Talk:John Basilone/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jackyd101 (talk) 23:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, I have reviewed this article against the Wikipedia:good article criteria and although I am not quite prepared to pass the article for GA immediately, I don't think there is a long way to go. I have listed below the principle problems which prevent this article from achieving GA status. The article now has seven days to address these issues, and should the contributors disagree with my comments then please indicate below why you disagree and suggest a solution, compromise or explanation. Further time will be granted if a concerted effort is being made to address the problems, and as long as somebody is genuinely trying to deal with the issues raised then I will not fail the article. I am aware that my standards are quite high, but I feel that an article deserves as thorough a review as possible when applying for GA and that a tough review process here is an important stepping stone to future FAC attempts. Please do not take offence at anything I have said, nothing is meant personally and maliciously and if anyone feels aggrieved then please notify me at once and I will attempt to clarify the comments in question. Finally, should anyone disagree with my review or eventual decision then please take the article to WP:GAR to allow a wider selection of editors to comment on the issues discussed here. Well done on the work so far.--Jackyd101 (talk) 23:42, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Issues preventing promotion

• It is reasonably well written.

  a (prose): b (MoS):

• "At 18 he worked as a caddy for the local country club and decided to join the military" - no logical sequence, try "At 18 he worked as a caddy for the local country club before deciding to join the military"

• Done --Kumioko (talk) 01:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

• "After driving trucks for a few months he wanted to go back to Manilla" - sentence is too simple, try "After driving trucks for a few months he decided that he wanted to go back to Manilla"

• Done --Kumioko (talk) 01:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

• "when he got back to his hometown" - better phrased as "when he returned to his hometown"

• Done --Kumioko (talk) 01:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

• "The Marine Corps has a number of things named for him" - there has to be a better term than "things". How about "The Marine Corps has infrastructure named for him". Also remove "scattered" as redundant.

• Done --Kumioko (talk) 01:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

• It is factually accurate and verifiable.

  a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

• Do US medal citations come with dates of issue? If so, then please add them to the citations.

• Yes they do however I do not have the references to support an award date as of yet. I am going to continue developing this article to a and then FA status over the next couple months so I will incorporate the dates as I find the references to support them. The Medal of Honor date should be fairly easy since it was highly publicized but the Navy Cross one might be a bit more of a challenge. I hope this doesn't hold up the articles promotion but if it does, I understand. --Kumioko (talk) 02:04, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

It would be nice to see them when they are inserted, but I don't think this is a serious enough problem to hold up this nomination.--Jackyd101 (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

• "His pack is seen in the Ken Burns documentary "The War" in the Iwo Jima segment, although the significance is not noted in the narration" - this needs a source.

• Done I couldn't find a reference so I removed it for know. --Kumioko (talk) 01:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough.--Jackyd101 (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

• It is broad in its coverage.

  a (major aspects): b (focused):

• "after completing school when he was fifteen he dropped out prior to attending high school" - I am unfamiliar with the American education system, but how can a person simultaneously complete and drop out of school? Should there be an other word in there? (middle? junior?)

• To answer this question is a little long but here goes. The US education system has changed a lot of the years and back in his era it was not uncommon for people to leave school at various points. In todays system this would have been junior high school but back then they didn't use the term finishing school. When the references say graduate they mean that he completed the grade. I will reword it a little to reflect the actual grade unless I can find a suitable reference. --Kumioko (talk) 02:46, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

• Where was he when the US joined World War II? If it while he was in Cuba, then say so.

• I am stuck on this one for the moment also but let me do a little reading and see if I can figure it out. I should have the answers in the next couple days. --Kumioko (talk) 02:46, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Bay all means add it as I think it is valuable, but I wonj't hold up the nomination for this information.--Jackyd101 (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

• It follows the neutral point of view policy.

  a (fair representation): b (all significant views):

• It is stable.

  

• It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.

  a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):

• Overall:

  a Pass/Fail:

Good work, this is a very nice article. Since you are planning to continue work on this and in light of the work already completed I think this article is worthy of passing GA. Congratulations.--Jackyd101 (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)