Talk:Lafayette Morehouse

Page creation

I am attempting to add the required content to this page. Zoticogrillo (talk) 07:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, but make sure it's not a copyright violation. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 07:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I fully understand the concen. I'm trying to create this article according to policies of which I am fully aware, but every time I make a staged-edit, someone puts some warning on the page or erases it, which requires other edits on talk page, requests to administrators, etc. etc. My my, how erase happy this community is!!! What about assuming goodwill? :P Zoticogrillo (talk) 07:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh, indeed, I can't speak to the contrary there. Very nice article though. :) Have you considered putting it on the DYK suggestions page? It can then be selected to appear on the Main Page, where it will gather interest. Maybe you know about DYK, but just in case you didn't. :D Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 13:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Great suggestion, thanks so much. I'm going to be doing more edits after I finish my library research on the subject. I also wish I could find a picture I could post... I'm trying to get permissions, because there's nothing in public domain. Zoticogrillo (talk) 21:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello Peter. I am a current and active member in the Lafayette Morehouse community. Over the next several weeks I will be correcting some of the content in this article and adding new content and pictures with permission from the community. I am hoping that I will be able to work with you and the other editors to create a piece that is current, accurate, and balanced. Thanks in advance for your assistance. (Moreoceana (talk) 23:58, 18 February 2009 (UTC))

Additional content including Victor Baranco bio

Hey Zoti I am quite new at this so pardon any missed formalities in this post :). I was very pleased to see your recent article. I would also be curious to know the source of your interest in Morehouse Mbeneteau (talk) 22:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm kind of embarrassed to admit that I grew up in Moraga, which is next to Lafayette. The purple people were legendary to the teens in the Lamorinda area. When I learned more about them (recently), I thought I could contribute to sanity by dispelling some myths with info. Not that I'm assuming it's possible to cure bigotry in Lamorinda... I'd be delighted if we could add whatever info you have to the article. Zoticogrillo (talk) 04:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, Mbeneteau, it would be great if you could get us a picture that hasn't been copyrighted, or for which the author has given permission. Zoticogrillo (talk) 04:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey Zoti that's as good a motive as any :). Why don't you write directly to registrar@lafmore.com and ask them for whatever you need. They are very good people and doing some very powerful world-changing work, although they would not necessarily describe themselves in that light. PS: I'm delighted my post made it in correctly and your response. Mbeneteau (talk) 14:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Zoti, I am sorry, it has come to the my attention that some of the information I had previously posted to this thread may be copyright, so I deleted it. I need to first contact Lafayette Morehouse directly to ask them about this, and I suggest that you do the same, I am sure you will find them very helpful. We'll continue this conversation shortly. Mbeneteau (talk) 17:21, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

If you know them, maybe your personal contact would be more effective. I've already contacted them regarding this article, and I didn't receive a response. Zoticogrillo (talk) 22:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok Zoti let me see what I can do. Nice to chat you. Mbeneteau (talk) 23:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

references & notes

i have separated this into 2 sections, changed original to just "References" & added an "External links" section, since many of these were external links and neither referenences nor notes. I'm parking one of the refs below, since blogs are generally not used as references.

(Some accounts of this exist on personal websites and blogs such as these: http://claycord.blogspot.com/2007/07/purple-people-in-nut-creek.html http://reverendpujo.blogspot.com/2005/08/purple-people-madness.html)

I also want to point out that some of the language seems promotional: "most famous product", "Because of the conflict between this group's lifestyle..." (whole para) please be aware of Wikipedia policy in this area WP:SOAP. [sorry i am late in signing this, was actually entered some time ago] David Woodward (talk) 14:51, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

diminutive

re the term diminutive in the lead "a diminuitive term derived for the community's characteristic use of the color purple", perhaps would "derogatory" be more accurate? David Woodward (talk) 14:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

sexual freedom league

I've googled ("vic baranco" and 'sexual freedom league' and "victor baranco" and "sexual freedom league", etc.) and found all the hits eventually lead back to the one cited reference [2] Billingsly, KL, which cites no source for the assertion that Baranco was a member of the sexual freedom league. Members of the morehouse community state that Baranco was never a member of the sexual freedom league. What is the best way to document this given that there are no other secondary sources? --80 Guy (George) (talk) 23:45, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Additional information on Victor Baranco including impact and past students

Hey y'all Wikipedia studs, I have updated my article on Victor Baranco here: http://manifesting.net/lafayette-morehouse/ , feel free to link or to pull in anything that seems relevant... Mbeneteau (talk) 14:57, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Bias

I feel this article has a bias in favor of Morehouse. Sonicsuns (talk) 07:52, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

it does have a fairly vigorous "Criticisms" section (please see WP:CRIT for detailed essay about how this works in Wikipedia) which is nearly half the current article in length. Not many published references currently available apart from blogs. There are multiple hits if you search rickross.com; but these are mostly on forums, so i don't know if they would be deemed suitable references, remembering that "negative criticism must be attributable to a reliable, published source, and not contain any original research" (wp:crit essay). David Felton's book might be a good source of additional material, having only been quoted from a secondary source thus far. David Woodward ☮ ♡♢☞☽ 08:07, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

I agree that this article is biased, but I can't tell in which direction. Basically, it lacks relevant encyclopedic information about this group. For example, are they allegedly a sex cult? A university? A marginal group of harmless communitarians? Why are there so many sex references? After reading this article, it is really not clear. I am going to look for mainstream newspaper descriptions of Morehouse that more usefully explain what this group is. Aroundthewayboy (talk) 13:52, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

"Recognized"?

In the lede the third sentence of the second paragraph states "Victor Baranco recognized that to sustain a cohesive group it was imperative to handle communication, sensuality, and decision-making." (emphasis added) This is inappropriate for an encyclopedia. First, because what a person may "recognize" is only known to the individual themselves, and considering Victor Baranco died in 2002, and this isn't an autobiography, it is conjecture to assert what someone "recognized". Second, to "recognize" something is to apprehend something objectively factual, and there is no such established objective fact as "it is imperative to handle communication, sensuality, and decision-making." Indeed, all three of those are subjective and ambiguous, negating anything being "imperative" about them. This sentence should be rewritten, or struck. Bricology (talk) 06:00, 3 July 2023 (UTC)