Talk:John Ross (blogger)

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John Ross edit (talk · contribs)

October 2014[edit]

Added some refs - and deleted the deletion suggestion.

With regards "Prior to 1992 he worked in Russia as an adviser to multinantional companies.[citation needed]" This is his claim.

With regards to this "John Ross was a leading figure in Socialist Action (UK) a Trotskyite party.[citation needed]" This was from our site.

I am not sure what is contenious here or deserving of being deleted. (Msrasnw (talk) 14:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]

If you think there are problems with the article it is wise to raise them here or help improve the article by adding information. (Msrasnw (talk) 14:46, 1 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Please do not remove tags from the article. They are not solely directed at you and should be resolved before removing. In particular, the cleanup and context complaints have not been resolved. The article is not written according to our manual of style for biographies.

We cannot used material simply claimed by the subject, it must be from a third-party source. Yworo (talk) 15:01, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I undertood that self-published sources like the one that had been used here may be used as sources of information so long as the material is not unduly self-serving and that there is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity and the article is not based primarily on such sources and that it was in someway useful. As it stands we have lost his Russian period and his qualifiactions - but are either of these disputed? (Msrasnw (talk) 16:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]

While the article was not written according to our manual of style for biographies the manual of style for biographies states that these guidelines are recommended, but not required. I feel the article is now too big and clutered comapred to the earlier simpler version. (Msrasnw (talk) 16:20, 1 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]

There is a clean-up tag on the article. It is not clear what needs cleaning up - is it grammar, spelling, formatting, order, copyright issues, confusion, etc.? There is the claim that there is insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject. What kind of context is needed? (Msrasnw (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Looks good, great work. I hope you will help out on other articles as well. Yworo (talk) 22:02, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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April 2022[edit]

I have moved this page to John Ross (blogger). In my view, an AfD might also come as it's hard to see any real notability of the subject. What little notability exists seems to be entirely in blogging and Twitter to express opinions on the political fringes (denying the Uyghur genocide, defending Putin's war on Ukraine, etc.). The article was previously named John Ross (academic. That title was unfortunate in several ways. First, there is no evidence of any academic activity for this John Ross. No evidence of a PhD, and his record on Google Scholar is very far from any academic notability. Second, there are actually several prominent academics named John Ross, meaning that the risk for confusion was high with the previous misleading title.Jeppiz (talk) 20:27, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Calling John Ross a "blogger" is an incredibly blatant attempt to discredit him. Listing off some opinions you don't like in order to justify it is some pretty batshit obvious bias on your part. 2A02:C7E:3E99:2300:C4D0:81BD:E50:708E (talk) 00:40, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]