Talk:Knickerbockers (clothing)

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Idiomatic expression[edit]

""Don't get your knickers in a twist" (i.e., "don't get all hot under the collar")"

Trying to explain one idiomatic expression by using another one isn't very helpful. Jooler (talk) 22:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. I've gone ahead and removed the entire thing, because it doesn't really convey anything useful to the article anyway. -kotra (talk) 23:18, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The name and the thing itself[edit]

The article riffs on the word knickerbocker and its various applications, but the item of clothing seems to pre-date the adoption of the name. The history of the garment itself isn't too clear in the article atm. Hakluyt bean (talk) 19:53, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Are knickerbockers a continuation of breeches? Azalea pomp (talk) 04:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, as the article states: "...by 1831, "Knickerbocker" had become a local bye-word for an imagined old Dutch-descended New York aristocracy, their old-fashioned ways, their long-stemmed pipes, and knee-breeches long after the fashion had turned to trousers. (Such cultural heritage springing almost entirely from Irving's imagination and becoming a well-known example of an invented tradition.)" What could be clearer?--Wetman (talk) 07:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
...according to Bicycle fixation @ www.bicyclefixation.com, "Knickerbockers" is in reference to the Old Dutch in New York centuries ago, when they favored knickers. In England "knickers" (short for "knickerbockers") means ladies' panties, and what we call "knickers" are called "breeks," which is an informal term for "breeches." — Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 20:05, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

New York Knicks?[edit]

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense the bottom panel of the sport team being here, does it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.153.184.60 (talk) 04:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

It should have been explained in the text what "Knicks" means.--Wetman (talk) 16:10, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Petition for merge[edit]

Plus foursKnickerbockers (clothing)[edit]

Plus fours (or plus twos, eights...) are Knickerbockers of different lengths, i would merge — Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 17:38, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Purpose?[edit]

What was Knickerbokers' original purpose? Where they just a fashion trend, or did their differing from slacks somehow make them more appropriate for young boys? Why would anyone design such a billowy pant? 75.148.165.45 (talk) 08:21, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

The baggy design allows for freedom of movement at both the knee and hip joint, hence knickers were/are popular for sports where full leg coverage is called for, either by tradition/dress standards, are for protection. As to the origin, in the 18th and early 19th century, men's fashion called for breeches and stockings and knickiers likely developed out of these. I have heard that during this time, a well developed calf was in demand for men, to the point that some even used a kind of "falsie" to pad out a less than optimally developed calf. Wschart (talk) 12:21, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Fascist pants[edit]

First picture on the right portraits three fascist "avanguardists" (aka youth fascist militia), nothing better to show? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.37.202.20 (talk) 12:51, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Reference[edit]

Could we have an exact reference showing that Knockerbocker wore knee-breeches in the books rather than just in the illustrations by George Cruickshank. In fact, a GC illustration from the book wouldn't be out of place. Wodorabe (talk) 15:30, 15 August 2015 (UTC)