Talk:Julian of Eclanum

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This page needs to be refined but at least I have gotten it started. Maybe someone else will come along and refine it.

Did some refining but still needs some work.

The page is from the 1914 Schaff-Herzogg Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, putting it into the public domain. Per the website from where the information came, http://www.ccel.org/ccel/wace/biodict.html , this is in the public domain.

Coercive?[edit]

Isn't describing Augustine's views as "coercive" an ||NPOV|| violation? Delmlsfan 03:13, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just an honest and objective assessment, I would say

80.17.36.33 (talk) 14:43, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV on "Julian's Theology"[edit]

The wording of this section is extremely slanted towards Julian and almost abusive of Augustine, whose positions are not well expressed. If no one else does, I will make the necessary changes later. Snowboardpunk (talk) 00:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the main problem with this section is that it does not cite sources for the various claims made about Augustine's views. It is impossible to evaluate the validity of the author's summary of Augustine's viewpoint without consulting the original writings themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.191.196 (talk) 13:58, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article talks about Augustine spending years "fornicating" with prostitutes and concubines. Quite apart from the emotive language, there's no evidence that Augustine ever did anything of the kind. The obsessive sexual-related guilt found in the "Confessions" masks the fact that the actual activities he speaks of (e.g. having a girlfriend) were pretty minor; there's no hint that he had anything to do with prostitutes, for example. 129.67.85.162 (talk) 09:48, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move notification[edit]

There is a move request at Talk:Julian_the_Apostate#Requested_move_2 to move Julian the Apostate to Julian. Since this involves the question whether that Emperor is the primary (much more used than any other) meaning of Julian, the views of watchers of this page would be welcome. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clear Pro Julian biases[edit]

I don't care much for getting into debate but calling Julian's views a purifying movement in the face of the bullying Augustine seems to me that this is more specific editors personal opinions (not uncommon on the pages of the arch-pelagians) rather than actual scholarship. Would be better if we had some reputable sources that back up the claims made rather than anti-Augustine diatribes? Thoshammer3 (talk) 17:11, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]