Talk:Koliada
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Koliada as "slaughter"
[edit]Slavic Koliada or Koledo has 0 to do with Jewish tradition, because old slavs never celebrated jewish festivals. Koledo was god of time, another name of december. And because there is no source for this "speculation". I have removed this claim without any source.
Merge all closely related articles about similar Slavic festivals
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- Closing discussion as No consensus to merge at this time. Thanks to participants for their thoughts.Ajpolino (talk) 23:03, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
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It has been suggested that Korochun, Kolyadka and Koledari be merged into this article. (Discuss) Proposed since November 2013.
however, I found no discussion on this page - so let's go!
- Support merge, since these festivals form a shared tradition with local variations, which would be simpler for readers to access and understand in a single article. yoyo (talk) 05:54, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- I disagree. See InterWiki. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 15:00, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- oppose as being like merging "carol" into Christmas. Kolyadki are songs which need their own article, not just merged into some other article based on etymology. Mangoe (talk) 23:41, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
Samples of music
[edit]The article would be better if it were to include samples of music, preferably both in audio and notated form. If you have, or can gain, access to such materials, please add them under a suitable Creative Commons (e.g. CC-BY-SA) license. I could probably notate any audio samples you make available. yoyo (talk) 05:54, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Withdrawn
- Merge . Reason:
- From article:
"Koledari are Slavic traditional performers of a ceremony called Koliada."
- The article "Koledari" basically describes what koledari do, i.e., it described the ceremony itself, i.e., the Koliada. While, surprizingly, "Koliada" does not have any description at all, and consists only of section "Terminology", i.e., basically a dicdef. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:02, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- It does not matter because of article about holiday historically is more important than article about custom (or performers) so article about holiday should be described as first. In sense: Koliada cover Koledari but Koledari does not cover Koliada. Article Koliada currently only describe terminology which evoluated into name of christmas in Lithuania or Latvia while article Korochun describe terminology which evoluated into name of christmasa in Hungary and Romania. We should have one article about "acient slavic day at 25 december" so I would rather megre Korochun with Koliada. Article about slavic type of Wassailing should be described in other article than article about slavic type of Saturnalia. Dawid2009 (talk) 21:17, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Koliada it is not only synonym of "Kolędowanie". Read more aboiut it here: [1] Dawid2009 (talk) 21:36, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- It does not matter because of article about holiday historically is more important than article about custom (or performers) so article about holiday should be described as first. In sense: Koliada cover Koledari but Koledari does not cover Koliada. Article Koliada currently only describe terminology which evoluated into name of christmas in Lithuania or Latvia while article Korochun describe terminology which evoluated into name of christmasa in Hungary and Romania. We should have one article about "acient slavic day at 25 december" so I would rather megre Korochun with Koliada. Article about slavic type of Wassailing should be described in other article than article about slavic type of Saturnalia. Dawid2009 (talk) 21:17, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
OK. I ma withdrawing. I got confused with article titles. "Koledari" (people) must be renamed to "Koledovanie" (custom) - the same level of abstraction with Kolyada. Staszek Lem (talk) 21:16, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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