Talk:Issai Schur

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Quite poor English[edit]

How about editing the text? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:17, 7 February 2016 (UTC)


is it OK to give the list of the computers with this name ?

Yes, good idea. There must be a lot of them of Computer Science labs !

Self-identification vs. categories[edit]

The article states that Schur "considered himself German" in 1934. This is the reason used by User:Hasdrubal to remove the category Jewish Mathematicians. I disagree and reverse that. He chose to go to Palestine some years later. He did not do that as a German. He did that as a Jew. The point is to be classified as a Jewish Mathematician you need to be one at some (any) point in the life. Please comment/discuss here rather than remove this cat once again.

As for User:Hasdrubal's other removal of Israeli Matematician is less clear but let me argue for it. The point is if someone lived all his life in say Riga in the Soviet Union that doesn't prevent this person from being a Latvian mathematician even though formally Latvia was not a separate country in those years (it was at some point before and is now). Same with the Israel. It existed at some point before Schur came there and again shortly after his death. Had he lived an extra 7 years to be classified as such. Mhym 04:39, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Presumably, Schur chose to leave Germany because he wanted to remain alive. As for his choice of destination, most countries had closed their doors to refugees by that time. Your view of his emigration to what was then Palestine as a late change in self-identification requires documentary support; otherwise, you are extrapolating. (It would be interesting to see whether he did change his views; Fritz Haber had a change of heart in extremis.)

The State of Israel came into being in 1948. Before that, there were kingdoms called Judah, Judea and Palestine. The Biblical Kingdom of Israel - as opposed to Judah - is described in the Tanach as having turned to pagan gods, and bears no relation to the State of Israel or Schur.

What is most important is to respect the way Schur saw himself, whether or not we believe it sensible or understandable from our perspective, and whether or not it agrees with the way the Nazis saw him. - Hasdrubal

The above is ignorant nonsense on so many levels that it's hard to know where to begin. (a) There was never a 'Kingdom of Palestine', or indeed an independent country called 'Palestine'. (b) The Kingdom of Israel was JEWISH, and thus directly related to the State of Israel and to Jews. The fact that JEWISH prophets denounced the supposed immorality of its JEWISH kings is irrelevant. (c) The view of the Nazis is, indeed, irrelevant - Schur WAS Jewish. (d) Many scholars emigrated to the USA and to Britain. Schur went to the soon-to-become-Israel because he was JEWISH. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:13, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

It would be a good idea to write an article about the Schur-Szego composition of polynomials. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)