.
Should post-opening ride development be included? I would think that it would. 75.34.225.21 (talk) 07:15, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Informal tone
[edit]This article needs to be thoroughly tweaked. Too much blurb-like language.
What is so bad about the tone in this article? I don't agree one bit. It sounds perfect to me. You need to watch Indiana Jones movies more if you don't like the weasel words. This article sounds exciting. You do want to read it!!! Dinofunsaur 05:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm working at clarifying it. Disneywizard (talk) 19:28, 31 March 2010 (UTC). Clarification complete Disneywizard (talk) 23:14, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Quotes
[edit]The quotes the animatronic Indiana Jones makes are not absolute; they are just one of several that Indiana might make (each ride is supposed to be a pretty much unique adventure with different quotes or bumps). Another examine of this is when John Rhys Davis notes there is a little trouble with the brakes (or transmission, etc.).
I am clarifying by generalising what the character is talking about, and including one quote that follows the phrase "might say somthing such as this: " Perhaps a bulleted list detailing each quote belongs in the Indiana Jones Adventure (expose) article, to preserve discovery. Disneywizard (talk) 19:35, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Also the violin music noted is actually from John William's soundtrack to Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, and was used in the mine cart sequence. --Jclinard 06:28, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
Specific music references have been incorporated at the end of each segment. Disneywizard (talk) 19:35, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Hidden Mickeys
[edit]Please allow only these four Hidden Mickeys here in the main article - Three verified and one contested. Any additional Hidden Mickeys you may wish to add belong in the Indiana Jones Adventure (expose) article.
Trivia
[edit]Trivia does not belong below the main article. If it is important to the guest experience then include it using sentences in the appropriate paragraph.
Trivia is also welcomed in the Indiana Jones Adventure (expose)#Trivia article. Disneywizard (talk) 23:28, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Queue
[edit]I added the bit about the queue in the Trivia section. Feel free to delete if you want, it just didn't sound up to Encylopedia standards, although I do think it has some merit. -24.7.78.69 05:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
- The bamboo pole in the skull room has been removed, or at least I couldn't see it today.
Occasionally the bamboo support will be removed due to a tourist breaking it. I repaired the entry.-- johnnycgir
Attraction infobox
[edit]I added an attraction infobox. Disneyfile 18:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I added the Japanese version in the Attraction information box. I am not sure, if most of the the facts are correct. Could someone please edited and add accurate facts of the attraction. --SilverWerewolf 9:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
The Disneyland Resort (Anaheim) Indiana Jones Adventure: - Forbidden Eye and the Indiana Jones Adventure (Tokyo):Temple of the Crystal Skull are two seperate and distinct attractions - and should not be detailed on the same page. This page is for the Anaheim adventure.
- A separate page has been created for Tokyo, and the infobox for Indiana Jones Adventure (Tokyo) moved with it. Disneywizard (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC).
Indy ride record attempt
[edit]I actually know (of) the person involved in the ride attempt added recently. But it's not encyclopedic material unless verified by a attributable source. Sorry guys. --Monotonehell 10:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Boulder effect
[edit]The animation in the article seems to indicate that the boulder doesn't move. By watching this news clip [1], clearly the boulder moves and the walls only move to fake backing up, not moving along with the car as indicated in the animation. This section needs to be fixed. 76.174.57.131 00:52, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- It looks stationary to me. What is the time stamp for when it appears to move? A quick Google search of some Disney forums seems to indicate that it is stationary, but I'll try and find a cite-able source to confirm it one way or the other. Xargon666x6 17:59 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- At about 2:43 it moves, it also is first seen spinning and not moving and once done moving continues to spin without moving. On the attraction I've watched the boulder suddenly move backward into place, but firsthand experience is not an attributable source. It is good to see the completely incorrect animation removed, however. 76.174.57.131 23:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- What we really need is the patent for the machine that drives the boulder’s rotation. I tried searching every patent filled by Disney between 1992 and 1995 with no luck. Any ideas? Xargon666x6 18:24 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Ok,I've now been convinced by some pictures on Flickr, as well as a description given by someone who was on the ride when it broke down, that the Boulder does move, and I now have a pretty good idea of how it actually works. Unfortunately I have made no progress on finding a citeable source. Xargon666x6 22 November 2007 —Preceding comment was added at 21:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Here's how it works. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRU8zdc2rCQ But still not a citeable source.Xargon666x6 (talk) 18:36, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Having stood at the supports for the rolling boulder, I can attest first hand that the boulder is fixed in place and only rolls. The illusion is supported by the car slowly moving forward while Indy, the rope he is hanging on, and the entire room moves away from the viewer, at the speed of the boulder approach, giving the appearance of the boulder moving forward as the troop transport "backs up". One can verify this by looking at the floor durring this scene, as well as by the "epiphany shot," from cinema, of zooming out while trucking in. To see the epiphany shot, simply turn around and look backward as this scene activates. The boulder is static and stationary as it rotates and provides plenty of clearance as the car elevates the load and the carriage decends on it's slow approach, keeping tall guests outstreched arms well outside a buffer zone.
- Explainations of the effects and methods belong in Indiana Jones Adventure (expose) - not in the main article. Disneywizard (talk) 19:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Tracks
[edit]There are at least two tracks, I'm not sure about a third one, but I have been on two tracks, one is less bumpy that the other. Oh sry, this is the Disneyland version. DLWDWFreek (talk) 19:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
- AN other thing is that heard they were going to close it and retheme it. Is it possible to fit that rumor anywhere within the article and explain that there are RUMORS that it may be closing down for some retheming?DLWDWFreek (talk) 19:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
To the best of my knowledge there is only one track; the variations in ride intensity are programmed into the vehicle itself, which does most of the bumping and moving via a mobile platform, as seen in the blueprints in this article. - Zarm, 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zarm Rkeeg (talk • contribs) 18:48, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Aside from the maintenance bay and left/right loading/disembark station, guests experience the only existent track on their adventure. The attraction is fifteen years of age and showing it. Periodic closures for refurbishment are to be expected. No major re-theming has ever been scheduled.
- DLWDWFreek: Wikipedia is for facts, please leave the rumor-mill at the parks.
- Explainations of the effects and methods belong in Indiana Jones Adventure (expose) - not in the main article.
Disneywizard (talk) 19:44, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Adventure opening
[edit]park ride opening - Although the ride officially opened on March 3rd, 1995, it was opened to a limited number of guests on march 2nd!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.181.110.126 (talk) 05:26, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Soft Opening - To test loading and to train the crew, several "Rope Drops" occured in February 1995, each from fifteen minutes to an hour. Marketing analysts were also present to observe reactions to the extreamly long queue and the onboard guest experience. March 2 was the Press Preview. March 1 was cast member preview night, each castmember was given a white folded "passport", it was stamped just before boarding, and only unstamped passport holders were allowed to board.
Opening Gala - Celebrities were invited to the Official Opening, a special ticketed event, otherwise closed to the public. The special ticket admitted one to receive a gift bag containing a "decoder lanyard" on which was printed the name of the guest and served as the event pass. Cameras were present to broadcast the March 3, 1995 opening event around the globe. Most of Adventureland was behind temporary construction walls.
Public opening - Indiana Jones Adventure, Temple of the Forbidden Eye was made available to the Disneyland park General Admission guests March 4, 1995. Disneywizard [primary reference, direct experience, having been involved in each event.] (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:28, 30 August 2009 (UTC). [also: please do remember - Disneyland has NO park rides, only Adventures, attractions, voyages, and cruises and flights.]
World War II Troop Transport
[edit]I actually think that the vehicle type listed at "World War II Troop Transport" is incorrect. If the ride is "set in the Lost Delta of India, circa 1935," then it would be impossible for it to be a World War II vehicle as the war, for what is widely known was '39-'45. I think it should be listed as a "military-like" transport. jgamboa —Preceding undated comment was added at 05:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Corrected to "Military Troop Transport" Disneywizard (talk) 03:52, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Crystal Skull IS NOT Forbidden Eye
[edit]"the opening scene is quite different" to quote the offending author
- So are the world hemispheres, culture, language... et cetera.
They are, indeed, separate entities, and should not be combined into one entry. A new page entry should be created for Crystal Skull, comparisons removed, and a link to the new page added.
Update
[edit]Two distinct entries have been made, one for each attraction.
- U.S.A., California, Anaheim, Disneyland Resort, Adventureland, Indiana Jones Adventure: Temple of the Forbidden Eye
- Japan, Tokyo, DisneySeas, ?, Indiana Jones Adventure (Tokyo): Temple of the Crystal Skull
Comparisons and contrasts have been removed from both essays, and links reference the similar pages. The new page needs alot of work.
- Explainations of the effects and methods belong in Indiana Jones Adventure (expose) - not in the main article.
Encyclopediacly yours, —(o=8> Disneywizard (talk) 03:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
ride description
[edit]is it absolutely necessary to have subsections for every little bit of the ride? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.108.77.99 (talk) 04:11, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Other articles reference the subsections.Disneywizard (talk) 19:53, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
(EXPOSE) IS NOT FORBIDDEN EYE!
[edit]Secrets and spoilers belong on the (expose) page. Descriptions of the guest experience belong on Forbidden Eye. The spoiler page was added to comply with WikiProject_Disney and WikiProject_Disneyland.
- I dislike this. It makes navigating the relevant information more difficult, and I've never seen this system used in any other article. The article of almost every film contains a plot synopsis, without spoiler tags and certainty not on another page. Xargon666x6 (talk) 09:50, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
- It is especially inconvenient now that the spoiler page has been deleted. As such I'm going to restore the article to the last revision before the split. Sorry DisneyWizard. Xargon666x6 (talk) 09:57, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
GA Review Changes made to the article
[edit]Much like what has happened on Talk:The Simpsons Ride I have had to re-word bits of info on this article and figure whether some parts are correct.
- "The queue begins out side where guests wind past a 2.5 ton Mercedes-Benz troop transport truck."
Where is it proven about the weight of the truck? I don't see a source for this anywhere.
-It is the model of the truck, designated by the load capacity. Referenced in SOP documentation and also in the binder at City Hall and the Wait-Times board kiosk at Plaza.Disneywizard (talk) 22:22, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- "When the key supporting pole is pushed up into the ceiling, guests are startled by sounds of the crushing ceiling dropping as the spikes begin to slowly descend toward them." a bit wordy> "When the key supporting pole is pushed up into the ceiling guests are startled by sounds of the ceiling dropping as the spikes begin to slowly descend toward them."
- "Further on pulling on a rope triggers responses from, Dr. Dunfir Pullit, an out-of-sight archaeologist supported by the rope."
don't know why the comma is between "from" and "Dr. Dunfir Pullit" but I removed this comma. -that was my error in cleaning up an edit -- but his name is Dunfur, not Dunfir, and pronounced "Done-for" Disneywizard (talk) 22:22, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- "After a quick seatbelt check, the transport moves forward and turns a corner into the Chamber of Destiny. Sallah's radio announcement warning such as "Take it easy on the curves, the brakes may be needing a little adjustment"." This does not really make any sense and I don't get the point why the 2nd sentence is in italics. Changed to> "After a quick seatbelt check and a radio announcement warning from Sallah (such as "Take it easy on the curves, the brakes may be needing a little adjustment") the transport moves forward and turns a corner into the Chamber of Destiny."
- italics are described in the Music section as the audio track. Disneywizard (talk) 22:22, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- "The triumphant musical theme from Raiders of the Lost Ark is heard as the transport accelerates up the flight of stairs". Is this really necessary? We already have this sort mentioned elsewhere in the article. Changed it to> "The transport then accelerates up the flight of stairs."
- "The transport makes it safely across then careens to the right. turn." The end of this sentence appears to have grammaer mistake. I removed "turn".
-another of my errors in cleaning up an edit. These were all corrected in later edits but instead of simply adding the (expose) to the bottom of the article, the (expose) was removed and the article reverted to the one with the errors.Disneywizard (talk) 22:22, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
- "Blasts of air whoosh past adventurers launching darts heard striking the transport as it rolls over the trigger stones between the skeletal warriors, as though the tourists have set off booby traps." The beggining of this sentence is unclear and does not make sense. Changed it to> "Blasts of air whoosh past adventurers and launching darts are heard striking the transport as it rolls over the trigger stones between the skeletal warriors, as though the tourists have set off booby traps."
- "He welcomes the adventurers rescue and bids us to turn on the headlights and prepare for boarding". "us" sounds kind of subjective.> "He welcomes the adventurers and bids them to turn on the headlight and prepare for boarding".
The rest of the article is fine. trainfan01 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainfan01 (talk • contribs) 01:48, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
overcomplication?
[edit]is it REALLY necessary to have a subsection for every little part of the ride that is experienced? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.108.83.25 (talk) 05:19, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
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Possibility of an incorrect score
[edit]Hello! So according to the user Doge456, the ride has 2 different scores, one of them not being correct with timing issues, missing sounds, and other things. This seems like something that would be covered by reliable sources however I'm not finding any but I'm not very good at searching from what I've discovered. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry | Discord: Blaze Wolf#0001 (talk) 23:58, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
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