Talk:Karl Deutsch

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+ The link in the line that reads "by authors of the Club of Rome such as Limits to Growth by Donatella Meadows, et al. (1972)." Is incorrect. The scholar is "Donella" Meadows. She already has a bio on Wikipedia, so her link could be changed from red to blue. Thanks for taking care of this. (I am new to Wikipedia editing, so I am unfortunately not able to make this correction myself. I would appreciate, however, receiving a message providing further guidance on this. -- Paugus). Paugus 17:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


I have changed the nationality reference from "Czech-American" to “Czech of German ancestry", because of the fact that his American nationality was an adopted condition, associated to his becoming a resident, university student, and later a professor in USA, while his German ancestry –to which he never resigned- was a born-with property. Throughout his academic life and after retirement from Harvard he maintained active links with his German language and culture social sciences peers in Switzerland, Austria, Germany, etc. To hold a passport from the adopted country of residence does not make one a bona fide national of that country. USA traditionally has been quite open, nearly careless, with the issue of passports: weapons scientists and technicians, political refugees, sport players, artists, writers, and entertainment people, and so on, readily adopt American nationality for practical and political reasons. Lcgarcia (talk) 01:04, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

While I disagree with your somewhat arbitrary claims that citizenship of a country "does not make one a bona fide national of that country", I feel that considering the contentiousness of Deutsch's nationality/ethnicity (he could reasonably be described as Austrian, Austro-Hungarian, German, German-speaking, Czech, Czechoslovak, Czechoslovakian, Bohemian or American... or any combination of the above!) and especially considering his own personal views on nationalism and national identity, it's better to just avoid categorizing him in the opening sentence. I've changed it so it just says that he was "from Prague" (which I feel is fairly uncontroversial) and later on, in the paragraph explaining his family background, have put mention of his being from a German-speaking family. Static Sleepstorm (talk) 12:13, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

About Deutsch's Czechoslovak citizenship[edit]

The current version reads that KWD adopted Czechoslovak citizenship after World War I. I have not seen the source for this piece of information but I think it should be more precise and expanded. WW I ended in 1917, the independent republic of Czechoslovakia was created in 1918, when he was 6 years old; he became a legal adult in 1932 and migrated to USA in 1939, to flee away from Nazism. So KWD must have decided to adopt Czechoslovak citizenship between 1932 and 1939, when Nazi Germany's influence was increasing. Was his decision to adopt Czechoslovak citizenship a protest against this influence? Many of his contemporary German ancestry men and women were discontent and considered a break from Czechoslovakia with the support of the Sudeten German Party. I think it is important to clarify this, because he became a very opinionated political scientist; his areas of interest were war-peace, nationalism, all related to his youth experiences. Lcgarcia (talk) 05:45, 18 April 2012 (UTC)