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List of DYK Hooks by Date
Date # of Hooks # Verified
May 4
May 13 1
May 23 1
May 26 1
June 7 1
June 12 1
June 13 1
June 14 3
June 15 1
June 16 3
June 17 1 1
June 19 2
June 21 1
June 22 3
June 24 1
June 25 1
June 27 1
June 28 2 1
June 29
June 30 1
July 1 6 3
July 2 17 4
July 3 3 2
July 4 4 2
July 5 3 1
July 6 5 2
July 7 8 2
July 8 4
July 9 11 6
July 10 7 2
July 11 10 1
July 12 9 3
July 13 4 1
July 14 10 5
July 15 11 6
July 16 13 4
July 17 7 4
July 18 7 4
July 19 12 4
July 20 15 3
July 21 6 2
July 22 4 2
July 23 3
Total 205 65
Last updated 08:52, July 23, 2016 (UTC)
Current time is 08:57, 23 July 2016 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines
Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.

For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.

I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.
Post at Template talk:Did you know.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began, not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Consider adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} to the article's talk page (without a section heading—​​the template adds a section heading automatically).

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]

Backlogged?[edit]

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the hook you submitted to this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is in the queue for display on the main page. You can check whether your hook has been moved to the queue by reviewing the queue listings.

If your hook is not in the queue or already on the main page, it has probably been deleted. Deletion occurs if the hook is more than about eight days old and has unresolved issues for which any discussion has gone stale. If you think your hook has been unfairly deleted, you can query its deletion on the discussion page, but as a general rule deleted hooks will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there is usually a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Leave a comment explaining that the hook was removed from the queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
    • If the day title for the section that contained the hook has been removed from this page, restore that section.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
  • Add a link to the nomination subpage at Wikipedia:Did you know/Removed

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on May 4[edit]

Articles created/expanded on May 13[edit]

Shriya Pilgaonkar

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by 991joseph (talk) and Gouravbhosale (talk). Nominated by Mr. Smart LION (talk) at 05:55, 13 May 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The source say nothing about "winning a scholarship" to Harvard, just that she did a summer-course there. As for ALT1: to me, it looks as if she won one award, but two sources name the award differently? ALT2 seem correct, though not very relevant (it is not swimming which has made her known). Article length is ok. Huldra (talk) 21:19, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks for editing the hooks, User:Mr. Smart LION, but the problem is in the article: there are things there which I cannot find in the quoted sources. Like the scholarship, like two prizes. Those things were put there by new editor Gouravbhosale (who probably also should be mentioned among the DYKmakes), and must be cleaned up before this article can be promoted, IMO; Huldra (talk) 08:37, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
  • OK, leave the first two hooks. What about the third and last hook? I think the article also meets the criteria for a GAN. What do you think? Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 13:34, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
  • User:Mr. Smart LION: I´m sorry, but I´m not ready to accept this for DYK, as long as there is clearly unsourced statements in the article! And those unsourced statements are clearly "promotional". (Even if those unsourced statements are not in the hook.) The article simply has to be cleaned up, first! And I am not so familiar with the GAN-procedure, but the GANs I have been involved in, have been far, far longer than this. Huldra (talk) 14:03, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── *The third hook IS clearly cited with this reliable source. I don't know how you are saying that it's unsourced. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 15:08, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

  • User:Mr. Smart LION, yes, but the article still states that she was at Harvard on a scholarship, etc, (which simply is not in any of the sources I read.) Again: the article *must* be cleaned up, and these promotional, unsourced statements removed. Huldra (talk) 15:47, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Now I have added a reliable source stating about her Harvard on a scholarship. It's stated in that source. Now what you have to say? Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 18:02, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
  • I've removed both the links from Maharashtra State Film Awards because her name is not mentioned in it. So I have removed the first link also, while on the Mumbai Film Festival article, a merge tag has been placed. Will it be OK to have a link. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 04:00, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
  • It is perfectly ok to link to Maharashtra State Film Awards, even if she is not mentioned in it. (As long as we have another RS which links her to it, and we do). (She is not mentioned in the Mumbai-article. either, but we still link to it!) And it is ok, for the same reason, to link to Mumbai Film Festival (that it has a merge-tag is irrelevant.) I´m still not happy about the sentence "was awarded with the Best Debut Actress award and Most Promising Newcomer Award." It sounds as if she won TWO awards, while, from what I understand, she only won ONE award? It looks as if the award is (formally) called "Best Debut Actress" ...perhaps change the sentence into "was found to be the most promising female newcomer and won the Best Debut Actress award"? Huldra (talk) 23:05, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yes check.svg Done Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 05:10, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Ok, all issues looks resolved; I say good to go, (with original hook: "...In 2012, Shriya Pilgaonkar won a scholarship to do a summer course in screenplay adaptation at Harvard University?") Huldra (talk) 08:09, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The article was at AFD and this revision shows that it was not an unsourced BLP. This 2x expansion is invalid. It needs 5x expansion for the eligibility. - Vivvt (Talk) 06:45, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────But after nominating the article for deletion, the article was redirected to Fan (film). This means that the Shriya Pilgaonkar page did not existed as an article. But on 8 May 2016, the page became as an article. If the page existed as an article when I had created the page on Shriya Pilgaonkar, then the article required 5x expansion. Because the page became an article on 8 May 2016, the article doesn't need 5x expansion. It's like a new article. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 12:52, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Quoting a DYK rule Former redirects, stubs, and other articles in which the prose portion has been expanded fivefold or more within the past seven days are also acceptable as "new" articles. - Vivvt (Talk) 17:17, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
Is this rule written somewhere on Wikipedia? How can you proof it? Now it's impossible to expand the article 5x. No more information of her is now available. The article is already been expanded. If you'll proof me where this rule is written on Wikipedia, you can reject this DYK. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 17:58, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
I counted this as an expansion, starting from the 10 March, 2016-version (which was basically a redirect), and as such this article fulfilled the requirements. Except for some minutes in January, this article has been nothing but a redir since May 2015, Huldra (talk) 20:17, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
See 1b here. - Vivvt (Talk) 03:54, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── OK, it's fine now. You can reject this DYK! Expanding the article for 5x more is impossible because no more information is available. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 08:58, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg For not satisfying the criteria for the expansion. - Vivvt (Talk) 14:16, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
But please don't close the discussion. The article has been nominated for GA. Wait until that discussion is closed. If the article gets seccussful in getting a GA icon, then it would be OK to go within 7 days. Now don't say that this rule is not written in Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 17:49, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Will finish the review soon and then we can come back to this DYK, if required. - Vivvt (Talk) 17:59, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Superseding the above icon with this one to prevent premature closure, since the GA review has already been started. Vivvt, I think it's great that you've taken on reviewing the GA nomination. However, you won't be eligible to also review this nomination assuming you list the article at GA (see WP:DYKSG#H2), so in that case a new reviewer will have to be found. If the article does not succeed at GA, though, you can reinstate your X icon here. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:51, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Unfortunately, the article is not GA worthy. - Vivvt (Talk) 09:33, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Vivvt, I just ran DYKcheck on the article, and it is a very clear 5x expansion. DYKcheck says so, and the largest the article ever was in any of its previous incarnations was 703 prose characters, which would require an expansion to 3515 prose characters; the article is currently 5967 prose characters, an expansion of over 8x. But even if it hadn't been, a gap of over a year—even several months—means that the article is effectively new; this is what I've always been taught by DYK vets (and now I'm one myself). Any material reused from previous versions of the article would need to be expanded 5x (I didn't see any in this case), but otherwise the normal requirements for a new article (which includes articles replacing redirects) would apply. I'm sorry I didn't check this more closely earlier. At this point, I think the article needs a new full review—there has been a major expansion since the last tick was given, and most of what's there is new. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:18, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I have nothing against the article or the nominator but if you look at the content thats been added to the article for its expansion, you'll know thats its of a poor quality. Its one of the reasons, I had to fail the GA. If you or another reviewer is okay to get it to main page, then I'll leave upto you guys. - Vivvt (Talk) 04:48, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review still needed. Reviewer should consider the quality of the expansion in their review (note comments by Vivvt above based on the GA review). Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:03, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I haven't even been through the whole article, but I've already found serious issues with this nomination. Basic things check out; it's new enough, long enough, QPQ done, and copyvio free as far as I can tell. However, there are serious verifiability issues. The first hook is not supported by the cite; it says she went to Harvard for a summer school, but it didn't say anything about a scholarship. None of the sources says she enjoys kathak; one of them says she has "early training" in kathak, meaning that she learned it as a child, nothing more. I removed another entirely unsourced sentence. The article is mostly neutrally written, but carries far too many quotes from the subject (which can be a means of promotion). There are also a whole bunch of redundancies; most of the information is in the article twice, including what she's directed and her first few films. I found multiple close paraphrases, which I've taken care of for now, but you'll need to watch out for this as you fix the issues I've raised. Finally, the original hook fails verification, the second is rather boring, and the third is incomprehensible (although personally I think the fact used in the third is most interesting). User:Mr. Smart LION, please address these issues soon; this has been in the list for a long while already. Vanamonde93 (talk) 10:27, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done As for the quotes, I would like to say that all quotes are OK, because they seem interesting and removing them will make the article too short. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 07:14, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
The bit about swimming is still not supported by the source immediately after it; you need to duplicate another source, or move the content around. You also need to change ALT2 to be grammatical: if I did it myself, this would need another reviewer, and I think it has gone on for long enough already. Vanamonde93 (talk) 07:36, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
I moved the content about swimming to correct position and as for changing ALT2 to grammatical, it needs help from an editor whose English grammar is excellent. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 09:01, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Okay, then. I'm proposing ALT3, which would need a new reviewer. Vanamonde93 (talk) 09:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
  • ALT3 ...that actress Shriya Pilgaonkar trained to become a professional swimmer as a child, and won several medals?
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I'm afraid this reads more like a magazine article than a encyclopedia, with the still-excessive use of quotes, and the remaining repetition. Rather than the article telling the story, it has Shriya tell her own story, which is not appropriate. Since Mr. Smart LION did not feel confident enough in his own English grammar to modify the hook, it's not surprising that there are still some problematic sentences in the article; I'd recommend requesting a Guild of Copy Editors copyedit of the entire article. When the request is made, mention that as part of the copyedit they should also trim the number and size of the quotations. Once the article is in better shape we can request a new reviewer for ALT3. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:29, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I've added the entry of the article in the list Guild of Copy Editors. Mr. Smart ℒION☎️⋡ 04:49, 23 July 2016 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on May 23[edit]

John Crane (government official)

Created by Evolauxia (talk) and Cgingold (talk). Nominated by Cgingold (talk) at 16:59, May 30, 2016‎ (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Evolauxia: @Cgingold: This article is new enough and long enough. However neither of the hooks proposed will do because they each contain more information than is included in the article. You will need to either propose some more mundane hook mentioning only facts contained in the article, or expand the article a little to include the interesting facts you mention in your proposed hooks. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:53, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I have struck the original hook because at 209 characters, it's above the 200 maximum allowed for DYK. ALT1 is 194 characters, and I'm not sure why there are brackets in the "[a]"—they should almost certainly be eliminated. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:38, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Cwmhiraeth, were the edits by Evolauxia on June 2 sufficient to address the issues you raised, or is more work needed here? Evolauxia, in the absence of Cgingold, it's important for you to post here when you have made edits to fix issues raised here so we know to proceed with the review. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:41, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset: Well, yes, but the evidence comes from an interview given by John Crane rather than a third party source. It is repeated in the article on the grandfather, Günther Rüdel, but that information was added by Evolauxia this month. Under the present aura of blame and recrimination, I think I will let someone else decide if that is a reliable source. If not, we need a new hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:43, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Need a new reviewer to decide on whether the source is appropriate (and reliable enough) for the ALT1 hook, and who can decide what to do with the "[a]" since brackets are not allowed. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:34, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg This is not there yet, I'm afraid. Most things are okay; new enough, long enough, and neutral. No copyvios that I can find. However, there are two issues. First, a number of unsourced statements in the article. Especially considering this is a BLP, that is problematic. Second, I am not satisfied with the source for the hook. It's good enough to be in the article, perhaps; but the guardian article is not really reporting this in its own words; it is reporting from the affidavit written by the grandfather. We could do something like "Crane drew inspiration from a story he heard about his grandfather..." but that would be rather clunky, and less interesting. I'd be happy to hang around this review page and see this through, but some substantial work is required first. Vanamonde93 (talk) 09:51, 18 July 2016 (UTC)









Articles created/expanded on May 26[edit]

List of public art in the City of Sydney

Echidna, platypus and goanna in the Tank Stream Fountain
Echidna, platypus and goanna in the Tank Stream Fountain
  • ... that the public art in Sydney includes sculptures of a boar as well as brolgas, echidnas, goannas and snakes? (pictured)?
  • Reviewed: Gibbs surround
  • Comment: Would like the article to be on the main page on 25 June

Created by Whiteghost.ink (talk). Self-nominated at 06:21, 26 May 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Umm, under which DYK eligibility criteria is this nominated? As far as I can tell it's not new (it has been expanded steadily for months), and it's not a new GA/GL. Am I missing something here? (If you reply to me, please echo me back). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:12, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
  • It was created in my sandbox and moved to mainspace today. The DYK eligibility criteria state: "d) Articles that have been worked on exclusively in a user or user talk subpage or at articles for creation or in the Draft namespace and then moved (or in some cases pasted) to the article mainspace are considered new as of the date they reach the mainspace." Hence the article is new from today. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 08:26, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg And I thought I checked for that, must have mistyped something in my search box I guess. All right, date is fine, hook, refs, neutrality, all GTG. I'd suggest minor rewording of the hook for better prose, however, something like "that the public art in Sydney includes sculptures of a boar as well as brolgas, echidnas, goannas and snakes? (pictured)? (I cannot propose it as ALT1 as my past experience shows that this would disqualify me from the review, sigh, so if you like it and suggest it as ALT1 yourself then I can approve the alt too :> --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:09, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Artwork (2004)
Artwork (2004)
  • ALT2: here's my suggestion for a hook, with what I think is a more easily viewable artwork at the small size the images have to be for DYK. Wittylama 12:30, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
  • ... that one of the public artworks in the City of Sydney is a sign (pictured) warning about one of the other artworks?
Symbol confirmed.svg Approved as well, and frankly, likely more interesting: statuses of animals are common enough (and the picture of the sign is more eye-catching). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:43, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Many of the sections and entries are unsourced. Per WP:DYKSG#D2, the rule of thumb is "one inline citation per paragraph, excluding the intro". Intelligentsium 21:12, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
  • The prose paragraphs at the beginning are introduction and (as far as I'm aware) every statement of fact within them is referenced in the individual line item of the table below to which it refers. I've taken the liberty to rearrange the section headings to indicate this more clearly (diff). Wittylama 16:11, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Hi, thanks for the edits. As the introductory prose sections are rather lengthy, it would be nice to have some citations as well - especially to ensure that the summary is verifiable and does not contain any original synthesis (for instance, claims like "Recurring themes include flora, children and classical or abstract allusion" and "Some (such as The Offerings of Peace and The Offerings of War) employ classical references to convey an abstract meaning; others (such as Research) use abstracted forms to convey an idea.") There seem to be a few entries in the table that lack citations, such as Willy Willy, Wave Machine, and New Constellation. Also, a few of the works appear to be inside buildings - can you comment on whether the photographs are in compliance with Australia's freedom of panorama laws? Intelligentsium 02:30, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Intelligentsium: Because this nomination has been approved by both Piotrus (above) and Hawkeye7 (diff), and that these comments are about suggested improvements rather than meeting minimum standards for DYK - can I suggest that you write these on the article talkpage instead and they can be discussed/addressed in the normal wiki-way. Wittylama 16:02, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
  • The DYK requirements state that the article must be within policy. The table entries should have citations per Verifiability, and analysis such as "Some (such as The Offerings of Peace and The Offerings of War) employ classical references to convey an abstract meaning; others (such as Research) use abstracted forms to convey an idea." needs to be cited to conform to No original research. I don't consider the image issue an obstacle as I doubt there is a copyright violation since FOP laws are fairly lax, but just to make sure I've posted to the article talk. Intelligentsium 22:29, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I've taken a second look. It is true that the introduction and 10% or so of the entries are unreferenced. I still think this is borderline, but yes, it would be very helpful to see citations for "Summary" and to ensure that each entry has a reference. An example of an unreferenced entry would be "John Christie Wright Memorial Fountain". They are few, so I missed them last time. Thank you for the second and third opinions. Ping if if those issues are addressed, or reasons are provided why they cannot be. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:14, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
1) With regards to citations in the Summary section:
My understanding of the lead/introduction section is that it should summarise information that is presented below (which is why the policy is that the intro doesn’t need footnotes). Therefore, all of the statements in the summary are rephrasing things that are said about the artworks in the comments below, and also that each of the statements in the summary lists the specific artwork where that statement is referenced. You have specifically referred to “The Offerings of Peace" and "The Offerings of War”, and “Research” so I have just now improved the comment section of both of those to state more explicitly what is summarised above and I have also improved the quality of their footnotes. Furthermore, I have removed the "Summary" section heading to make it more clear that this text is intended to be part of the lead - summarising the whole article's contents.
2) With regards to the as-yet-uncited artworks in the table:
Wikipedia’s Verifiability policy is that “All content must be ‘’verifiable’’”. Only BLPs have the higher standard that statements ought to be "verified" immediately. Since all of the items currently missing a reference do at least have a photograph (and many also have a geocode), the artwork demonstrably "exists" and the statements in the comment column are able to be verified, even when they are not yet verified. So, since this is a DYK nomination, not a Good Article review, I believe that this list with over 150 footnotes to historical and contemporary sources is well above the standard for proving Verifiability, not only for the list as a whole and also for the individual works in the list. By my count there are currently only nine eight items on this list of 123 artworks that have as yet no footnote. You must agree this is a very small, and decreasing, proportion.
Notwithstanding all the above, I am of course trying to add footnotes to all of the items. For example, I have added two references for the “John Christie Wright Memorial Fountain” which you mentioned. Some references are more elusive than others but I am steadily decreasing the number of un-cited entries (check the article history). Whiteghost.ink (talk) 15:22, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Note: I've just found refs for three more of the previously un-ref'd ones, bringing the total number of works missing a footnote down to 5 (diff). Wittylama 17:52, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Only two artworks without inline citations. Will keep working on them. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 20:11, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
  • @Hawkeye7: I think the concerns have now been well enough addressed to allow the article to appear as DYK on the day requested. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 12:15, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
    • Symbol possible vote.svg @Whiteghost.ink: Two (non-critical) entries in the table without citations is not a deal-breaker; if you wanted to continue the review you should have pinged me. I assumed you were still working on the last two. I'm more concerned that several descriptions in the table seem to be almost-verbatim lifted from sources without being quoted, or only partially being quoted, for example:
      • Southern Cross: "Inspired by one of the earliest known images of the constellation, a wood engraving in the rare manuscript Lettera di Andrea Corsali made in Florence in 1516"
      • Source: "inspired by one of the earliest known images of the Southern Cross: a wood engraving in the rare manuscript Lettera di Andrea Corsali, made in Florence in 1516"
      • #Twenty-first century: "Tom Bass described himself as a maker of totems – symbolic, widely recognisable forms that embody social, cultural and spiritual meanings for a community – for a city, a corporate client or humanity in general"
      • Source: "The artist habitually describes himself as a maker of totems - symbolic, widely recognisable forms that embody social, cultural and spiritual meanings for a community - for a city, a corporate client or humanity in general" (is this meant to be a quote? Note that this isn't a quote from the artist in the source so using quotes would also be misleading)
      • P&O Fountain: "A wall sculpture that was satirised by a notorious Oz magazine cover, that nevertheless "enjoys a kind of celebrity status as a landmark.""
      • Source: "his wall fountain on Hunter Street, satirised as a urinal by a notorious Oz magazine cover in 1963, enjoys a kind of celebrity status as a landmark."
      • J.F. Archibald Memorial Fountain: "...fountain constructed to commemorate the association between Australia and France in World War I"
      • Source: "...fountain was built in Hyde Park North in 1932 to commemorate the association between Australia and France in World War I."
      • Wurrungwuri: "Sculpture in two parts ... One part is made of 260 sandstone blocks in wave formation and the other part is a monolith built from 16,000 threaded quartz pebbles, decorated with a pattern from a rare Aboriginal shield – the Sydney shield"
      • Source: "Consisting of two parts, one made of 260 sandstone blocks in wave formation and weighing 350 tonnes, ... The other part is a monolith built from 16,000 threaded quartz pebbles and decorated with a pattern from a rare Aboriginal shield - the Sydney shield"
      • Busby's Bore Fountain: "Commemorates the Busby Bore, a tunnel built to bring water from the Lachlan Swamp (now Centennial Park) to Hyde Park. The bore, built by convicts from 1827–1837, was Sydney's sole source of water until 1859"
      • Source: "commemorates the Busby Bore, a tunnel built to bring water from the Lachlan Swamp (now Centennial Park) to Hyde Park ... The bore was Sydney’s sole source of water until 1859"

Intelligentsium 01:31, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

All of the parapharasing noted has now been rewritten or quoted directly. This was a work in progress for such a long list that required photos as well as references and was being done at the same time as geocodes were also being added. Intelligentsium: Detailed assistance is appreciated, but for the purposes of a DYK nomination it is not required that an article be so perfectly complete - even though this is the goal and such improvements will help for reaching Good Article status. You removed it from the prep area after it was approved but did not return it to the queue, so its requested timeslot was lost and the nomination disappeared. Hawkeye7: I would like to now re-add this nomination to the queue and request that it appear on the main page on the afternoon (Sydney time) of Thursday August 4. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 10:23, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I understand that an article does not have to be perfect for DYK, but close paraphrasing is a major issue and potential copyright violation, not something that can be waved away by WP:WIP. The article could not be returned to the queue while this issue was still outstanding. That being said if you would prefer that Hawkeye7 continue this review, I will respect your wishes. Intelligentsium 18:45, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
I am sorry, but Hawkeye7 promoted this nomination at a time when it had a Symbol possible vote.svg icon active. This is not ever supposed to happen, and to my mind disqualifies him from taking any further action on this nomination. We'll need to find a new reviewer to approve it, if you would like someone other than Intelligentsium to proceed, and someone else entirely will eventually do the promotion. Whiteghost.ink, may I ask what the special occasion is that has you requesting August 4 for the promotion date? We're generally happy to allow such requests for special occasions, events, anniversaries, and so on, but not general date requests without such linkage. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:39, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed. The review should include checks on whether previous issues have been fully addressed. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:39, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for requesting a new reviewer BlueMoonset, I understand your reasoning for wanting a new person who has not looked at this article before. As for the requested appearance date of 4th August (afternoon, Sydney time), it is because that is the time that I will be leading a university class in Sydney on writing about aesthetics and the built environment. One of the course requirements is to write a WP article. (The project page is here). It would be motivating and helpful to show the students the article's appearance on the main page during the class, especially since the items on its list are offered as potential articles. I understand that this is not a date of significance to the article itself, so if the request is not acceptable then I am happy for it to appear at any other time. Sincerely, Whiteghost.ink (talk) 11:58, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg In general, an article like this would be judged on its lead section for character count and citations. However, since the citations are all in the chart, each line item is being evaluated for character count, referencing, and all the regular WP criteria. Earwigs does not return any copyvios. However, spot checks are revealing citations that do not align with the information in the article, and information that does not align with the sources. I started going through this and making corrections, but such a job is too big for one reviewer. Yoninah (talk) 18:02, 10 July 2016 (UTC)









Articles created/expanded on June 7[edit]

Pennsylvania Shell ethylene cracker plant

Created/expanded by Jgera5 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:18, 7 June 2016 (UTC).

  • This article was mis-named, cracking produces ethylene which is converted to polyethylene, not ethane. I have moved the page to correct the name and modified the article. I am striking the hook and adding a new one with the correct name. EdChem (talk) 15:22, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed; template has been updated to reflect new article name. BlueMoonset (talk) 12:53, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. The ALT1 hook facts have an inline citation to a newspaper where a subscription is required so I would accept it in good faith. My only concern is that the Shell reference (#1), mentions "up to 6,000 construction workers", which is NOT the same as the 6,000 mentioned in the hook and article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:06, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Three comments: First, the proposed hook about job creation sounds fairly promotional to me, given the well documented opposition to the project from environmentalists. In fact, the article makes no mention of the project's critics. Second, the paragraph that begins "Shell pledged ...." is not supported by citations. Third, I'd like propose a different hook:
I know that the sources do not explicitly state that the plant won't produce crackers in addition to ethylene, but I think it's a fair inference given the fact that sources describe the cracker plant as a a petrochemical plant. I am pinging Jgera5, EdChem, and Cwmhiraeth for input. Let me know what you think. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 08:27, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg I fully approve ALT2 as being in the best tradition of hooky hooks. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:36, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm not going to reverse the tick, but I would point out that the link in ALT2 points to a redirect page. Also, as I was pinged and there has been more than a little discussion lately, I invite the thoughts of user:The Rambling Man and Fram to provide input here before it gets to the queues, if either has concerns. Thanks. EdChem (talk) 13:20, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
  • FYI, I fixed the link in ALT2. When I first wrote ALT2, I copied the link from the original hook, but that was written before this page was moved. It should now direct readers to the article without passing through a redirect. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 16:00, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Still waiting for the second paragraph in the "Shell involvement" section to be cited as it needs to be. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:25, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I am giving Jgera5 another few days to respond to the issues raised here, with a third note to his or her talk page. I hope to see some action by then. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:38, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset: I've added a reference, see what you think. Not my article, but a quick search found something appropriate, IMO.  :) EdChem (talk) 08:04, 23 July 2016 (UTC)







Articles created/expanded on June 12[edit]

Karak Revolt

  • ... that the demographic and economic recovery of Al-Karak, was further undermined by the Ottoman Empire's brutal suppression of the 1910 Karak Revolt?

Created by Makeandtoss (talk). Self-nominated at 23:32, 11 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The citation does not specify Transjordan, but simply says "the region", which as far as I can make out seems to mean the Karak plateau, and no direct equivalency seems to be given between the Karak plateau and Transjordan. It seems that a more comprehensive or useful citation (or additional citation), if you can find it, might be the one that citation gives, which is Frontiers of the State in the Late Ottoman Empire: Transjordan, 1850-1921, by Eugene L. Rogan (Cambridge University Press, 1999). Softlavender (talk) 08:28, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
I read that source, I don't think it has what we are searching for but here's an alternative hook: that the 1910 Karak Revolt revealed the true limits of Ottoman rule in Transjordan?
The Rogan source is what the source sentence that you reference cites. If anything can establish that what is being referred to is actually Transjordan it would be that. In terms of your alternate proposal, it is vague and rather meaningless, and the citation doesn't say "true". In my opinion it's not a sufficiently informative hook as it's too vague. Plus the rest of that sentence in the wiki article is confusing and doesn't seem to follow either grammatically or logically. I'm also noticing some other issues with the article. I personally think the article needs some work re: accuracy, citing, grammar, and logic before coming to DYK. Softlavender (talk) 12:59, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Fixed issues, going with the original hook. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:36, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg As mentioned before, the citation does not substantiate. The Karak plateau is only a small part of Transjordan [1]. Moreover, there are many other problems with this article, including multiple citations that do not substantiate. Do not remove the {{not in citation}} tags unless those issues are actually fixed. There are probably other citations that do not substantiate, but I don't have the time to check nor the faith that this article has been accurately cited. In addition, there are other problems: logic, punctuation, grammar, word-flow, and what seems to possibly be original research or synthesis. Softlavender (talk) 05:58, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
The revolt spread to Tafila, Ma'an and other towns, but since the source doesn't specify, I'll go with Al-Karak. The claim relating to Arab Revolt is supported by citation in page 20. I can't seem to find anything terribly wrong with the article. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:38, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
If you are citing page 20, your links need to go to page 20. Page 214 neither says nor implies anything about the revolt of 1916. And page 20 does not mention any Karak participation in the revolt of 1916. So the citation fails on both counts (both pages). This kind of misinformation and misinterpretation of sources is troubling, and if there is more in this wiki article, then that is a major problem. The fact that you have continued to maintain that it and/or your citations are accurate compounds the problem in my mind. Softlavender (talk) 11:11, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
@Softlavender: "the Karak Revolt became an Arabist cause, and in some ways a precursor to the later Arab Revolt of 1916" page 20 ?????? Makeandtoss (talk) 11:18, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Exactly. Says nothing about Karakis participating in or supporting the 1916 revolt, which is what the wiki article refers to: "The imprisonment of hundreds of people and the execution of ten revolt leaders in the aftermath of the revolt, had greatly angered the Karakis, and is thought to have contributed to their support of the 1916 Great Arab Revolt" [2] and "The execution of the revolt leaders had greatly angered the locals and is thought to have contributed to their support of the 1916 Great Arab Revolt" [3]. No substantiation. Softlavender (talk) 11:29, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @Softlavender: Their support, not necessarily involvement. "Arabist cause", "cause"=something you support.. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:39, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Again, the citation says nothing about Karakis supporting the 1916 revolt. I'm not interested in pursuing this discussion further, as you seem not to understand how substantiating article content works. Please do not ping me; I am taking this DYK off of my watch list. Softlavender (talk) 11:44, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
@Softlavender: Just added a source specifically making the claim, you can continue the review if you want. If not, thank you for taking the time already. Makeandtoss (talk) 12:13, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed. Issues raised by initial reviewer should be rechecked. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:13, 27 June 2016 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on June 13[edit]

Morteza Avini

Morteza Avini
Morteza Avini

5x expanded by Mhhossein (talk). Nominated by Mhhossein (talk) at 13:56, 20 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Prose size (text only): 6984 characters (1165 words) "readable prose size"; 5x expansion by Mhhossein since 13 June 2016 (when it was 896); English inline citations appear OK, however many are in Persian (I cannot check). Image seems appropriate (although not necessary) and free of copyvio. The prose is rfeadable if not good. However, my main concern is that the article is not balanced and objective and therefore violates the NPOV criterion. For example, in the book cited in the Talattof reference 6, there is a section dealing with criticism of Avini - for example on page 182 it talks about Behnoud's accusations that Avini had been a drug addict. If there was debate and criticism about Avini, it should be included. The current article reads a bit like a "life of the saint" (or in this case, "Martyr"). The hook can be imnproved - a suggestionm is ALT: 2. This is my first review.
  • ALT2: ...that Iranian filmmaker Morteza Avini, who was blown up by a landmine in 1993, was named "the master of martyred literati" by supreme leader of Iran Ayatollah Ali Khamenei?
Byronmercury (talk) 15:13, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Looking at a first review, as requested, I changed the symbol to the neutral question mark (from the "rather not" slash which was possibly not intended, - revert if it was). I also moved ALT2 to the post of the reviewer, because yes it's mentioned, but better to also see who worded it. It is a subset of ALT1, so doesn't require a different reviewer. I also added (pictured), we can't expect a prep-builder to take it over from a different hook when promoting ALT2. I will look at the review now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:42, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
I read and made minor changes in formatting (repeat last name every new section, let image look "into" the text, link the first time, combine short sections). I think the article should go through copyediting, - a phrase such as "By the Islamic revolution of Iran, he joined cinema and started his artistic career" seems unclear. You could request that at WP:GOCE, let's have a look again afterwards. There's no rush to meet a certain date. As for POV: this is just DYK, not GA or FA, completeness is not required. The article should of course always say "is regarded as a martyr" (and by whom), not "is a martyr". Mhhossein, could you please make sure that is followed? (I have no time to read every line.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you Byronmercury and Gerda Arendt for the review and for the raised points. I checked the article and there's no such thing as "is a martyr" and it's emphasized that he was entitled and regarded as martyr. I'll make a request at WP:GOCE and will let you know when ever the case is addressed by them. Mhhossein (talk) 17:26, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, I have restored Byronmercury's original icon above, as it was correct. NPOV is a very important DYK criterion and should never be ignored; this isn't an issue of completeness but of balance, and sufficiently serious that the "?" icon is not appropriate since it isn't a simple fix. Also, many of Mhhossein's DYK nominations have run into NPOV issues, with a number of rounds of edits required before the reviewer has been satisfied. The GOCE copyedit may well not address the neutrality issue, especially if doing so requires finding new sources. Finally, this review did not cover the QPQ requirement, and Mhhossein needs to supply one as he has well over five DYK nominations to his credit. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:29, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
BlueMoonset: I meant to perform a review to cover the QPQ requirement. By the way, those "many DYK nominations," as evidenced, later emerged to be not that problematic as alleged by the reviewers (just see the nomination process of them). You are ignoring the inherent biased approach of some users, when it comes to I-P and middle east articles. As ever, I'm ready to resolve any issue specifically mentioned by the reviewers. Mhhossein (talk) 17:48, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I just took a closer look at the image, which I like a lot, and I'm not sure that the public domain declaration for the photo is valid. It's a photo of a wall painting, and Iran does not, so far as I can tell, allow freedom of panorama, which would mean that the original artist still holds copyright unless it's a very old painting that is itself in the public domain. (I very much doubt that the photo is by the artist, given the other photos uploaded.) Chris Woodrich, could you please comment on whether the image is allowable at DYK? (Even if not, might there be a non-free justification for keeping it in the article?) Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:52, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Definitely still in copyright. A photograph would be better for fair use, as the painting is highly idealized. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:20, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I have removed the image from the nomination. It also seems to me, Chris Woodrich, that as long as the image is in the article, as it is still in copyright, that we cannot promote the nomination, because it would be on the main page with a copyvio image in it. Correct? BlueMoonset (talk) 23:52, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
  • No, because there is no indication who took the underlying photograph (i.e. the object being photographed). Rephotographing something does not grant one copyright over it. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:44, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Better. We just need to see if Tasim created the image; I don't see any credit line. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:23, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I can't open the source for Avini2. The Flickr one seems to be a series of screenshots. If that's the case, the uploader probably doesn't have the right to release it under a free license. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:04, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm afraid, not all those photos on Flickr were screenshots! btw, this's the link to Avini2 and you may also consider this one. Mhhossein (talk) 05:39, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
  • All of those Flickr photos are listed as having been taken in 2002 or later, and Avini died in 1993. The photographer cannot, therefore, be the one who created the original images. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:42, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────* The article underwent a rather comprehensive copy edit. Also, I added some new materials and tried to address the concerns raised by the reviewers. Besides, I found a photo of Avini which is recently uploaded by the photographer Ehsan Rajabi, according to the description page. The photo is also seen on his personal website. --Mhhossein (talk) 12:39, 21 July 2016 (UTC)






Articles created/expanded on June 14[edit]

Up in the Air (song)

Improved to Good Article status by Earthh (talk). Self-nominated at 22:04, 14 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article was promoted to Good Article of June 16. Long enough at over 16,000 characters. Within policy; article has inline citations and is properly sourced. Hook checks out ok; cited in article and under 200 characters. QPQ done. DivaKnockouts 22:22, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Per one of the sources:

"Up in the Air" isn't the first piece of music to make its way beyond Earth's atmosphere. NASA launched the Voyager Golden Record in 1977 aboard both Voyager spacecrafts, which have since exited the solar system. They continue to venture into space and contain a number of international, mostly classical music selections. The time-capsules of sorts also include playback instructions for any extraterrestrials who may happen upon them.

In 2008, NASA beamed the Beatles' "Across the Universe" directly into deep space. Yoko Ono responded with delight at the time, saying the development marked "the beginning of the new age in which we will communicate with billions of planets across the universe."

Hawkeye7 (talk) 03:14, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
@Hawkeye7: I think the Up in the Air record refers to the format of the copy, which in this case was a compact disc. "It was the first commercial copy of music sent to space", that's what multiple sources say.--Earthh (talk) 11:03, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Okay. All good then. Hawkeye7 (talk) 14:33, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Hawkeye7, if you believe this is ready to be promoted, please add a tick below. At the moment, your "?" icon is the latest one. If there are other issues, please let us know what they are. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:44, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Reopened, pulled from prep, discussed at Wt:DYK. So no astronaut ever took a commercial CD with him to the ISS? the source seems a bit lightweight for such a claim (heavy on pop! hype!, not so much on factual accuracy). The Huffington Post article doesn't make this claim (so no multiple sources for this either, at least not in the article). Fram (talk) 09:09, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Adding icon to prevent this from showing up as approved, since it has been pulled from prep. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:02, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Sorry for the long delay, I've been really busy with my exams. Noisecreep, PopCrush, iHeart, and Ultimate Guitar all states that it was the first commercial copy of music sent to space. However, if there isn't any verifiable and objective evidence about this record, I would omit it from both the hook and article. Earthh (talk) 16:36, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Fram, your thoughts on these sources? If you feel they are all inadequate (you've already noted you believed Popcrush was too lightweight), please say so here; in that case, Earthh will have need to adjust the article and supply a new hook. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:31, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
These are obviously not sources competent to makes such a claim. EEng 21:49, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Earthh, please omit it from both the hook and the article; we'll need a new hook here for the nomination to continue. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:48, 17 July 2016 (UTC)



Stay With Me Till Dawn

Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 13:18, 14 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg I don't know of any time limit on draft/sandboxed stuff, and you nominated it within a week of mainspacing it, so I think it passes that part. Article is sourced, neutral, and just long enough. QPQ is done. No copyvio detected. It's a pass. White Arabian Filly Neigh 22:16, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The source does not fully support the hook. The copyright was not returned until 1999, but the source does not state that Rocket Records refused to return it in 1991. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:51, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I think that would work. It seems to be just under the length limit. White Arabian Filly Neigh 21:31, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg No, I'm sorry: that hook is 230 prose characters (the count includes spaces), far over the absolute maximum of 200 characters. Launchballer, you need to come up with a much shorter hook, and White Arabian Filly, I don't think a hook that includes two instances of the phrase "copyright for the song" is an effective hook whatever its length. More important, Cwmhiraeth's point has not been addressed. The big problem with the hook is that I don't see where the sources support the assertion that the reason the song was re-recorded was because of the copyright issue: there are lots of reasons for not re-releasing an earlier song recording on a new album for a new label (which should be spelled "Columbia"). Absent a specific statement in a reliable source that the new version was recorded because of a copyright issue, you can't include this claim, and if you do find such a source, the article itself will need to have specific wording that she couldn't use the original song because Rocket refused to allow the original version to be reused (for which they had the copyright). Finally, basic orthography needs to be correct for both the hook and the article: all song titles must be in quotes with every mention, and album titles have to be in italics, both for hook and article. (And what's this "one-hit wonder" assertion? Do you have any reliable source that refers to her this way, or is this just your opinion, and thus not appropriate here? Her career seems more varied and impressive than that beyond the raw chart numbers.) BlueMoonset (talk) 00:03, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Stay With Me Till Dawn was rated as the thirty-ninth best song to have come out of Britain by a BBC poll? I've added a source for the one-hit wonder remark; Tzuke meets the definition at one-hit wonder. I've also added the orthography and fixed the typo.--Launchballer 00:59, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
  • You may have fixed some of the orthography, but the title of the article—the song title itself—still doesn't have quotes in much of the article or in the hook, and at least one album isn't in italics. Please take more care. (Also, wasn't that BBC poll mentioned in ALT2 for a specific time period? This isn't the thirty-ninth best British song ever, right?) BlueMoonset (talk) 16:16, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
ALT3 ... that "Stay With Me Till Dawn" was rated as the thirty-ninth best song to have come out of Britain in the first fifty years of the UK Singles Chart by the BBC? It probably is the thirty-ninth best British song ever, given the rubbish that comes out of this country nowadays...--Launchballer 16:32, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Alt3 appears acceptable. By the way, I can't get the counter tool to run on mobile, and my own counting skills are terrible, which is why I didn't get that the second hook was over length. (I was trying to count the characters manually.) White Arabian Filly Neigh 21:32, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

The Quickening Maze

Moved to mainspace by Dharmadhyaksha (talk). Self-nominated at 11:22, 14 June 2016 (UTC).

  • "Did you know that (event) DOES NOT HAPPEN in this novel?" This is an awful formulation, sorry. DS (talk) 20:56, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
@DragonflySixtyseven: Not sure what you exactly mean? Are you saying we rephrase the hook or change it completely to something else? If former, please suggest. If later, I see no reason why it should not be the hook. The meeting of the two great poets has been speculated since long throughout the history and we know nothing for sure if they met or not. Almost all reviews of the book also mention this.[4],[5], [6], [7]. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:39, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
At the very least, a rephrase: I own hundreds of novels in which Clare and Tennyson never meet. DS (talk) 13:31, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Please suggest a rephrase. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:20, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
I just don't see one, sorry. DS (talk) 13:41, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 17:08, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg No, I'm sorry, what's needed here is a new hook. I've struck the original one; the reviewer was correct. I'd suggest you find a completely different hook, because "there's been speculation about whether it happened in real life, but it didn't happen in this particular work of historical fiction" is not an interesting hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:54, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Adam Foulds' novel The Quickening Maze, about poets Clare and Tennyson, was nominated for the Man Booker and Walter Scott prizes but lost both to Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall?
Am not sure how the book was marketed. But a novel about these two would surely have they meeting or not as it's selling point and hence I considered it hookey. Anyways... here we are with another one. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:07, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that a new hook has been proposed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:30, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Nearly there. Article is new enough, long enough, and neutrally written. It has no copyvios that I can find. It has been cited inline, and ALT1 is both interesting and supported by the sources. However, one of the facts in the hook is actually not in the article. Dharmadhyaksha, can you add a sentence saying that Wolf Hall actually won the man booker? Then I can pass this. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 06:11, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on June 15[edit]

Environmental globalization

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 14:11, 15 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Piotrus, this is nearly there. QPQ checks out, new enough, long enough, neutral, etc. Cited inline, and the hook fact is supported. However, ALT1, which I much prefer, says "ant-economic globalization activists," while the article says "environmental activists." The two are not necessarily the same, and the hook fact needs to be in the article. Can you fix this? Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 06:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Vanamonde93: Well, the article states " environmental activists might might be opposed to economic globalization", which I sourced to [8]. The source states "an environmental activist might criticie economic or corporate globalization but advocate environmental--ffff globalization or worldwide standards for air and water purity". If you'd have suggestion on how to word the hook, or the article, better, given the source, I'd appreciate it - I did think long and hard about this before, and I still don't have a better solution then the present wording. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:23, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
  • So why not say exactly that, more or less as you've done in the article at the bottom of the first section? That way, there's no issues. Vanamonde (talk) 12:20, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on June 16[edit]

Catherine Hilda Duleep Singh

  • ... that Catherine Hilda Duleep Singh who had a strange relationship with her governess Lina Schaeffer, though not formally called lesbian, spent all her adult life with the latter unconditionally?

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 01:36, 21 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is long and new enough, but there are lots of issues with the writing, and the hook doesn't really make sense (nor do the corresponding passages in the article). I'm also concerned about the sourcing of the statement. Mangoe (talk) 00:10, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I have posted on GOC for c/e. Will be back after it is completed.Nvvchar. 02:35, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
  • The hook is unintelligible. EEng 14:56, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
  • The article has been copy edited by User:Corinne of GOC. I have struck out the original hook and suggesting ALT1 Hook ....that although not formally called a lesbian, Catherine Hilda Duleep Singh spent all her adult life with her former governess Lina Shafer?Nvvchar. 00:05, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I don't know what it means to be "formally" called a lesbian, and I'd like to hear exactly how a RS juxtaposes the cohabitation against such ideas. EEng 00:16, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
From what I can see the whole lesbian thing is, at best, someone's wishful thinking. It's also a dull hook. I think it would be better to work with the Swiss treasure, though at this late hour I can't come up with something on the spot. Mangoe (talk) 03:27, 20 July 2016 (UTC)








Studio 8H

  • ALT1:... that at the time of construction, the 9000 cubic meter Studio 8H was the world's largest radio studio?
  • ALT2:... that at the time of its 1933 construction, the 9000 cubic meter Studio 8H was the world's largest radio studio?

Converted from a redirect by StewdioMACK (talk). Self-nominated at 09:34, 16 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Comment All three hooks could be made more concise by removing "at the time of construction," and instead stating that it was "once the world's largest radio studio". Edwardx (talk) 09:56, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
    Symbol possible vote.svg Assuming that this isn't already taken: Article is new enough and old enough. The date 1950 isn't mentioned in the source given, and the "Two episodes" sources don't mention this particular studio. Most of the history section appears to be unsourced. Didn't notice any copyvio/plagiarism issues. Hook(s) are sourced with inline citations, I agree with Edwardx's comments though. First hook is best in terms of avoiding unnecessary detail. QPQ not needed with only 3 DKYs. The sourcing issues need to be resolved, though.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:29, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Symbol possible vote.svg Better hook, but the sourcing issues still need resolving.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:28, 16 July 2016 (UTC)


Trump National Golf Club Westchester

Created by (talk). Self-nominated at 00:02, 17 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @: New enough, long enough, QPQ present, hook is interesting and cited. However, I'm only counting three episodes (one in Season 1 and two in Season 10), according to the article. Which is correct? Raymie (tc) 06:45, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
@Raymie: They were both two-part finales, ergo, four episodes. Noted in article. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 14:08, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying that. Good to go! Raymie (tc) 18:30, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The source for the first part of the hook fact mentions nothing about a two-part finale. Yoninah (talk) 00:09, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
  • It does appear there was a two-part finale (see The Apprentice (U.S. season 1)), where the final challenge started on the second-to-last episode. I'm just having trouble finding a source that plainly says it like that. Raymie (tc) 18:31, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
@Yoninah: I would fully trust rationale like Raymie's to be acceptable. That logic should really suffice, but if necessary I can cite the episodes themselves as a good compromise. Thanks --ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 00:25, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Per Wikipedia:Did you know#Eligibility criteria 3. Cited hook: The fact(s) mentioned in the hook must be cited in the article. I would also trust Raymie on an uncited fact in a DYK article, but this fact is in the hook. Perhaps another hook should be suggested? Yoninah (talk) 13:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah and : Let's try an ALT1 and ALT2: Raymie (tc) 01:38, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Trump National Golf Club Westchester was constructed in the "toughest place to build on the planet"?
ALT2: ... that initiation fees at Trump National Golf Club Westchester have dropped $150,000 since 2001?
Fine with either, though the initial one could be supported by citing the episodes, which I can do easily if it's acceptable. ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 22:18, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @: go ahead, we're waiting for you to do that. Otherwise, I like ALT2. Yoninah (talk) 22:38, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @: I see you're linking the season 1 two-part finale to a Wikipedia article that has no sources. It's not clear or verified that it was a two-part finale, the way the season 10 two-part finale is verified by the source. Yoninah (talk) 10:16, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 17[edit]

Kairana and Kandhla migration row

Created by Skr15081997 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:31, 17 June 2016 (UTC).

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Page has been renamed Kairana and Sardhana migration row. Reopening DYK nomination for a fresh review. Yoninah (talk) 09:53, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Has the article been changed at all from when it was a duplicate? The article may have a new title, but the only place Sardhana is mentioned is in the article title, not its body, which strikes me as problematic. The C of E|, can you remember which article this duplicated? If nothing else we need to see whether anything was copied; if it was, then it needs to be 5x expanded from the copied material, not merely at least 1500 prose characters. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:15, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
No, I didn't get to see it before the deletion. I stated that based on the rationale that was given for the deletion. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 21:46, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
BlueMoonset, the original CSD tag said "This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion because: Kairana exodus page already exists." Please see Kairana hindu exodus. RHaworth was one of the admins who was involved in some of the redirects and might be able to give a clearer answer here. — Maile (talk) 22:33, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Well, in fact, I know it for sure now, Mukim Kala was deleted 20:41, 18 June 2016 by Reaper Eternal, for "Extremely negative POV". The section "Kairana mass exodus" read: 350 families have deserted the Muslim-majority city Kairana over the past two years due to extortion and loot by goons of gangster Mukim Kala. Many families have shifted to nearby Haryana villages due to the terror of Kala's gang. Locals said they were getting threats on phone and through letters. If one refuses to give protection money, he is killed by the henchmen. They have no option but to leave the city to save their lives. Bharatiya Janata Party has accused the state's Samajwadi Party government of patronizing those behind the violence. The National Human Rights Commission recently issued a notice to the Uttar Pradesh government over the alleged exodus. The move came on the heels of a complaint that a Hindu woman was gang-raped and murdered in the area recently, but no action was initiated due to political pressure. Locals said the city, falling under Shamli district, has turned into Pakistan where murder, loot and extortion were rampant. It is impossible for a decent man to live in Kairana town. A lawyer in Kairana, Meherban Qureshi, said an atmosphere of fear has gripped the city where "no person has the liberty to roam around freely". — Maile (talk) 23:10, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Now...with all that said above, the history is still intact on this nomination's article. It looks to me like RHaworth did an "unspeedy" and moved Kairana migration row intact to User:Skr15081997/Kairana at 20:02 on 18 June. User:Skr15081997 moved it to main space on 02:11 on 19 June, after the other article had already been deleted. The history of the article goes all the way back to when it was created by Skr15081997 on 17 June. Comparing the histories, it looks to me like this article is word-for-word as it was before deletion. — Maile (talk) 23:30, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
  • BlueMoonset, I have moved the page to Kairana and Kandhla migration row. I haven't copied anything for this article except the line due to extortion and loot by goons of gangster Mukim Kala. I have also added more content to the article. Thanks, --Skr15081997 (talk) 13:23, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Looks like this is ready for review. Montanabw(talk) 05:35, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
    • Symbol voting keep.svg QPQ checks out. New enough, long enough, and copyvio-free. The issues with duplication vis-a-vis new content seem to have been sorted out above. The article is neutrally written, and cited inline. Likewise the hook. AGF on non-english sources. Vanamonde (talk) 07:59, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 19[edit]

Theodore de Korwin Szymanowski

Korwin Szymanowski c. 1885
Korwin Szymanowski c. 1885

Created by Po Kadzieli (talk). Self-nominated at 15:06, 25 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Piotrus, at 222 prose characters, the hook is far too long and has been struck. Perhaps you could propose an ALT hook that's under the 200 character limit, either new, or edited down? (I'm also pinging the original nominator's talk page.) Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:52, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
  • How about this for ALT1:--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:17, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Theodore de Korwin Szymanowski, one of the earliest promoters of a Unified Europe, proposed a customs union, a central bank, and a single currency as far back as 1885?
Symbol question.svg Interesting biography and topic, on good sources, non-English sources accepted AGF. The ALT is fine, but consider fewer links. You want readers to click on him, not central bank ;) - Article: please format all bare references by giving titles, - in the references it's just moving the link to the titles. Too many for me to do it ;) - You don't need any references in the lead as long as the facts are references in the body, but it doesn't hurt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:55, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
I think the article needs some reference fixes. Quite a few paragraphs lacked end-of-paragraph citations, and I have concerns over referencing of individual sentences. Some books have no page given. References 10 seem to be primary (by the subject), suggesting WP:OR for those paragraphs(and the hook is based on refs 11 and 12). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:15, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Piotrus, your help is highly appreciated, as I speak neither French nor Polish. Po, nice to meet you! More questions may come up, patience please, I am rather busy these days, and deliver in portions I think are easy to handle, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:28, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
By fewer links I means something like
ALT2: ... that Theodore de Korwin Szymanowski, one of the earliest promoters of a Unified Europe, proposed a customs union, a central bank, and a single currency already in 1885? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello Piotus and Gerda, Iam going to have to visit the Polish Library to get page numbers for Chylińska and Norman Davies. I too am v. busy, but I will try this evening. I can't find the signature icon. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:51, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Missing citation elements supplied from access at British Library on 28 June 2016. (talk) 21.04, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. A stylistic thing is still there, called bare url, - we don't want to show the url, only link to it. Example:
* Viansson-Ponté, L. 1836-1913, Les Jésuites à Metz : Collège Saint-Louis, 1622-1762, Collège Saint Clément, 1852-1872 par L. Viansson-Ponté. Published 1897, see p.426. https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Search/Home?lookfor=%22%20Coll%C3%A8ge%20Saint-Cl%C3%A9ment%20(Metz,%20France)%22&type=subject&inst=
You can fix it simply by saying:
* Viansson-Ponté, L. 1836-1913, Les Jésuites à Metz : Collège Saint-Louis, 1622-1762, Collège Saint Clément, 1852-1872. Published 1897, see p.426.
You could also go a step further, for a more standardized look, saying:
* Viansson-Ponté, L. (1897). Les Jésuites à Metz : Collège Saint-Louis, 1622-1762, Collège Saint Clément, 1852-1872. p. 426. 
Try it. As for signature, the four tildes are below for me, to be copied, - look around, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Gerda. It worked. Perhaps the numerous references to Żurowski vel Grajewski's (all one Polish name - I have met him) Postface and notes can be reduced to 1, 2, 3, etc. with just the page numbers, but I have not yet found a template for how to do that. Kind regards, Po Kadzieli (talk) 16:44, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you! - Yes, if you want different pages for the same source, you can list the ref in a biography section, and call it by a template (Harvard citation), {{sfn|author|year|p=xy}}. It's only a little step further. Compare BWV 161, for example, - copy what you like. You can do that for just the book with several pages, or for all (as in the cantata), where the Dürr ref is used with several pages. You will notice that the ref number will take you to a ref in the reflist, which links to the full source. - Less elegant, you could have the book in the Bibliography and call by "author, p. xy", but it will not produce the link. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:16, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Amazed by BWV 161 clarity and counterpoint of the article - can almost hear the music! Shall try to focus on the template presently. Thank you for tremendous encouragement. --Po Kadzieli (talk) 02:06, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Same source pages seem to have progressed. New hitches have occurred over his surname: TKS, as an acronym, had to be disambiguated! Then, the different forms of his name, unlike Bach's, undergo changes across country and time. Hence the contemporary Polish version now appears in red in the publications section. In the 19th c. no hyphen in his name either in France or in Poland. Now in Poland there is a hyphen. I have stuck to the way his name appears on original publications in France. Thank you so much for your patience. Po Kadzieli (talk) 01:59, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
I am impressed, and not impatient, - no deadline to make in this case. Decide on one spelling and explain the others, - if too long, in a footnote (compare the one after "BWV 161" in the cantata). No authorlinks to him in references, anyway, as they would only go back to the same page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. I have however reached my Waterloo in that I am stumped by what is best for spellings. I have put a note under the Publications heading. Maybe the seasoned Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here has a suggestion? I await meanwhile. Po Kadzieli (talk) 11:48, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
For alt spellings, we have WP:REDIRECTs (I just created one for Théodore de Korwin Szymanowski. If this is about a - in his name, I think a note is fine, but instead of a italicized text in the publication section I'd suggest a proper footnote, separate from the reference section. See for example how this is done in Józef Piłsudski. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:22, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Cristina Takacs-Vesbach

Created by Allisonlee9 (talk) and Evolution and evolvability (talk). Nominated by Evolution and evolvability (talk) at 13:12, 26 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Article is new but was already 12 days old at time of nomination, and with most of its content having been created on the first day (although the article is long enough). Additionally, the article has a blank infobox, needs to be reviewed and footnoted more thoroughly, has minor grammatical and formatting errors, and an orphan tag, but does not seem to have any copyright or close paraphrasing. It also has neutrality issues. Also, while the hook is sourced, neutral, interesting, and short enough, the article describes Takacs-Vesbach as having been part of a team and not acting alone, so maybe the hook would need to be reworded. I also can't find any indication that the nominator has reviewed another article. TCMemoire 03:34, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Since this is the nominator's first DYK nomination, I think we can be lenient about the 12-day lead time. However, the references do not show notability; none discuss Takacs-Vesbach in depth, and the hook is not cited inline. If the page creator or nominator can find independent, reliable sources to prove notability, this could be re-reviewed. Yoninah (talk) 08:48, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for pointing this out. I'm stll getting used to DYKs. The specific hook is easy to get a reference for (which I shall do either way). The general notability is harder to support with a specific reference. She was included based on WP:NACADEMIC-1 in that the impact of her work is far above others in her field [9]. Either way, I'll clean up the claim on her page, whether or not she is sufficient for a DYK. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 04:46, 29 June 2016 (UTC)







Articles created/expanded on June 21[edit]

JetBlue Mint

A JetBlue Airbus A321
A JetBlue Airbus A321
  • ... that each JetBlue Mint (aircraft pictured) passenger gets two power outlets?

Moved to mainspace by SSTflyer (talk). Self-nominated at 07:12, 21 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RSes. Image okay. GTG. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 23:28, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg This hook fact is incorrect. There are two power outlets per row of economy seats not per passenger. It could be reworded to
  • ALT2 ... that each JetBlue Mint (aircraft pictured) passenger has access to two power outlets? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:48, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
  • @Cwmhiraeth: not incorrect. "JetBlue Mint passenger" refers to passengers flying in Mint class. Economy class passengers on Mint-configured aircraft are not Mint passengers. Not that I mind if ALT2 is used, though. SSTflyer 10:30, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg OK, I get it. Restoring tick as per Jakob, either the original or ALT2 hook could be used. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:50, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg ALT2 hook was pulled from main page after about four hours; it was the subject of a discussion on the DYK talk page that objected to the hook and the article is proposed to be merged into the main JetBlue article. I've struck it and the similar original hook. The commented-out ALT1 hook also looks promotional in nature ("dedicated premium product"). Nomination is on hold until the merge discussion is settled, and a new hook is proposed; given the hook's short tenure on the main page, it is eligible for another go if it remains a separate article. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:23, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on June 22[edit]

Annette Lyon

  • ... that Annette Lyon is a freelance writer and editor who collaborated with the Newport Ladies Book Club to write a nine-book series?
  • ALT1:... that author Annette Lyon loves chocolate so much that she helped out with the Utah Chocolate Show, and wrote her own chocolate cookbook?
  • Reviewed: Jennifer d'Abo

Created by Amgisseman(BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 20:47, 22 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Some issues found.
    • This article is new and was created on 20:36, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
    • This article meets the DYK criteria at 2053 characters
    • All paragraphs in this article have at least one citation
    • This article has no outstanding maintenance tags
    • There is possible close paraphrasing on this article with 21.9% confidence. (confirm)
      • Note to reviewers: There is low confidence in this automated metric, please manually verify that there is no copyright infringement or close paraphrasing. Note that this number may be inflated due to cited quotes and titles which do not constitute a copyright violation.
  • The hook ALT0 is an appropriate length at 135 characters
  • This is Amgisseman's 21th nomination. A QPQ review of Template:Did you know nominations/Jennifer d'Abo was performed for this nomination.

Automatically reviewed by DYKReviewBot. This bot is experimental; please report any issues. This is not a substitute for a human review. --DYKReviewBot (report bugs) 23:24, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review by human reviewer needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:20, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg The article is new and long enough as reported above, and the "copyvio" was simply a repeat of a basic list, which I doubt could be written any other way. ALT0 doesn't really have a "wow" factor for me. I prefer ALT1, but the article does not directly say she loved chocolate (you could presumably write a book about it without being a particularly big fan), and the rest of the claim is cited to mormonartist.net - what makes that a reliable source for a BLP? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:51, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Ritchie333 Thank you for your review. In Lyon's bio on her website she mentions that she eats chocolate, so I included that in the article itself. I also added two other sources that support the information in ALT1: one to support her helping out with the Utah chocolate show, and the other a link to the summary of the chocolate book itself on Lyon's website. Do you recommend that I change anything else in the article? Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 19:50, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg I dropped in another source for the book. Liking chocolate is not exactly a controversial claim, so that can stay per WP:BLPSELFPUB. So I would say ALT1 is good to go. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:17, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg The Daily Universe doesn't seem to note that she wrote a cookbook and MormonArtist.Net is not RS. The "Daily Herald" source has an embedded YouTube video in which a person claiming to be Annette Lyon claims she wrote a chocolate cookbook, however, the video itself is not from the "Daily Herald" official channel but the channel of someone named Chris Stevenson who has 35 YouTube subscribers and has uploaded 5 videos in the last 3 years. It is unclear if the Chris Stevenson YouTube channel is subject to normal Daily Herald editorial controls (the fact it's embedded on the DH website does not, of itself, establish that as there's no caption or commentary and this may be a "citizen journalism" section of the site). The other source for the cookbook claim is annettelyon.com which is not RS. Everything else looks good (copyvio, length, newness, etc.) (as per a recent decision at ANI, all noms which I review require a second review) LavaBaron (talk) 22:17, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
@LavaBaron: Claims against facts are what are reliable, not sources per se. A source may be acceptable for one claim, but not another. annettelyon.com passes WP:BLPSELFPUB as being a suitable source for innocuous claims about themselves. Dismissing a source as "not RS" is unhelpful, unless you think it is suspicious that Annette Lyon likes chocolate and believe her claim to have written a book is a lie. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:32, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
While I personally agree it's improbable Lyon would have much to gain by claiming to write a book she didn't write, it's not absolutely impossible (i.e. is this a paid endorsement, is she trying to burnish her credentials by claiming to have been published, etc.). I was given a 30-day block earlier this month for passing a DYK on the basis a GF claim the Governor of Durango was inaugurated on September 15 instead of a more reliable source that only said sometime during the month of September, and that's probably less controversial than this, so I'm not exactly in a position to give a lot of slack right now. Also in a discussion at talk it's been mentioned this review , specifically, "helped the process" so I feel if I change it to a green tick it will open me up to another TBAN. If you want to re-tick this, however, I won't oppose it. As long as there's a paper trail that I objected I think that's okay. LavaBaron (talk) 16:53, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
LavaBaron I agree with Ritchie333 (talk)'s assertion that "annettelyon.com passes WP:BLPSELFPUB as being a suitable source for innocuous claims about themselves." Ritchie 333, are there any other issues with this nomination that I should address? Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 17:24, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
I don't feel I have the liberty to change my !vote. Ritchie has an immunity card and can risk green-lighting reviews sourced to personal webpages; I don't have one and can't risk it as it could mean a block for me if this is later challenged. However, as I said, I have no objection to someone promoting this based on Ritchie's green tick, or that of another editor who doesn't mind taking a chance. It's a fantastically written article, BTW - great job! (I'll post a request for a third review in discussion.) LavaBaron (talk) 02:29, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
  • The cook book's publication details are shown here so maybe just reference the book (including publisher and ISBN) and add it to the list of her publications? EdChem (talk) 07:16, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
My only possible concern is that the alleged book, despite being five years old, isn't indexed by OCLC [10]. The Amazon listing is a "fulfilled by Amazon" listing which means its listing is third-party submitted versus Amazon. But again, I won't object if someone else promotes it, as long as there's a paper trail that I enumerated concerns. LavaBaron (talk) 16:00, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
I added the cookbook as a reference and added it to the list of publications.Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 19:22, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
FYI, here's a RS from KSL-TV that seems to confirm the book exists. [11] LavaBaron (talk) 16:06, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for that reference. I also added it as a source. Have we reached a consensus on this article yet? Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 19:04, 15 July 2016 (UTC) LavaBaron EdChem Ritchie333
@Ritchie333: I have not objected to promotion, I just pointed to some details on the cook book. Given his restrictions, I would not be comfortable giving a tick if I was LavaBaron (given the target on his back). I suggest you either re-tick with concerns addressed or call for an independent look at WT:DYK. @Amgisseman(BYU): FYI, this isn't really about your article. LavaBaron is being understandably over-cautious after a recent mauling over mistakes which was made worse by a group that does not like the DYK project. Sorry, but DYK has promoted material which did not belong on the main page (and been rightly criticised for it) but some criticisms are more aimed at editors and participants; consequently, some nominations get a deeper examination and it's not necessarily because it has issues that warrant it. Please try not to take the delay personally. EdChem (talk) 00:47, 21 July 2016 (UTC)


Flamenco Road

Dramatic red and white lighting highlighting guitarist and female flamenco dancer dressed in sleek male-style bullfighter costume
Michael Laucke and flamenco dancer
  • ... that the new flamenco enhanced CD Flamenco Road contained a video that was No. 1 on the charts in Canada for five consecutive weeks?

Created/expanded by Natalie.Desautels (talk). Nominated by Natalie.Desautels (talk) at 10:55, 22 June 2016 (UTC).

Created/expanded by Natalie.Desautels (talk). Nominated by Natalie.Desautels (talk) at 16:40, 25 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article was moved into mainspace on June 18, is about 1800 characters long and a search for copyright violations returns a clean bill of health. The problem I have is that the hook is incorrect - the article asserts it was number one on the video charts, while the source given is a Flickr snapshot of a music chart (which in itself is copyright violation and hence a bad idea to use a source) and does not seem to support the claim given. When you think of something like "(Everything I Do) I Do It for You" which was number one on the UK charts for about 4 months, it's not a particularly outstanding hook in the first place. See if you can dig out an interview about the album from the Billboard or Rolling Stone archives, and if something "hooky" or "quirky" leaps out at you, put it in the article and use that. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:28, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Ritchie333. Hook refined. Will work on an ALT, and anybody else is of course free to chime in with ALTs too. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 22:49, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
That still leaves the lack of general "hookiness" for the hooks, which are all basic variations on the same theme. I would recommend following the above advice to see if there's anything hook-worthy in other sources that has not yet been added to the article. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:39, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
@Ritchie333 and Checkingfax: I did have in mind what I think would be a better hook but need to dig up the reference I misplaced. It mentions that the Flamenco Road CD is the first album in the 'new flamenco' (neuvo flamenco) genre to use a 24 track recording process. (Flamenco began with just guitar, voice and dance, and evolved to Paco de Lucia's sextet, but 24 tracks is unheard of in this genre). ...will try to find the ref. Many thanks for your time and feedback; much appreciated. Natalie Desautels …as within, so without 20:07, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
@Ritchie333 and Checkingfax: PS. flamenco Road is an instrumental album; almost all hits are voice these days so an instrumental hit is really quite rare. One thinks of 'The Ventures' 40 years ago when instrumental hits were more common. Also, for an purely instrumental work with no singing to pass Diana Krall and Leonard Cohen on the charts is also kind of quirky. Maybe this fact can be worked into the 'hook' somehow. ...just my two cents Face-smile.svg. kind regards, Natalie Desautels …as within, so without 20:14, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
@Ritchie333 and Checkingfax: I added Alt 4 above, and added alt image text as well; hoping it's better ...not sure if this is the right procedure to implement a new ALT version. kind regards, Natalie Desautels …as within, so without 20:49, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
@Natalie.Desautels: I don't want to sound like I'm causing trouble, but ALT4 doesn't really grab me as being "hooky" enough for the main page. I think trying to get something on chart placement is probably a bit of a dead end. Plus the article only says the album was probably the first album to employ 24-track recording, not that it definitely was. We need to get this information right, otherwise people will complain as soon as it hits the main page and file reports on WP:ERRORS. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:34, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
@Dr. Blofeld: This music is right up your street, can you help? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:35, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
@Ritchie333 and Checkingfax:...updated the article to quote source more precisely and support the DYK claim, to wit: "According to Voir magazine, Flamenco Road is the first recording in this style to employ such elaborate instrumentation." ...still, not quirky enough perhaps... kind regards, Natalie Desautels …as within, so without 16:49, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Natalie.Desautels, I've just made some copyedits to the article after striking ALT4—at 224 characters, it was well beyond the maximum length allowed. I've also had to strike ALT5 because it gives a 1990 date for an album that was released in 2001, and the article gives no indication that the release was eleven years after the recording. I'm definitely puzzled about the second source, since anything dated 1990 cannot possibly be referring to an album released in 2001. The elaborate instrumentation does not automatically imply 24 tracks, so I don't think that wording is useful and is why my copyedit changed it (nor is it part of what you've translated)—it's the usage of 24 tracks that's germane, and while I reworded the phrase, the 1990 source date casts it all into doubt (unless the date of the source is wrong, in which case please fix it and, if at all possible, add a link to the voir.ca page where the article resides). I think, however, what concerns me is how very close the article text is to the various source text translations in some places, most notably the second half of the second paragraph, which is almost identical to the program notes it is taken from (as translated in the reference). It might be better to quote some of those notes, even if it reduces the total original prose count for the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:46, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
@Ritchie333 and Checkingfax: Many thanks for your time and good work here. Sorry for the late reply; I am presently overloaded as interpreter/translator for the Rio Olympics, as mentioned on my talk page. The year of 1990 is incorrect; ..no idea how it got there. It should properly be 2001 so I corrected it. I also heeded your kind advice to put in quotes what is directly quoted from the album jacket. The voir.ca article I translated parts of is already included. I'll update ALT4 AND ALT5; hope it's better but, as stated, perhaps not quirky enough. kind regards, Natalie Desautels …as within, so without 07:50, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
I have restruck ALT4, as it remains well above the maximum hook length and thus ineligible for DYK whatever the facts and wording. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:02, 17 July 2016 (UTC)





Billie Jenkins

Improved to Good Article status by Aoba47 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:49, 22 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Some issues found.
    • This article was Listed as a Good Article on 04:34, 22 June 2016
    • This article meets the DYK criteria at 18135 characters
    • All paragraphs in this article have at least one citation
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  • The hook ALT0 is an appropriate length at 136 characters
  • The hook ALT1 is an appropriate length at 115 characters
  • The hook ALT2 is an appropriate length at 130 characters
  • This is Aoba47's' 4th nomination. No QPQ required. Note a QPQ will be required after 1 more DYKs.

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  • Symbol question.svg Made a GA on June 22; more than long enough; looked into the bot's copyvio claim and it is not an issue; go with the original hook but reword it. See below for how I'm seeing that info presented in the article (do note that which ever hook is chosen, the character name should not be in quotes); QPQ didn't have to be done, but was anyways. Once the nominator addresses the hook change, this will be good to go. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:40, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
  • ALT3:. ... that Brad Kern created the character Billie Jenkins in order to satisfy the WB's condition to renew Charmed for its eighth and final season?.
  • Thank you for your review. I prefer your wording so I have struck my above hooks in favor of yours. Thank you again! Aoba47 (talk) 03:47, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Thank you! Aoba47 (talk) 08:22, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg User:Favre1fan93: per Rule H2, you cannot approve your own hook. By changing the hook fact, you need to let someone else put the final approval on it.
  • I came by to promote this, but do not see ALT3 in the source. The source doesn't say anything about an "eighth and final season". I would have thought you would write something like:
  • ALT4: ... that Brad Kern created the characters of Billie Jenkins and Christy Jenkins in order to satisfy the WB's condition to renew Charmed for its eighth season? Yoninah (talk) 23:05, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Thank you. I agree with your change in the hook. I will make sure that this is changed in the actual article itself. I have struck out the older hook. I apologize for any inconvenience. Aoba47 (talk) 23:40, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Symbol redirect vote 4.svg OK, calling on new reviewer to sign off on ALT4. Yoninah (talk) 23:42, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg @Yoninah: ALT4 is verified as in this source. Inline referenced correctly in article. Rest of the review per Favre1fan93.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:27, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I have returned this from prep because the hook is sourced to a blog. Gatoclass (talk) 16:38, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Gatoclass: But the quote from the source was take directly from a interview with the executive producer of the show so I do not really understand why that cannot be used? If the source is not appropriate, then you can just remove this all together. Aoba47 (talk) 02:39, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Aoba47, while I might normally have allowed this nomination through, there is a currently active administrator who is inclined to pull hooks from the main page if they don't like the sourcing. I'm sure you don't want to see your hook pulled from the main page, and it's certainly not something I like to see, so I pre-emptively removed this hook in hope you could supply the original source for the hook, or failing that, supply a new hook. Gatoclass (talk) 20:02, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Gatoclass: Thank you for your comments and I apologize for my rushed response and I hope I did not come across as rude or disrespectful. I completely agree, and I think vetting the hooks for any issues before placing them on the main paige is a great idea. I will supply a new hook below as soon as possible if that is okay with you. The original hook was supported through an executive producer's interview with a fan-site for show so it would not be appropriate. I apologize any for any inconvenience and misunderstanding on my part. Aoba47 (talk) 21:03, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
  • ALT5: ...that Brad Kern created the character Billie Jenkins to "lighten the load, screen-time wise" for Charmed 's three principal actors and "bring new blood to an aging show"?
  • This new hook is verified in this source. Thank you again for your help! Please let me know if there is anything else that needs to be changed or clarified. Aoba47 (talk) 21:15, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Aoba47, the new hook looks acceptable, but I'm thinking it's a little wordy, how would you feel about shortening it to just the latter quote? Gatoclass (talk) 02:58, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
@Gatoclass: That definitely works with me. I didn't realize how long it was until after I saved the page. I have struck out the previous longer form and placed the new, shortened hook below for your convenience. Thank you again for your help and feedback.
ALT6:...that Brad Kern created the character Billie Jenkins to "lighten the load, screen-time wise" for Charmed 's three principal actors? Aoba47 (talk) 03:26, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
@Gatoclass: Any updates? Aoba47 (talk) 07:30, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Sorry about the delay in response, Aoba47, I haven't been very active here for some days. Your revised hook looks fine, but I couldn't confirm it from the source supplied in the article. Gatoclass (talk) 03:48, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: No worries, I am pretty busy myself so I definitely know that feeling. And that is odd, I opened the link I supplied above, and I can find the quoted material ("lighten the load, screen-time wise") directly in the article. It is directly next to photo of Kaley Cuoco wearing a black wig and outfit in the section titled "Enter Billie". I am not entirely certainly where the problem is there.
Now you really have me scratching my head, Aoba47. I can't see any section entitled "Enter Billie". But regardless, the cite has to be directly after the hook statement in the article, and when I did a search for the quote "lighten the load", the source which follows does not contain the quote. Gatoclass (talk) 14:37, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
@Aoba47 and Gatoclass: The link used for the hook in the article was sort of correct. The cited content was in the image gallery at the bottom of the article previously linked to. I've fixed the sourcing issue here, in hopes that this DYK can get its pass. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:34, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your help, Favre1fan93! I used the prior link as I thought I had to link to the main article and was not sure if I could link directly to the image gallery. Hopefully, this solves it. Aoba47 (talk) 16:30, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 24[edit]

It's Not Me, It's You (game show)

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 23:05, 26 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Launchballer - I question whether or not this is actually notable enough for an article after just one episode? Are tellymix.com and UKGameshows.com considered reliable sources? the fourth one is a primary source by the channel itself and the first one (Digital spy) is basically a press release "it's coming". I am just not seeing how this passes the General Notability Guideline?  MPJ-DK  23:26, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
I have no idea what policy he was quoting, but apparently being a weekly show on a national TV channel is an indication of notability. It's late in my country, but later on I'll have a look.--Launchballer 23:54, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Launchballer So the policy that "he" (that would be me, please don't talk past me like I am beneath you) refers to is just one of the foundations of WIkipedia - articles must be notable, if you don't know it then I can reccomend it as nighttime read. You want another link from "that guy"? How about WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS, so that does not really convince me that this should stay. Please try to remain civil and perhaps not so defensive?  MPJ-DK  00:02, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
You have misinterpreted my message. Please read "he" as "the IP"; if you follow the link I have provided, it will take you to an edit made by an IP deprodding an article I had prodded, with his/her rationale being that "being a weekly show on a national TV channel is an indication of notability". Again, I have no idea where that idea was obtained, but I wasn't talking past you, and I think I had better go to bed to avoid causing further offence! I will have another look for sources in the morning.--Launchballer 00:18, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Launchballer Ah shoot, I totally took that wrong, I apologize for my own uncivility.  MPJ-DK  00:21, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Even so, I wonder about the notability. There aren't any reviews, as MPJ-DK notes the Digital Spy source has sparse detail about the (then) forthcoming show, tellymix.com strikes me as a very dubious source (the page about the Writers is filled with grammatical issues, which is highly unprofessional), and the rest are primary sources. Indeed, the bulk of the article is Launchballer's description of what he saw, and the format seems to be changing from episode to episode (based on the first two episodes), which does not inspire confidence in the format assumptions being made. At the moment, even if the IP is right about notability—which I think is open to question—this isn't ready for main page highlighting via DYK without far better sourcing than is currently provided. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:43, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Here's another few sources. The two episodes I've seen are on Demand 5; would you like links to the articles?--Launchballer 12:41, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Launchballer, as the hook is dependent on the tellymix source that I found very dubious for the reasons expressed, and you haven't even tried to convinced me that it is reliable, this nomination is still not ready and its one hook is in doubt. (It also isn't very interesting: if it was originally commissioned for an hour, so what? Most people won't know that broadcast episodes run 45 minutes, so they'll have no basis for comparison. Please try for a truly interesting hook.) Regarding the new sources, the first two were added in Background and deal with occurrences prior to the show (and unrelated to it), and don't establish notability for this show. The ChronicleLive source, which at first glance would seem to be exactly what I was asking for in terms of reviews, reads like a fanboy gushing about Vicki Pattison. I'm not knowledgeable about the British press: is ChronicleLive a reliable source (an offshoot, perhaps, of a magazine or television show)? If it is, then it should be included, but probably not more than you already have. As for the Demand 5 articles, as they're primary sources, they won't help notability. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:54, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
ChronicleLive is a local paper representing Pattison's home turf, the North East, and owned by Trinity Mirror. Most of the press coverage for the show gushes even more violently about the two team captains "Kelly Brook smoulders as she finishes filming It's Not Me, It's You" is the contents of most of them. The Express reviewed the last episode; while it's not a reliable source for fact, I'm happy to take the reviewer's opinion as valid.
ALT1: ... that It's Not Me, It's You has been described as a "more formal Celebrity Juice"? or
ALT2: ... It's Not Me, It's You? (I reckon readers will want to know what's them.)--Launchballer 18:34, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Launchballer, thanks for removing that tellymix source. I've struck the original hook. (Did you notice that the Duke review says the show is 45 minutes, while the Baylis review says half an hour?) ALT1 really isn't interesting to most people; it might be a bit interesting to people who know Celebrity Juice, but I feel that we can't base a hook off of how the network (or is BT an online rebroadcaster, like Hulu?) describes a show in its own listing. It's a biased source trying to hype its own program. As for the ALT2 hook, it's more April Fools' Day fodder, because it depends on misrepresenting the article title (which should be in italics since it's a television show), something that's only allowed for April 1 hooks. Would you want this to be an April Fools' Day hook (which would mean nearly a nine month wait), or would you prefer to suggest other hooks? The one thing you haven't mentioned is that this is a dating-themed show; that might be able to be worked into something reasonably interesting along with the show's title. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:36, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Ah, why didn't you say so? I'm autistic, so dating is very uninteresting to me. I wrote/watch this because I like panel shows. I did notice the Baylis inaccuracy, which was why I was so reticent to use it initially, but I think he may have got half-hour from being the same advertisers' anathema that I am; skipping the commercials. BT, for the purposes of that source, isn't really a network, rather a television platform like Freeview (UK). Would ALT3: ... It's Not Me, It's You? solve that problem, and if not ALT4: ... that It's Not Me, It's You sees Kelly Brook and Vicky Pattison interacting with potential dates using a live video Tinder-style swipe screen?--Launchballer 11:11, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
BlueMoonset What's another name for a call-and-lose contest? It comes across as a bit grumpy but I can't think what they're supposed to be called. (As it transpires, both Duke and Baylis were right - episode 5's been reduced to half an hour.)--Launchballer 12:25, 17 July 2016 (UTC)





Articles created/expanded on June 25[edit]

Élizabeth Teissier

Created by Adam Cuerden (talk). Self-nominated at 17:16, 25 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Some issues found.
    • This article is new and was created on 16:00, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
    • This article meets the DYK criteria at 5544 characters
    • Paragraphs [4] (Elizabeth ... results.),[5] (A ... (73%)) in this article lack a citation.
      • I think it was clear before, but I've made it explicit that it's covered by the cite at the end of the section. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:30, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
    • This article has no outstanding maintenance tags
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        • I don't think this is meaningful; it appears to be catching titles and quotes and such. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:31, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
  • The hook ALT0 is an appropriate length at 69 characters
  • This is Adam Cuerden's' 3th nomination. No QPQ required. Note a QPQ will be required after 2 more DYKs.
    • I think that's not counting some very old ones, but no matter: I did a QPQ. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:32, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

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  • Symbol question.svg I have reviewed the article and the bot's comments above. I agree with all of the ticks given by the bot, and accept the explanations by Adam regarding the crosses. To summarize, the article is new enough, having been created two days ago. It is certainly long enough, with three sections and several sub-sections. Considering the potentially controversial nature of the subject, I think it is neutrally written. I assume good faith on the French-language sources. The article appears clear of any copyright problems. The hook is short, within policy and topical. QPQ has been performed. The only issue I wish to bring to the nominator Adam Cuerden's attention is that the first paragraph of the "Career" subsection about her modelling is unsourced. Apart from that I think it is ready to go. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 07:53, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I'll check if it's covered in one of the nearby sources. Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:38, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
@Athomeinkobe: It wasn't covered, so I rewrote the section a bit to match the sources I found. Google is blocking some articles from me under the Right to privacy laws of Europe; I'll need to poke around with other search engines once I'm home and see what comes up, and whether I can source the original, more detailed text. Is it good to go as it stands, though? Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:47, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg I've fixed some minor punctuation problems, so it looks ok to me now. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:18, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg I have pulled this nomination from prep as the rules say "Articles and hooks that focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided" and in my view, losing a lawsuit counts as a negative aspect. Could we please pick another hook? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:40, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that Élizabeth Teissier claims to have predicted Black Monday and the fall of the Berlin Wall? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:50, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Oh, hell no. We are not doing a pro-astrology hook, that's a violation of WP:FRINGE, a subset of WP:NPOV - one of the five pillars of Wikipedia. The original is fine - it's well sourced, and is something she got plenty of press coverage about; it should never, never have been pulled. The new one - besides actual policy violations - also uses claims of success explicitly sourced only to the astrologer, ignoring that the article actually has a reliable source independently testing her success rate, which proved negative. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:23, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
I think it's fine. It doesn't say she did predict those events, just that she claims to. It's interesting enough to make someone want to read more, where they'll learn about her actual success rate. clpo13(talk) 15:17, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Agree with Adam Cuerden. In it's current form the article clearly introduces affirmative claims regarding astrology, a subject that the community has long considered to be a Fringe Theory. The lack of any explanation that astrology is considered fringe violates both WP:DUE and WP:PROFRINGE. We do not allow articles to be used for the promotion of fringe theories and we certainly do not post articles with pro-fringe material on the Front Page. Mentioning fringe beliefs is not prohibited. Failing to include a clear statement explaining that such beliefs are not generally accepted and why, is. In its current form this article cannot be linked on the Front Page. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:31, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
@Ad Orientem: Oh, come. How is it pro-astrology? It includes lengthy analysis of her accuracy, and discusses the controversy about her defense of astrology. I can't see it as any way promotional of astrology (although the hook is, by taking one of the only sentences that's at all pro-astrology in the article, and choosing that. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:48, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
I took another look at it and agree that there is a pretty strong refutation of her particular claims, though I would like to see at least a sentence stating that the scientific community regards astrology as bunk, or words to that effect. I will remove the tag. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:53, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
I agree with Clpo13. I've already read the article in this case, but even in general, any sentence such as "X claims to have predicted Y" (as opposed to an affirmative statement "X predicted Y") activates my bullshit detector. So I would not call this ALT blurb "pro-astrology". AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 00:57, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
It may activate your bullshit detector, but we aren't writing for you; we're writing for everyone, and that kind of "coded" warning is only going to work on people who are already skeptical of such claims. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:52, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I just struck the original hook because it was the one that was pulled, and ALT1 given the objections of Adam Cuerden. I'm also copying over the following two posts by Gatoclass and Adam Cuerden from the WT:DYK#Prep 2: Élizabeth Teissier discussion, since they seem to point the way to a possible new hook (which needs to be written). BlueMoonset (talk) 19:06, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Well, Adam Cuerden, I think we could have a hook about the fact that she was controversially awarded a doctorate for a defence of astrology (assuming I have read the article correctly). That certainly strikes me as a very interesting and unusual fact worth highlighting. Gatoclass (talk) 15:59, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
That seems fair. It's just having a hook pulled - and replaced with a suggestion for an arguably pro-astrology one isn't exactly what one wants to wake up to, you know? Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:03, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 27[edit]

Marriage of Billie Ert and Antonio Molina

Created by TCMemoire (talk). Self-nominated at 03:40, 28 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Comment: This is not a review, but I want to note that this is a very interesting article and a nice addition to this encyclopedia. I have read about other claims to the "first" same-sex marriage in Texas (see, e.g. this LA Times article and this NBC story about Sarah Goodfriend and Suzanne Bryant). However, this article cites good sources (such as this fascinating Houston Chronicle article, and I presume that the newer stories simply had never heard of Ert and Molina. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 06:16, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm glad you enjoyed the article! I was surprised that this hadn't been covered yet given its notability, but it was definitely fitting for its creation to coincide with Pride Month. TCMemoire 16:37, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Interesting story, on good sources. I don't like the first hook as impersonal. How do you feel about quoting "We marry souls, not bodies." in another ALT? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerda Arendt (talkcontribs) 07:40, 8 July 2016‎ (UTC)





Articles created/expanded on June 28[edit]

Trans Day of Revenge[edit]

Created by EditorE (talk). Self-nominated at 21:17, 29 June 2016 (UTC).

  • YesY Long enough (almost 6,000 characters), new enough (created on 29 June & nominated on same day), and within policy.
  • YesY Hook is short enough, interesting, within policy, and supported by [12].
  • YesY QPQ done.
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Overall, this nomination passes, congratulations. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:03, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I have pulled this one from prep as the hook and article have multiple issues. Firstly, the hook says the album "promotes violent actions" which isn't exactly supported by the sources and is arguably defamatory; secondly, the article repeats this claim, sourcing lyrics that again do not clearly support it; thirdly, some of the other lyric interpretations also smack of original research, and finally, the article needs a copyedit as it contains grammatical and other errors that make it difficult to comprehend. Gatoclass (talk) 13:01, 11 July 2016 (UTC)</noinclude>
    • @Gatoclass: I have fixed the grammer errors that you mentioned were in the article, and comments for approvement of any of my articles is appreciated. However, there are many problems with this comment. For one thing, it doesn't seem you read the sources I cited in the article, which led you to believe the lyric interpretations were original research. The info you described as "original research" is actually text paraphrased from the sources, not original analysis. I'll give you a comparison:
      • Wikipedia article: "several concepts are represented in only one verse, mainly with how the media and even people who are a part of gay communities negatively treat transgender people: "Remember those/Dead and gone/but don't let the media set us up for harm/HRC, selfish fucks/Yuppie gays threw us under the bus.[2]"
      • Source cited: "In the title track she compresses historical and modern indignation into a single verse: “Remember those/Dead and gone/but don’t let the media set us up for harm/HRC, selfish fucks/Yuppie gays threw us under the bus.” In a few seconds, a library shelf’s worth of ideas are touched on: Queer erasure, the particular way in which media tends to flatten the specificities of queer life, the way that even within the queer community, transgender people are treated as inexplicable, illegitimate, politically inconvenient."
    • Another thing is that the hook cited is backed with a reliable source. The article said "Lyrically, Trans Day of Revenge bashes people's pacifism towards state terrorism, transmisogyny and respectability politics in the United States.[3]" The source cited saids "In Trans Day of Revenge, they tear down pacifism in the face of state violence, transmisogyny, and respectability politics" Pacifism means "the belief that any violence, including war, is unjustifiable under any circumstances, and that all disputes should be settled by peaceful means." So basically, the article and source cited said that the album bashes pacifism, or non-violence, towards these issues, therefore promoting violence towards these problems. Even the critical reception mentions the album's main message ("many critics found it as an essential album due to its message of taking violent measures instead of praying for peace.[6][10][12][13][14]"), and the statement in the section is all backed up with reliable sources. I also really don't see how you think lyrics like "When peace is just another word for death, it's our turn to give violence a chance!" don't support what the album is lyricallyf going for. Most of the problems you are stating here are causes of your misreading and for the majority of your argument, aside from the prose errors you mentioned (which there weren't really that many), the fault is on you for misinterpretation of the article. I don't mean to be rude here, I'm just hoping you learn from your mistake here so something like this doesn't happen again. editorEهեইдအ😎 06:35, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, but I'm not at all persuaded by these arguments. To start with, one line in one song from the album doesn't translate to an entire "album which promotes violent actions" per the hook, which gives a very misleading impression. Also, the word "promotes" is highly problematic. And what the sources say do not support your interpretation, for example, one source used to support the claim that the album "promotes violent actions" merely says the album is characterized by "rage and aggression", which is not the same thing at all. Again, being critical of pacifism is not the same thing as "promoting violence". The problem is that both the hook and article are overstating the case, and in ways which the band itself might find very objectionable. And while the band may indeed may be endorsing violent self-defence in certain circumstances, that too is not the same thing as "promoting violent actions" toward any manifestation of "anti-transgender activity" as the hook implies. What is required here, I think, is a little more subtlety of language, the hook and article are currently falling short of that IMO. Gatoclass (talk) 13:10, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Once again, comments are appreciated; at least you explained that "The problem is that both the hook and article are overstating the case, and in ways which the band itself might find very objectionable. And while the band may indeed may be endorsing violent self-defence in certain circumstances, that too is not the same thing as "promoting violent actions" toward any manifestation of "anti-transgender activity" as the hook implies", and I'm happy to provide an ALT hook, but before I do that, I cleary need to provide you with more examples just so I can prove to you that your comment that what "the sources say do not support your interpretation" is beyond incorrect:
Wikipedia: "The record closes with the lines "Not as weak as we seem," which shows how people who work very hard just to survive in society are foolishly seen by many as frail or untenable.[6]", Cited source: "“Not as weak as we seem,” Switchblade yells on the EP’s very last line. On this forceful show of strength, G.L.O.S.S. show the folly in underestimating the resolve of people who fight every day just to stay alive."
Wikipedia: "The lyrics to "We Live" are about a person who shows the pride of being a transgender person and being able to successfully live in a society against people of transexual gender: "We live with trauma locked inside / We fight against the urge to die."[6]" Cited source: On “We Live,” Switchblade howls, “We live with trauma locked inside / We fight against the urge to die,” exhibiting pride in simply surviving a toxic culture that seeks to harm transgender people like her."
Wikipedia: "On “On "Out From The Desk," the singer demands everyone to attack: "Bent ears/Can't be enough/Out from the desk/Let's all crew up/Boot the fucker!”[7]", Cited source: "On “Out From the Desk,” the album’s explicit rallying cry for action, Switchblade calls people to go out and fight. “Bent ears/Can’t be enough/Out from the desk/Let’s all crew up/Boot the fucker!”"
Wikipedia: "The song deals with how the amount of police brutality in society can lead to establishment of who dies and lives, lines including "Killer cops aren't crooked.../they do as they're told," and "Black lives don't matter in the eyes of the law.."[2]", Cited source: "The song describes police brutality and the degree to which this brutality flows from the superstructures that determine who survives in America. “Killer cops aren’t crooked.../they do as they’re told,” she sings. “Black lives don’t matter in the eyes of the law.”
If I need to go any further to show you why the sources support these statements in the article (which I'll be still happy to do), than I think its fair for me to suggest the word "paraphrase" or "reading comphresion" isn't in your vocabulary. I'm gonna have to be rude here for a second; Wikipedia reviewers with this lacking amount of reading comprehension skills and an understanding of how articles rephrase text could be a pretty bad damage for the DYK, GA and especially the FA community or similar, and is probably a good indication to retire from reviewing (it's a joke, this is just a suggestion so please don't take it personally). I'm giving you 24 hours to prove to me why these statements are not supported by the sources. In the meantime, here's an alternative hook:
ALT1 that an album bashing concepts of pacifism towards problems like transmisogyny was released only a day after the June 12, 2016 gay club shooting in Orlando? editorEهեইдအ😎 17:17, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Well, I'm sorry that you appear to have taken offence at some of my comments, and perhaps some of them came across as a little blunt, but sometimes one is obliged to be frank to get the point across. I am still not persuaded by your comments above, and regarding the hook, I have no idea what "concepts pacificism" is and I've never heard the term "transmisogny" before so I don't know how widely it is recognized, so I still think the article needs a more appropriate hook and I still think the article needs a cleanup. I would do it myself, but I don't have the time and energy to devote to it right now. I think what I will do is contact a relevant Wikiproject and see if somebody there can provide some assistance. Gatoclass (talk) 02:48, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Whoops! I meant "concepts of pacificism", good catch! I'll be back soon, guys. editorEهեইдအ😎 07:38, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Comment. I have no experience as a DYK reviewer but would like to offer a couple of general comments. The topic is interesting and worthy of an article (and maybe a DYK), but there are still some issues with the grammar; certain passages seem awkwardly worded, not quite idiomatic. Examples:

  • many critics found it as an essential album"
  • The record closes with the lines "Not as weak as we seem,"
  • A major praise included how the band delivered their message

The first two are easily fixed, but I'm not quite clear on what the third one is supposed to mean. More difficult, but equally important, would be revising the article to remove any hint of OR. I'm not saying there are blatant problems—the sourcing is actually rather extensive, and clearly much effort went into paraphrasing carefully but not closely—but the effect is nevertheless a bit OR-ish. For instance:

  • * The record closes with the lines "Not as weak as we seem," which shows how people who work very hard just to survive in society are foolishly seen by many as frail or untenable.

It is opinion, not fact, that it shows any such thing. If it says so in the source, there probably should be direct attribution; otherwise, the word is problematic. It's a similar thing with "foolishly". The article should summarize what the sources say, but it appears to also be summarizing what the lyrics actually mean, and that's always a risky business. (I also wonder if "untenable" is the right word in the context. That adjective isn't typically applied to people or groups of people.) Rivertorch's Evil Twin (talk) 05:21, 15 July 2016 (UTC)


Nalesoni Laifone, ʻUelingatoni Ngū

Crown Prince ʻUelingatoni Ngū and his grandfather King George Tupou I
Crown Prince ʻUelingatoni Ngū and his grandfather King George Tupou I

Created by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 16:03, 28 June 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg These two articles are new enough and long enough. The image is in the public domain and the hook facts are supported by three sources which I cannot access. The article seems neutral and lack of access to the sources prevents me from checking for copyright issues. To a westerner, the names and titles mentioned in the articles are difficult to understand, so AGF for those too. There is some common text between the two articles, but I do not believe there is sufficient to make ʻUelingatoni Ngū too short. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:28, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 29[edit]

Articles created/expanded on June 30[edit]

AIDS in New York City

Created by Ortiz2028 (talk), Doctorxgc (talk), and Mozucat (talk). Nominated by Bluerasberry (talk) at 01:19, 5 July 2016 (UTC).

  • I'm sorry, but while this article shows a lot of enthusiasm, it still needs a lot of work before it meets DYK standards. Lots of it is about HIV/AIDS in general (not just in NYC) and the timeline, completely unsourced, says lots of things like "X resigned because he distrusted Y". And there have to be better hooks than the above. EEng 21:34, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Alternate hook:"...that a decade of LGBT community protest and activism preciptated the decline of the HIV/AIDS epidemic in New York City after 1994?"--Pharos (talk) 18:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Much better hook, but the article is still bloated with general HIV/AIDS material not really on topic. EEng 22:50, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
It's a question of judgement, but much of the general American HIV/AIDS story, including the medical research aspect, does have a major NYC historical component. It's something that would benefit from a larger discussion and more eyes.--Pharos (talk) 00:07, 14 July 2016 (UTC)










Articles created/expanded on July 1[edit]

52nd Anniversary of Lucha Libre in Estadio de Mexico

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 00:11, 5 July 2016 (UTC).

  •  :* Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The article is neutral and the sources, in Spanish or offline, are not available to me to check for policy issues. I think the hook is a bit misleading as it suggests that the IWRG organised that Veneno should be shaved bald whereas it was the loser of this contest that was required to be shaved. You could substitute "the loser" for Veneno in the hook, but perhaps you would not like this. Could you suggest a different hook? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:55, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Since it is pro wrestling then IWRG did in fact arrange for it, that is the outcome they booked for the match. I thought the juxtaposition of celebrating something by having something humiliating happen to someone was a good way to mix it up a bit and make it more "hooky"  MPJ-DK  11:22, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Do I deduce from your comment that each bout is a show and not a contest, with a predetermined winner and loser? In fact, which competitor is to be unmasked or have his hair shorn off is known in advance? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:29, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
  • In pro wrestling the match outcomes are predetermined yes, the matches are athletic and physical etc but the outcome is planned out. MPJ-DK  15:22, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Having clarified that, this hook is good to go with the present wording. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:04, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

List of major IWRG shows

  • Reviewed: Merv Cowan
  • Comment: The list currently shows 51 events with a lucha de apuestas match where one or more wrestlers lost their mask or had their hair shaved off. Each is individually sourced.

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 15:38, 4 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg This article is new enough and long enough. Searching through the list for "apuestas" brings up more than fifty results (54 I made it) each with its own citation, so the hook facts are cited. The article is neutral and I doubt there are any copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:36, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Red-backed buttonquail, Yellow-legged buttonquail

Yellow-legged buttonquails, female on left
Yellow-legged buttonquails, female on left

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 10:40, 4 July 2016 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting birds, good expansions on few but solid sources. I misread the hook, and others will perhaps do the same. Please think about rewording, - perhaps "leave it to the mates", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:23, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Hmmm... How about
Better, but plural for the males and singular for the females doesn't match well, also "afresh" makes little sense if there was no first breeding (mentioned). I also liked the females as the protagonists ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg perfect, thank you! Image licensed, and would be a good illustration, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:39, 6 July 2016 (UTC)


Frédéric Gounongbe

5x expanded by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 09:53, 2 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Article is both new and long enough. The English citation for the hook does not state that Gounongbe holds a bachelor's degree in international business, only that he studied business. As long as the French citation gives the information it is fine, although finding an additional reference in English would be preferable. I am partial to the second hook; it is more interesting and doesn't have the same sourcing issue. Alexislynn(BYU) (talk) 20:45, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
I used Google translate for the French reference which translated it as: "Gounongbé also graduated with a Bachelor in International Business in Brussels EPHEC." I included the second reference as it mentions he studied a baccalaureate and business but is not specific about it. If that is not solid enough, I'm more than happy to go with the alternate hook in it's place. Thanks. Kosack (talk) 21:08, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Alexislynn fell ill, so I'm happy to finish the review. The article appears to be neutral. It looks like this is Kosack's 5th DYK nomination so QPQ is not required.Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 20:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Rachel Helps (BYU), neutrality and QPQ are important, but you have not commented on whether the newly added information is sufficient to support the original hook, nor have you covered all of the "Within policy" criteria listed above this edit window. Can you please check these in order to complete the review? (The close paraphrasing/copyvio/plagiarism check is especially important.) Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:16, 22 July 2016 (UTC)




Flushing – Main Street (IRT Flushing Line), Norwood – 205th Street (IND Concourse Line)

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk), Kew Gardens 613 (talk), and Tdorante10 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 17:36, 1 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Epicgenius: New enough (articles were promoted to GA), long enough. Hook is cited in each article and interesting (AGF on offline/paywall sources - I kinda like ALT1 wording, but it may be a bit ambiguous). Awaiting QPQ to approve. Raymie (tc) 04:21, 23 July 2016 (UTC)



Cheese soup

Reindeer cheese soup
Reindeer cheese soup
  • ... that the cheese in cheese soup (pictured) adds both flavor and nutritional value?

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:10, 1 July 2016 (UTC).

  • New enough, long enough. NA, sweet or smoked paprika powder? Think carefully. Drmies (talk) 18:36, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Hook verified, etc. Images are properly licensed, but User:Northamerica1000, I'd remove File:Broccoli cheese soup.jpg: it's not pretty and you got enough pixies already. No plagiarism found. Drmies (talk) 18:44, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I like the image, particularly the contrast of dark in the stove area and light inside the pot of soup. Almost mysterious. The coloration of the soup is what it is, since it's a broc & cheese soup. North America1000 01:36, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I have replaced the previous image in place here with the present one. North America1000 08:37, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Just a quick note Northamerica1000; are you sure you want the reference [34], to Myrtle Beach Restaurant News? First, entering the domain name redirects to another page, beckybillingsley.com; and second, the other page at Becky's website has a "file not found" error. I'd recommend simply removing that reference, as you have another reference already for that statement. Kylo, Rey, & Finn Consortium, now featuring BB-8 (talk) 23:53, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Returned from prep for further work, per discussion at WT:DYK. Yoninah (talk) 18:56, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Per that discussion, here are two alternative hooks using other sourced statements in the article.184.147.117.244 (talk) 19:58, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
ALT1... that cheese soup is traditional in America, Colombia, Switzerland and Tibet?
ALT2... that chefs use special cooking techniques to prevent cheese soup from burning?
Re ALT2, I think the concern is not only burning but curdling, which suggests to me another option (that may need article edits but which is true, as I understand:
ALT3: ... that preparing cheese requires curdling, but in preparing cheese soup a bain-marie is often used to help avoid curdling?
I'm suggesting it as an option because curdling is usually thought of as bad, but it can and is used to make things too. I'll drop a note on the nominator's talk page to let her / him know that this has been pulled from prep. EdChem (talk) 13:16, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi EdChem, the article only mentions burning or scorching.184.147.117.244 (talk) 00:04, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
@184.147.117.244: I didn't check, I just suggested something which I know is accurate. A search on cheese soup and curdling will confirm the issue and point to a suitable reference, I believe. If the submitter wants to use ALT3, s/he can make changes. EdChem (talk) 07:16, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 2[edit]

Kino Babylon

Created by Sinuhe20 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:46, 9 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New, long enough, and has some inline citations, but the entire Planning and architecture section has just one inline citation. The hook is fine but not supported with an inline citation in the article. Excused from QPQ. No image. The article itself has many grammatical issues, and these ought to be addressed too. FunkyCanute (talk) 14:06, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello, for the hook I've found now a citation and added it in the article.--Sinuhe20 (talk) 14:53, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
I'll review again once the other fixes that I mentioned are done. FunkyCanute (talk) 21:15, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
The grammatical issues seem now to be fixed by BlackcurrantTea.--Sinuhe20 (talk) 11:34, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


Demersal zone, Spiny-back eel, Whitesaddled catshark, Speckled catshark, Whitenose whipray, Whitespotted grouper

Spiny-back eel
Spiny-back eel

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 10:34, 8 July 2016 (UTC).


El Castillo del Terror (December 2008)

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 23:26, 6 July 2016 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Article was new enough at the time of translusion. I'm assuming good faith on the offline sources however the hook cite (10) is reverting to a not found page. This will need to be corrected. Regards,-- Church Talk 08:58, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

El Gran Destafio (2011)

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 22:34, 6 July 2016 (UTC).

Symbol voting keep.svg Length and history verified. Had to change name of nom since the accent was somehow dropped. Did a bit of c/e Daniel Case (talk) 21:31, 21 July 2016 (UTC)


IWRG Guerra Revolucionaria, Guerra Revolucionaria (2009), Guerra Revolucionaria (2010), Guerra Revolucionaria (2013)

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 21:43, 6 July 2016 (UTC).

IWRG Festival de las Máscaras, Festival de las Máscaras (2008), Festival de las Máscaras (2009), Festival de las Máscaras (2010), Festival de las Máscaras (2013), Festival de las Máscaras (2016)

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 01:20, 6 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Proposing the following ALT1 hook, which may be stretching things with the final long bolded piped link, but does come in at under 200 characters, adds an extra hooky fact at the end, and avoids a two-sentence hook, which I've never seen succeed and besides must have the question mark after the first sentence. (I've also added the space between "..." and "that", and lowercased "that", both of which are also required for DYK hooks.) Unfortunately, there wasn't room to note 2013's championship match. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:27, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
  • that is a good one.  MPJ-DK  06:42, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg These six articles are new enough and long enough. Although there is a certain amount of common material, each has sufficient unique text to qualify for DYK. Approving ALT1 as being cited inline. The articles are neutral and the sources almost exclusively in Spanish and thus difficult to check for copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:17, 16 July 2016 (UTC)


Guerra del Golfo (2005)

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 00:08, 5 July 2016 (UTC).

  • I did not see a good "hooky", non-boring fact they both have in common so I submitted two very different hooks instead.  MPJ-DK  10:55, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I noticed that you're now nominating all those 70 articles individually, which is not what I or other editors recommended. Please consider creating smaller multi-hooks to use up the hooks efficiently. Without reading this article, you could start with:
  • ALT1: ...that the 2005 Guerra del Golfo, the first professional wrestling show to use that name, became an annual show, with installments in 2006, 2007, and 2008? Yoninah (talk) 12:49, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • So what I have nominated so far are the independent ones, easier to come up with hooks for. The Guerra del Golfo are the only two from the same series i put up. I did not try to go.that route since there are shows through 2016, I did not want an arbitrary cut off, but there are too many to link and stay under 200 characters. Trying to balance what people reccomend against what got my original hook rejected (boring) may be too much of a challenge for me to even try to fit 10 aericles in one hook. That is why i put up the easy ones first. Not sure how the multi ones shake out.  MPJ-DK  16:42, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

IWRG Junior de Juniors

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 00:10, 5 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited, the article is neutral and the Spanish language sources did not enable me to consider copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:31, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Rey del Ring (2008), Rey del Ring (2009)

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 00:12, 5 July 2016 (UTC).


El Gran Destafio (2009)

  • ...that the El Gran Destafio show was supposed to help launch Gran Prix Championship Wrestling, but GPCW ended up holding only one show afterwards?

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 21:24, 4 July 2016 (UTC).

IWRG La Gran Cruzada

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 21:23, 4 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The article is neutral, but with sources in Spanish, I was unable to consider copyright issues. The last bit of the hook is incorrect because not all wrestlers are heavyweight. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:33, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Cwmhiraeth: I see what you are saying, Alt1 changes tense to instead of talking about what a potential winner could become to what the actual winner DID become, going from theoretical to specific and thus 100% correct.  MPJ-DK  11:37, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
I obviously failed to make myself clear; it was the "heavyweight" part that I thought inaccurate and would have chosen to replace with "in his weight class" or somesuch. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:19, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
No I got that - I changed it to reflect what the winner actually got, not what they "could have". Article clearly states X-Fly won a heavyweight title match so I made the hook specific. Trying to create a hook to state "whatever weight division" became clunky so I just changed it to look at what the winners actually won.  MPJ-DK  12:25, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

IWRG Guerra de Campeones

5x expanded by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 15:41, 4 July 2016 (UTC).

IWRG La Isla

5x expanded by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 15:42, 4 July 2016 (UTC).

Sin Escape Con Correrás

5x expanded by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 15:43, 4 July 2016 (UTC).

Prison Fatal (2000)

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 15:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC).

IWRG Legado Final

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 15:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC).


Hoi Tong Monastery

The Hoi Tong pigs at feedtime, by Auguste Borget (1838)
The Hoi Tong pigs at feedtime, by Auguste Borget (1838)

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 00:51, 3 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. It is neutral and free from copyright issues as far as I can see. The image of the monastery is in the public domain and I like ALT0, but having found page 177 of the cited source, I see that the pigs were not "sacred", but were kept to show respect for animal life. I thought of "revered", "respected" or "venerated" for the hook, but none of these seems quite right. You may be able to think of something better. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:38, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
    Thank you for the review and hope it was an interesting topic. That said, the first OED definition of "sacred" apart from the exclusively Christian senses is "dedicated, set apart, exclusively appropriated to some person or some special purpose" which fits these pigs just fine. Since that's true, I'm not going to emend it at all, but you're the reviewer—you're welcome to just nix the word (which might make it more compelling), review another hook, or (although this is probably impossible on the internet) realize you were mistaken in your initial impression. — LlywelynII 13:30, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg OK then, I can see that the definition of "sacred" is a bit wider than I had thought, so this is ready to go with ALT0 and I will strike the other hooks. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:39, 17 July 2016 (UTC)


Please note that THIS LINE is the end of the Hoi Tong monastery review and whatever is going on underneath it is an entirely different issue.


  • User:EditorE, thanks for your message, edited the hook, to show that Port Harcourt was part of the Eastern Region, Nigeria at the time she was born. Also included a license tag to the image in the article. As for review, would love to but the rule says editors who haven't made up to five DYK nominations, shouldn't review yet. Stanleytux (talk) 22:31, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Why EditorE? she was born in Port Harcourt, a city that currently exists which was a part of the Eastern Region of Nigeria that is already defunct. Don't understand why we should take away the living part and leave the dead part, that fact from the dyk, when it is the best part of the dyk. Also, Priscilla Nzimiro's father was Port Harcourt first mayor. That's another Dyk for another day. Stanleytux (talk) 00:07, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm not saying to just "take away the living part and leave the dead part" and I'm not putting her father in my point. I'm saying that the article saids "She was the first woman from the Eastern Region, Nigeria to graduate as a medical doctor," and that the DYK hook is more general and stronger if we say she was the first doctor from a BIGGER PLACE than if we say she was the first doctor from a smaller part of that place. editorEهեইдအ😎 01:02, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Hello Editor, hope this is not too late, I found out that what really existed as a region during her birth until her death was Igboland and not the Eastern Region, can this mistake be corrected? Stanleytux (talk) 02:03, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Hello @EditorE:, I'm still waiting for your response. The Eastern Region, Nigeria was created during 1960. Nzimiro died 10 years before that. However, Eastern Region, Nigeria was created from Igboland, which Nzimiro was a part of. This fact is already covered in the sources, hence, hoping that this correction will be made before this Dyk hits frontpage to avoid complications. Stanleytux (talk) 07:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Sorry for such a late response. You can change the hook if you want, just make it another ALT. The article's still passed for DYK. :) editorEهեইдအ😎 08:04, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The hooks are not accurate. The source cited merely states "she was the first woman doctor to work in the Igbo region of Nigeria", so a new hook is needed. (@Stanleytux: - you have misinterpreted the DYK rules; anyone is allowed to do reviews, but someone with five or more DYKs is required to do one for each article he nominates). Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:19, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Hi @Cwmhiraeth:, the hooks were actually derived from the two book sources Igbo Women and Economic Transformation in Southeastern Nigeria, 1900-1960 and Gender, culture and development : essays in honour of Hon. Dame Victoria N. Akanwa. Thanks for your clarification on the Dyk guidelines. It is only her university website that says she worked in Nigeria. Stanleytux (talk) 06:22, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
In that case, you need to add some extra citations for the part of the sentence "... and became the first woman from Igboland to qualify as a medical doctor." Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:36, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Extra citations added, @Cwmhiraeth:. Thanks.


Articles created/expanded on July 3[edit]

Bluebuck

One of four existing bluebuck skins, Vienna Museum of Natural History
One of four existing bluebuck skins, Vienna Museum of Natural History
Head of the Vienna skin
Head of the Vienna skin

Improved to Good Article status by Sainsf (talk), FunkMonk (talk), and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen (talk) at 14:00, 3 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Images formatted into template. Yoninah (talk) 10:23, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is a newly promoted GA and is long enough and nominated in time. I have struck ALT2 as being a bit trivial but the other two hooks are acceptable, with inline citations for the hook facts. Both images are appropriately licensed and I prefer the head. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:04, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Michael Wynn-Jones

5x expanded by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:13, 3 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is a fivefold expansion and is new enough and long enough. Any of the hooks could be used, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:23, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

The Martian (film)

Ridley Scott
Ridley Scott

Improved to Good Article status by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 12:52, 3 July 2016 (UTC).

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Articles created/expanded on July 4[edit]

Leptodactylus pustulatus

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 08:31, 7 July 2016 (UTC).

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  • Symbol confirmed.svg. Grudgingly, because this is possibly the most boring DYK hook I've ever seen, but looking at the article there's nothing more obvious that jumps out at me. The paper referenced for the hook is behind a paywall, but the cited fact is included in the abstract so no issues there. The "copyvio" spotted by the bot is The International Union for Conservation of Nature has assessed its conservation status as being of "least concern", a phrase which can't easily be reworded so I wouldn't consider as problematic. GTG. ‑ Iridescent 16:59, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
FYI, parental care is exceedingly rare among amphibians, so this is really exciting! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:40, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Sure, but the casual readers on the main page neither know nor care; from the viewpoint of someone with a decent knowledge of animal behaviour but who knows nothing about frogs (a group I imagine roughly correlates with "the entire population of the world minus a few thousand people") "parents have been observed looking after their children" is roughly equivalent to "bears have been observed shitting in the woods". (Add to that that the one piece of frog parental behaviour casual readers are likely to know is the sequence from every single "wonders of nature" show ever made, of the mother frog incubating the tadpoles in her mouth, so I imagine that those who have thought about such things assume that amphibians are if anything more nurturing than other animals.) Note that I'm not opposing this—I can't see any obvious alternative—I just think it will prompt a "who cares?" reaction. ‑ Iridescent 15:29, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Unlike Iridescent, I am opposing this: it is simply not an interesting hook, and thus does not qualify for DYK. Even the wording, with its "seems to", adds to the problem. If this is "really exciting", then there should be a way to convey this excitement to the reader. I've struck the original hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:25, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
For lack of anything else, I think the rate of calls is interesting. — Maile (talk) 23:34, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


In a Persian Market

Cover of the sheet music
Cover of the sheet music

Converted from a redirect by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:00, 4 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough. Long enough. Image suitable for main page. NPOV. Earwig and spot checking found no close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations or plagiarism. Article is well-cited, except for the hook fact itself (oops!). Hook is interesting. QPQ done. Edwardx (talk) 00:23, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I doubled a few refs, but don't know if that is what you mean, - the source is Hyperion, which I didn't want to paraphrase too closely, so the terms appear in different locations in the article. As it's also what the image shows anyway, we might perhaps go for something else:
ALT1: ... that Albert Ketèlbey's Intermezzo Scene In a Persian Market (cover pictured) is available in a collection of historic recordings of light music for orchestra?
I couldn't easily find out when and by whom that particular piece was performed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:26, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The image is in the public domain, and I prefer the original hook (which I have twiddled around a bit) whether or not the image is used. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:35, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


Samiun dan Dasima

  • ALT1:... that Samiun dan Dasima (1971), which featured explicit sexuality, garnered an award for best child actor?
  • Reviewed: Paul Kanoa

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:43, 4 July 2016 (UTC).

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  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg This article is regarding an extant film, and the plot summary (paragraph two/three) is cited to the film itself.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:05, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg This article is new enough and long enough. Both hooks are cited to an offline source and are accepted in good faith. I have added the word "scriptwriter" to the original hook. The article is neutral and I was unable to check for policy issues because the sources were unavailable to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:18, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

The Aachen Memorandum

Created by Smerus (talk). Self-nominated at 14:32, 4 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Referring to this novel as a "printed source" is out of bounds for a hook. I'm sure there are clever ways to intrigue the reader, but this isn't it. EEng 04:41, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Look, I'm the last person to throw cold water on a winking hook, but we there's no hint in there by which the reader will be clued in that this is a fictional "report" of actual LPs being arrested. (If the hook said "were arrested in 2017" that would be different, IMO.) You need to say (or imply, somehow) that this is fiction -- again IMO. EEng 15:18, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Well I think you're being a bit too tough now; after all the italics signify something is going on - and the hook is literally true. Your point about '2017' [had it been the case] is interesting, as then the hook would not be as ambiguous - but it might also lose some of its pulling power. Seems to me ALT1 meets the profile of a 'winking' hook acceptably but I'd be glad to see other editors' opinions -@Cwmhiraeth:, @The Rambling Man:, @Gerda Arendt:, @The C of E:, @Gatoclass: - you all participated and took different sides in a recent not dissimilar discussion....- Smerus (talk) 15:51, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
I agree with EEng that stating this in a way that does not clearly identify it as counterfactual within the hook itself is a BLP violation. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:09, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Mendelssohn is dead, which makes all the difference, and the grandiosity and oddity of "recommending The Destruction of Jerusalem" is just enough to put the reader on alert. You could say,

ALT2 ... that in the fictional Aachen Memorandum Michael Gove, Matthew d'Ancona and Iain Duncan-Smith get arrested in 2016 as members of an Anti-Federalist Movement?

Another possibility is to introduce additional material signaling this is fiction, though I'd be interested to hear from others whether they think this is enough to overcome the BLP problem (I think it is):

ALT3 ... that in The Aachen Memorandum William Mountbatten-Windsor (son of the late Charles III of the United Kingdom) is king of New Zealand and Michael Gove, Matthew d'Ancona and Iain Duncan-Smith get arrested as members of an Anti-Federalist Movement?

The present tense also helps signal that this is a fictional narrative. EEng 20:46, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Thanks for this - I would be happy with ALT3 then - best, -Smerus (talk) 22:26, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Where shall I send my bill? EEng 22:36, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
I am in Ukraine next week, if you meet me I will buy you a coffee at the Milk Bar in Rustaveli St. in Kyiv. - Smerus (talk) 08:36, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
Darn! By the time I saw your kind invitation I'd already left Ukraine. Next time, perhaps. EEng 22:08, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Hold on. ALT3 is (by my count) 245 characters long, well past the 200-character limit. Can we get something like it that meets the hook length requirement? —David Eppstein (talk) 23:54, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Those darned royals and their drawn-out names and styles!
ALT3A ... that in The Aachen Memorandum William Mountbatten-Windsor (son of Charles III) is king of New Zealand and Michael Gove, Matthew d'Ancona and Iain Duncan-Smith belong to an Anti-Federalist Movement?
(197) EEng 00:36, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
  • BUT!!!! You miss out the arrest, which is the most fun - and in the book it's 'the' (not 'an') Anti-Federalist Movement....therefore, adieu Matthew d'Ancona and.....
ALT3B ....... that in The Aachen Memorandum William Mountbatten-Windsor (son of Charles III) is king of New Zealand, and Michael Gove and Iain Duncan-Smith are arrested as members of the Anti-Federalist Movement?-Smerus (talk) 08:14, 9 July 2016 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on July 5[edit]

Fresno kangaroo rat, San Quintin kangaroo rat

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 11:27, 9 July 2016 (UTC).

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  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, (now) long enough, adequately sourced, with the hook claims properly sourced. Interesting-enough hook, within length bounds (especially for the double nomination). QPQ done. No copyvio found. Good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 04:50, 16 July 2016 (UTC)



The Face (EP)

Created by EditorE (talk). Self-nominated at 20:50, 6 July 2016 (UTC).

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Marco Antonio Mena Rodríguez

Mena at the announcement of his candidacy for Governor of Tlaxcala
Mena at the announcement of his candidacy for Governor of Tlaxcala

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:52, 5 July 2016 (UTC).

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Articles created/expanded on July 6[edit]

Mondongo (collective)

Blonde Teenie Sucking, 2004
Blonde Teenie Sucking, 2004
  • ... that Mondongo's Black Series ("Blonde Teenie Sucking" pictured) used cookies and crackers to recreate pornographic images from the internet?
  • ALT1:... that the Black Series by Argentinian art collective Mondongo ("Blonde Teenie Sucking" pictured) used cookies and crackers to recreate pornographic images from the internet?
  • Reviewed: Leptodactylus pustulatus
  • Comment: I have a slight preference for leaving out "Argentinian art collective", as I think "who or what is Mondongo?" will pique readers' curiosity and lead to more readers, but have included ALT1 as an alternative. ‑ Iridescent 17:11, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Created by Yngvadottir (talk). Nominated by Iridescent (talk) at 17:11, 10 July 2016 (UTC).

  • ALT2:... that the Argentinian art collective Mondongo, which uses unusual materials in its works, is named for a Latin American tripe stew? Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 00:35, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Long enough, new enough, within policy. The hook is fine and supported with inline reference, but is it too provocative to appear on the front page? Another reviewer to confirm, please. QPQ done. The image is free to use and appears in the article. FunkyCanute (talk) 12:39, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
  • It's quite clearly a picture of a blowjob, which is nice, but might offend some people. Hence looking for another opinion. None of your comparisons fall into x-rated territory. FunkyCanute (talk) 19:48, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Here's where we ask ourselves why Wikipedia is blocked on computers in public schools. Is this in Wikipedia's best interest to be put on its front page? Individuals are free to make dirty pictures if they like, by all means, but they seem to think this entitles them to crap in everyone's front yard, with zero consideration for children. Welcome to the world of arrested development. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.197.66.117 (talk) 00:09, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

    • Symbol confirmed.svg There has been a week for comments, and no one has objected, so we will take that as consensus. Hawkeye7 (talk) 06:15, 22 July 2016 (UTC)





Jorge Triana Tena

  • Reviewed: Kyle Holbrook
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5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 20:53, 6 July 2016 (UTC).

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  • Symbol voting keep.svg I agree with Raymie that this article should qualify for DYK as a complete rewrite of an article that someone had misguidedly expanded in Spanish. With this in mind, the article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts have inline citations and the article is neutral. The sources are in Spanish so I was unable to check for close paraphrasing. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:59, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Federico Döring

  • Reviewed: That's In Queensland
  • Comment: There were no inline citations or references on this article prior to being edited, thus I'm considering it a BLP expansion (2x)

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 20:08, 6 July 2016 (UTC).

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Audition (1999 film)

  • ... that Audition has been described as an influence on "torture porn"?

Improved to Good Article status by Andrzejbanas (talk). Self-nominated at 17:10, 6 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough (Article was promoted to Good Article status on 6 July 2016), long enough (20,441 characters "readable prose size"), fully referenced. Hook fine, verified against online source. AGF on offline ALT1 hook. ALT2 hook verified against offline source. No QPQ done. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:14, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Dog Star Adventure

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 6 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg A very fun and interesting read!, even though I'm not a fan of text-code games like this. I'd complain that the "Basis for later games" section is a bit Guide-ish. However, it is actually important to include this given that this is how all text-based games would be programmed later on, and this is the first known text-based game, so it makes sense. No possible copyright violation, QBQ checks, article is cited with reliable sources and well-written. Looks good to go. editorEهեইдအ😎 20:44, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
Any preferences on the hooks? Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:36, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
I'd say choose the first one since its the strongest and the other three aren't in the article? editorEهեইдအ😎 20:26, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
Works for me! Maury Markowitz (talk) 21:43, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I came to promote this, but I cannot find the hook fact in the source cited. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:29, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
@Cwmhiraeth: The cite is right in the lede. Cite #1. Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:34, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
I see the cite and I have read the source cited twice now but it does not support your hook; it states that this game was written in Basic and that the source code was printed in the magazine, and it states the source code was an inspiration to other game text writers. It does not state that it was the "first" text adventure game to be published in source code form. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:45, 18 July 2016 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on July 7[edit]

Tokushima-Kōchi at-large district

5x expanded by Athomeinkobe (talk). Self-nominated at 04:06, 13 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New enough, long enough, with interesting hooks that are cited to Japanese sources (must AGF). QPQ present. Good to go; any chance this can be put up sometime in July to use the more interesting first hook? Raymie (tc) 05:23, 23 July 2016 (UTC)


Abrothrix longipilis

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 19:46, 10 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Hook cited to a UC Press field guide. Expansion recent. QPQ done. No copyvio and good length. All else checks-out. GTG. (Per a recent decision in ANI, this nomination requires two reviews.) LavaBaron (talk) 02:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Confirm LavaBaron's review, all points. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:22, 12 July 2016 (UTC)


Nicolae Cristea (priest)

  • …. that Father Nicolae Cristea was personally disliked by his bishop, who withheld his salary for months after he was released from prison?

Created by Biruitorul (talk). Self-nominated at 17:53, 9 July 2016 (UTC).

Weaves (EP)

Created by EditorE (talk). Self-nominated at 00:23, 9 July 2016 (UTC).

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        • The copyvio result is wrong, it only identifed quotes and names of people. editorEهեইдအ😎 06:50, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
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Times Film Corporation v. City of Chicago

  • ... that the United States Supreme Court held for a time that municipalities could censor movies based on content?

Created by DaltonCastle (talk). Self-nominated at 22:25, 8 July 2016 (UTC).

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Ok, so from my understanding, I need to remove some of the quotations, yes? DaltonCastle (talk) 03:42, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
I made a handful of copy edits to redact over-quotation, and the Copyvio percentage is at !8%. I would like to point out that most of the remaining Copyvio flags are for the terms "United States Supreme Court", "First and Fourteenth Amendments", and "Time Films Corporation v. City of Chicago". DaltonCastle (talk) 17:41, 12 July 2016 (UTC)




Julián Nazar Morales

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 20:31, 7 July 2016 (UTC).

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In the Blue of Evening

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk) and Miyagawa (talk). Nominated by Miyagawa (talk) at 12:07, 7 July 2016 (UTC).

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  • I think it actually added your signature as it's not expecting hooks to be signed. There is less confidence in the processing of the alts than in the main hook as the formatting is much more variable; however the exact count matters less than whether it's over 200. Intelligentsium 21:58, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


Hernán Orantes López, María Elena Orantes López

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:38, 7 July 2016 (UTC).

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Articles created/expanded on July 8[edit]

Juil ciego, Mexican blind brotula, Blind swamp eel

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 09:05, 12 July 2016 (UTC).


PSLV-C2

Model of PSLV-C2 launch vehicle
Model of PSLV-C2 launch vehicle

5x expanded by AKS.9955 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:51, 10 July 2016 (UTC).


María Ávila Serna

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 00:27, 9 July 2016 (UTC).

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Good Vibrations

  • ... that "Good Vibrations" was recorded over a dozen sessions at four different Hollywood studios, requiring over 90 hours of magnetic tape?

Improved to Good Article status by Ilovetopaint (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 04:43, 8 July 2016 (UTC).

  • ... that "Good Vibrations" was the most expensive single ever produced in its time, requiring over 90 hours of recorded tape?
or
I prefer the second, since it establishes much more notability. --Ilovetopaint (talk) 06:05, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
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Articles created/expanded on July 9[edit]

Common paradise kingfisher, Biak paradise kingfisher, Numfor paradise kingfisher

Common paradise kingfisher
Common paradise kingfisher

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 08:52, 14 July 2016 (UTC).

Klein's line

Klein's line in a normal hip
Klein's line in a normal hip

5x expanded by Mschamberlain (talk) and Wuerzele (talk). Nominated by Wuerzele (talk) at 17:04, 13 July 2016 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg 5x expanded on July 8th and long enough and neutral. It would be nice if some of the sources used the cite journal template, but that's my personal preference and not required for DYK. The information in the hook is in the pubmed source, assuming that 2009 is recent enough to be still used today. I don't see a QPQ though--did either of you review a DYK recently you could use for the QPQ? Also it looks like the image comes from an education website; I can't tell if their material is copyrighted but I would assume it is--do you have more information on its copyright status? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:12, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Rachel I never took the allowed self nominations without review that one can start with, maybe one or two? point me to where QPQ is checked/accounted for. the other person was the stub creator, not expander - I dont know how to delineate that in the template that asks for creator/expander. Re copyright: look at the image file and see for yourself the info I uploaded: It is NOT COPYRIGHTED. Copyrighted files dont survive on WP. Here is the exact email I received :
Quia Support <help@quia.com> Jul 11 at 4:04 PM
To user wuerzele
Thank you for contacting Quia.
Content the is created on Quia is considered in the public domain, so you are free to use that particular image.
If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to help.
Sincerely,
Randy, Quia Support, help@quia.com
I hope this helps.I have no idea how to fix the image format in the DYK template and was hoping for suggestions.Wuerzele (talk) 01:05, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. If you 5x expand an article for DYK, I don't think you have to credit the original page creator.
I did look at the image file--I just didn't see the same information on the Quia website. Thanks for providing that additional information.
For QPQ, usually there's a spot in the template to link to the name of the article whose DYK nomination you reviewed. In Template:NewDYKnomination it's the "reviewed" parameter--you write the name of the page there, and it links to it so a reviewer like me can view the page's DYK nomination to verify. If it's one of your first five DYK nominations, it's not required, but there isn't an easy way that I know of to see that. Is this one of your first 5 DYK nominations, or have you reviewed another DYK nomination? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:04, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg I looked at your contribution history and I understand what you're saying now about the DYK nominations. It looks like this will be your third? So QPQ is not required. Thanks for contributing to DYK! Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:10, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Ana María Boone Godoy

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 23:05, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

Kielce Ghetto

Ghetto liquidation
Ghetto liquidation

Created by Poeticbent (talk). Self-nominated at 13:58, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

Konye

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 09:52, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Date, expansion and hook all OK. The only issue with the hook I may see is the hook and article put burping in quotation marks but that to me is a minor cosmetic statement and I think it is more hooky without (though original review will stand if others decide to include them). QPQ done. No close para. Good to go. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 18:06, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Edward Buehrig

Created by LavaBaron (talk). Self-nominated at 20:46, 9 July 2016 (UTC).

  • per a decision at ANI, this nom requires two reviews LavaBaron (talk) 20:47, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
  • per that same decision, this nom also requires two QPQs, of which one has been submitted. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:40, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks, DYKReviewBot. I've fixed the length issue now. LavaBaron (talk) 00:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg [1 of 2] @LavaBaron: New enough, long enough, double QPQ present. However, a direct cite for the Italo-Yugoslav Boundary Commission item is not in position at the end of the sentence. Raymie (tc) 04:21, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg second review (first needs to be completed to make this go). Support what the bot and Raymie said, + it's long enough now, and the citation is behind the fact. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:39, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

The Family Jewels (Marina and the Diamonds album)

Marina and the Diamonds
Marina and the Diamonds

Improved to Good Article status by The Almightey Drill (talk). Self-nominated at 18:55, 9 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Technically this should say 'reportedly made' as the claim is self-reported, however, I don't think it's worth belaboring. The article has been improved to GA status, the hook is cited to what appears to be reasonably RS for a music article. All other criteria are met. GTG. (Per a decision in ANI, this entry requires two reviews.) LavaBaron (talk) 20:44, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Rereviewing this. The article is a newly promoted GA and is new enough and long enough. The hook fact is cited but I would prefer ALT1, which I have added, because she made the statement herself (and I doubt whether anyone was actually counting). The image is properly licensed, the article is neutral and it seems to be free of copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 20 July 2016 (UTC)



Goodwillie–Allen House

Created by Orygun (talk). Self-nominated at 06:40, 9 July 2016 (UTC).

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Francisco Saracho Navarro

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 03:54, 9 July 2016 (UTC).

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  • Symbol confirmed.svg Bot review confirmed: This is new enough, long enough, and well sourced enough (including the hook source), with no copying or close paraphrasing detected (indeed that would be difficult to do since all sources are in Spanish and the main one has tables of data but no significant text). QPQ done. I find the hook source quite interesting — I was unaware that Mexico even had a wine industry, despite living within easy driving distance of it, until I visited two of their wineries last spring, so I think a hook that emphasizes that information, as this one does, is a good choice. Good to go. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:46, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Adriana Terrazas Porras

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 01:59, 9 July 2016 (UTC).

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  • Symbol question.svg Almost there, but these two parts lack citations. They are "In 2001, she made a failed run for the state congress; after she lost, she went back to the city as Director of Municipal Commerce." and "she had to ask for license to temporarily leave the Chamber of Deputies to do this". Cite these two and I will pass this. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:50, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Done. Those items were mentioned in existing sources (SIL and Tiempo). Raymie (tc) 03:56, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
@Raymie: I see. I'm happy to say that I am passing this. Symbol confirmed.svg Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:58, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Proposals for concerted operation among the powers at war with the piratical States of Barbary

Created by LavaBaron (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 9 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg It doesn't look all good to me. There's nothing in this article about Spain & Denmark proposing a joint force in 1800. There is a mention of Sweden & Denmark making such a proposal, but there is no immediate citation, only one at the end of the section two sentences later. Additionally the reviewer hasn't done a proper full review. Bcp67 (talk) 19:47, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I was watching the news about the Jesus Gamez trade to Newcastle when I wrote this and it came out "Spain" instead of "Sweden." Fixed. LavaBaron (talk) 15:43, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
  • On it. Symbol possible vote.svg Timely; long enough (~2.5k elig. chars.); the hook's cite is behind a jstor paywall but taken on good faith; no copyvio issues; QPQ done... but you need a new hook. The article being linked is about Jefferson's proposal, which came decades before the Dano-Swedish idea being mentioned by the hook. May I suggest something involving Jefferson, the pirates, or identic notes (which is interesting to discover the name for)? In the alternative, you could restructure the article and move it to something focused on the Dano-Swedish proposal. — LlywelynII 13:34, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, you want me to rewrite the article so it focuses on the hook? Is this type of suggestion within the bailiwick of DYK review? In any case, you've made 45-percent of the total edit lines [14] to the article so, unfortunately, aren't eligible to review it. While I appreciate your effort, we should probably make sure this is done by-the-book given the recent cultural preference for letter-of-the-law at DYK. Gracias! LavaBaron (talk) 15:29, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
  • As a side note, I know it's not necessary but with something this terse that's in the public domain, it'd be nice to copy the text over to Wikisource and link it. Also, the article is in the wrong place, but I can fix that. — LlywelynII 13:50, 14 July 2016
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Previous secondary reviewer was an active editor on article. Out of a preponderance of caution, an uninvolved secondary reviewer is needed. LavaBaron (talk) 15:38, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
    It's fine to get a third opinion and give me an editing credit (you haven't done that so far but certainly aren't just trying to game the rules to avoid my comments), but no regardless of any of that nonsense you can't have a hook completely divorced from the WP:SCOPE of the article. You can rewrite the hook or the article. Obviously the hook is easier. — LlywelynII 13:21, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg No, actually we can have any hook we want as long as it's cited in the article and is interesting. There are no WP:SCOPE requirements in the reviewing guidelines. Thanks for offering an interesting perspective, though. Feel free to give yourself whatever credit you like, on my behalf and with my blessings. In the meantime, uninvolved reviewer needed. LavaBaron (talk) 01:17, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg It'd be nice if another reviewer or admin could point this out to you so you stop taking it personally but, no, the article and the hook have to abide by Wikipedia policy. One of those is WP:SUBMARINE: you can't say that your article is about a Dano-Swedish naval alliance and link to an article on an entirely separate American diplomatic note decades earlier. You're welcome to come up with some other hooks or just take a pass on this one. As is, you're failing the "within policy" aspect of the review. Hell, if I'm being treated as a creator for having cleaned up the article, I don't mind coming up with alternative hooks on my own. I was just giving you a chance to come up with something else you were interested in or, if the Dano-Swedish alliance really is the only interesting part for you, to write an article on that. — LlywelynII 04:37, 23 July 2016 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on July 10[edit]

Dulzura kangaroo rat

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 10:41, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough and expanded more than 5x yesterday (from 240 characters to 2616 characters). Hook fact is cited in the article and interesting. No copyvio detected. QPQ also done, so it's good to go. Dee03 12:10, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


1917 United States declaration of war on Austria-Hungary

Meyer London voted against war with Austria
Meyer London voted against war with Austria

Created by LavaBaron (talk). Self-nominated at 16:57, 10 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Hello Worm That Turned. I am replying to your message left on my TalkPage here and your comments up. Firstly, this edit shows when the article was created on 8 Jan 2016 and then page move was performed. Now how are we treating such cases? As far as the lead section is concerned, the DYK guidelines say "A rule of thumb for DYK is a minimum of one citation per paragraph, possibly excluding the introduction, plot summaries, and paragraphs which summarize information that's cited elsewhere". Although it can be interpreted in two ways, I am chaining the review for this point. As far as sourcing hook it concerned, this is strange, last time I opened the links, the ODNB link did not open up after several attempts and now it does and I can read it. So I guess we are good there now. So that leaves us with only one open point, date of article creation. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 19:17, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
  • AKS.9955, the page move you reference in [15] is from a User talk subdirectory to a User subdirectory, so the article is still not in article space at that point, and thus not yet officially created. This move, on July 10, is the one that took it from User space to article space, and thus the one that counts as the moment of creation for DYK purposes. (Which means the nomination was correctly placed under July 10 on the DYK nominations page.) You might want to try running DYKcheck; it gives the same date regarding the move. Finally, there is no requirement anywhere that the DYK nomination be mentioned on the article talk page. It might be nice to have, but most people don't do it, and it's absolutely not required. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:03, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
  • BlueMoonset, thanks for clarifying. I know that there is no requirement that DYK nomination be mentioned on the talkpage and that's why I just mentioned it against a green tick mark and did not insist for it.

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  • Symbol confirmed.svg, In view of the clarification above, giving green tick mark to the DYK nomination. Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. Hook ok and properly sourced. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 05:01, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Director General of Indian Coast Guard

Created/expanded by Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk). Self-nominated at 15:27, 10 July 2016 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Some issues found

  • This article is old and was created on 13:05, 26 June 2016 (UTC) and expanded till 29 June 2016.
  • Readable prose is less than 1,500 characters.
  • Article contains appropriate citations.
    • One citation per paragraph.
    • Sources are properly labelled. However, it should be under the reference section.
    • Reference do not have bare URLs.
  • Pending maintenance tag.
  • Possible plagiarism issues.
  • Hook is properly sourced. However, the hook is not interesting enough as to a neutral reader, it does not tell why is this "first" a big deal.
  • QPQ done. This is nominator's first DYK nomination.
  • Note. Nominator had placed the DYK under wrong date (10 Jul 2016). DYK nomination should have been filed under the date article was created or expansion started (whatever is later).

Nominator to address these issues. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 17:34, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: @AKS.9955: Yes, the article has been created a draft initially, so I was unable to submit it to the DYK. It has accepted yesterday by Tavix by deleting the previous redirect of the article. So I submitted it yesterday. And regarding the copypaste tag you have put on the article, there is copypaste detected by Copyvios detector 1 and wholly it shows 18.0% and violation unlikely; they are the names of the Director Generals. As per the hook, generally in any a coast guard officer is expected to head the force, but in Indian Coast Guard, an Indian naval officer of Vice Admiral rank is deputed to head the Indian Coast Guard. But Rajendra Singh is the first coast guard officer to be the Director General Ref. KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 02:44, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

  1. Date of creation: Ok.
  2. Copy-paste: Lets understand what the issue is. You have take text with slight changes from here, changed it a bit and inserted in the article. For example, the website uses phrase like "At CGHQ, he is assisted by four Deputy Director Generals of the rank of Inspector General, and other senior officers heading". The article uses exactly the same third person narration. Let's be clear, if there was a copyvio, I would have tagged the article for deletion and not for clean-up. Kindly resolve the issue.
  3. Prose length needs to be resolved.
  4. Hook: I understood what it meant. As I said earlier, "hook is not interesting enough as to a neutral reader, it does not tell why is this "first" a big deal". Please reword it and make it more explanatory. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 05:24, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment: @AKS.9955: I have fixed the issues as far as possible and as per the hook; generally in every coast guard throughout the world, an officer from the same service will head the service, but it is different in the Indian Coast Guard. Until now only officers from the Indian Navy are deputed to head the coast guard. But this is the first time that a coast guard officer is appointed as the Director General. KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 14:17, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
@AKS.9955: Could please take time to review it? Regards, KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 14:14, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


List of destroyers of the Indian Navy

INS Kolkata, the lead ship of Kolkata-class destroyers
INS Kolkata, the lead ship of Kolkata-class destroyers

Created/expanded by Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk). Self-nominated at 14:54, 10 July 2016 (UTC).

John J. Coit, Long Beach and Asbury Park Railway, Eastlake Park Scenic Railway, Venice Miniature Railway, Urbita Lake Railway

John J. Coit shows his locomotive
John J. Coit shows his locomotive
  • ... that John J. Coit, who built and operated miniature railways, died when his locomotive ran into a cow?

Created by NearEMPTiness (talk). Self-nominated at 08:17, 10 July 2016 (UTC).

Carmen Salinas

  • Reviewed: James Nightingale (Hollyoaks)
  • Comment: A reviewer with expertise on Mexican film may be able to expand this significantly beyond my ability. Probably one of the most famous current federal deputies! And there were no sources here when I began working on this!

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 05:45, 10 July 2016 (UTC).

Antigonid–Nabataean confrontations

Created by Makeandtoss (talk). Self-nominated at 00:48, 10 July 2016 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 11[edit]

Leonard Haigh

  • ... that Leonard Haigh's mechanical knowledge kept him from the front line in WWI, but he died from pneumonia instead?

5x expanded by FunkyCanute (talk). Self-nominated at 12:47, 12 July 2016 (UTC).



Yulma Rocha Aguilar

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 23:54, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

Óscar García Barrón

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 22:43, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

Arturo Santana Alfaro

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 21:56, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

The Question Jury

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 19:39, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

Red House Museum

Red House Museum
Red House Museum

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Storye book (talk). Self-nominated at 17:15, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg @Storye book: BLP expansions, as their name implies, are for biographies of living people with no sources. (I don't think this house is a living person.) You will need to expand the article 5x. I think you need 2,980 characters of readable prose but you only have 2,092. Additionally, a QPQ is necessary. The expansion is new enough, on the other hand. Raymie (tc) 22:41, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Withdrawal of nomination: With much regret I shall now have to withdraw the nomination. Since I began expanding it, the article has received several long series of unhelpful edits involving repeatedly removing an entire (balanced and fully reffed) paragraph, repeatedly introducing wrong information, and here and there a few typos. It is impossible to work on an article when you have to spend most of the time correcting another editor's mistakes. In the circumstances I don't think I can get this article to the required standard for DYK and keep it there so long as this article is subject to repeated heavy interference and reversions. Storye book (talk) 07:17, 13 July 2016 (UTC)


Post-truth politics

Created/expanded by Smurrayinchester (talk). Self-nominated at 15:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

List of frigates of the Indian Navy

Created/expanded by Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk). Self-nominated at 13:31, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

Vidal Llerenas Morales

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 07:03, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

Jericó Abramo Masso

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:40, 11 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Long enough (>5x expansion), new enough, within policy. All paragraphs have refs; all refs appear to be RS. No apparent close paraphrasing. Interesting hook; its length is fine. No images to review. QPQ done. GTG. Thanks for expanding the stub. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:39, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 12[edit]

Spotted wood kingfisher

Spotted wood kingfisher
Spotted wood kingfisher

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 10:17, 16 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article newly expanded and is fully cited. I can't find the original hook expressly cited, but I can find the Alt1, and I think that's the better of the two hooks anyway. QPQ completed, spot checks are clear. Good to go. Miyagawa (talk) 14:49, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. One might have expected a kingfisher to catch fish but this one obviously doesn't. I have struck the original hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:41, 16 July 2016 (UTC)



Herman Cornejo

  • ... that dance critic Joan Acocella called Herman Cornejo, who is only 5 feet 6 inches tall, “the most technically accomplished male ballet dancer in the United States”?

Moved to mainspace by MajoLavandera (talk) and FourViolas (talk). Nominated by FourViolas (talk) at 04:35, 13 July 2016 (UTC).

No problem, according to User:Cullen328. FourViolas (talk) 02:47, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Sandra Méndez Hernández

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 03:50, 13 July 2016 (UTC).

Victor Milner

5x expanded by Amgisseman(BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 22:39, 12 July 2016 (UTC).

John Boyle, 15th Earl of Cork

Created by Editor FIN (talk) and The C of E (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 18:15, 12 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough. Long enough (just). Earwig and spot checking found no close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations or plagiarism. NPOV. Hook is interesting enough and cited. All paras cited. QPQ done. Edwardx (talk) 22:24, 12 July 2016‎ (UTC)


Tomás Ruiz González

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 08:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC).

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Raúl Domínguez Rex

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 07:39, 12 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg The article was nominated in a timely fashion (right after the 5x expansion). Seems to be neutrally written and QPQ is done. The source supporting the fact is written in Spanish and since I don't speak it, I am assuming good faith. FrB.TG (talk) 15:58, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Alfredo Bejos Nicolás

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 07:11, 12 July 2016 (UTC).

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History of East Texas State Normal College

ETSNC president Randolph B. Binnion
ETSNC president Randolph B. Binnion
  • ... that East Texas State Normal College president Randolph B. Binnion (pictured) asked prospective faculty members whether they danced and whether they belonged to a church?

Moved to mainspace by Michael Barera (talk). Self-nominated at 03:59, 12 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg No issues found with article, ready for human review.
    • This article is new and was created on 03:41, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
    • This article meets the DYK criteria at 11435 characters
    • All paragraphs in this article have at least one citation
    • This article has no outstanding maintenance tags
    • The probability of copyright violation is 6.5%. (confirm)
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  • No overall issues detected

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Articles created/expanded on July 13[edit]

Peters's squirrel, Flat-headed myotis, False canyon mouse, Chamula mountain brook frog, Sierra Juarez brook frog, Tamaulipas pygmy owl, Oaxaca mud turtle

Oaxaca mud turtle
Oaxaca mud turtle

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 08:05, 17 July 2016 (UTC).

  • DYK checklist template
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg The 7 articles pass DYK checklist for 5X expansions. Image in Commons is good. Enough QPQs have been done. Hook source verified. GTG --Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:12, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


Church of the Jacobins

The reliquary of Thomas Aquinas in the Church of the Jacobins
The reliquary of Thomas Aquinas in the Church of the Jacobins

Created by Awien (talk). Self-nominated at 17:07, 15 July 2016 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg It is long enough, new enough. However, the nominator, User:Awien has still not reviewed another DYK.
Also, I assume it is this category on commons, why not add some pictures?
And finally, the references are "raw", instead of, say:
<ref name="architecture.relig.free.fr">http://architecture.relig.free.fr/toulouse_jacobins.htm</ref> try:
<ref name="architecture.relig.free.fr">[http://architecture.relig.free.fr/toulouse_jacobins.htm Couvent des Jacobins de Toulouse, Historique]</ref>
Huldra (talk) 20:47, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for this, Pong ball in flight.svg Huldra:
This being my first DYK (except for a submission I quickly aborted years ago) I believe I'm exempt from QPQ.
Pictures would be fabulous, and yes, that's the place. However, I don't know how, I'm just a gnome - I rely on the fairies.
Re raw refs, I'll try to figure out how to fix those within about the next 12 hours.
If any of this is a deal breaker, I'll just withdraw the nom. Not worth a huge hassle.
Cheers, Awien (talk) 00:59, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Well, I've tried to fix the refs and can't, and don't have the first clue about pictures so that's not going to happen. The Jacobins is a genuinely significant church that somehow didn't have an article which is why I created one. If there are people who would like to fix its shortcomings that would be wonderful, even if that makes it ineligible for dyk. Cheers, Awien (talk) 11:52, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Fixed refs, I think (the one that was the problem). Thanks for tip, Chrisrus. Awien (talk) 12:55, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
User:Awien I think it would be a great pity if it did not become a DYK; as you say: it is a very notable building. However, I have just edited the article (a little), and I therefor don´t think I should be the one to OK it. Could someone else please review it? Huldra (talk) 13:09, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Wonderful! Grand merci! (The Palmier too would leave me eternally in your debt . . . ). Best, Awien (talk) 13:23, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
User:Awien: The Palmier?? Huldra (talk) 13:28, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
The feature they're most proud of, this: [16]. But I don't see it on Commons, alas. Awien (talk) 14:54, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
User:Awien Actually, that link contains a picture...taken from commons! (Now added to the article.) And common have a whole sub-cat for it, cheers, Huldra (talk) 15:38, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Pong ball in flight.svg Huldra: Great! And I really appreciate your help. Bien amicalement, Awien (talk) 17:02, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
User:Awien: a pleasure to help, I really hope it will make a DYK. (But it needs a new reviewer now). This source is still problematic, though: it looks like a blog, which is usually not acceptable; could you find a replacement? Huldra (talk) 20:18, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
I've taken out "unique" (who cares anyway), and substituted the Encyclopédie Universalis as the ref. Awien (talk) 22:02, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


Variegated squirrel

Boy with variegated squirrel
Boy with variegated squirrel

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 10:42, 14 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Currently there is no citation or body text about possible human fatalities from the bornavirus.--Kevmin § 15:11, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
I have added some more text to the article. Perhaps my hooks were too definite, so what about:
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg *Citation added so I dont have any more contention on it, but WP:Med is out side my area of understanding so I will pass the rest of the review off. sorry. --Kevmin § 13:19, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
Having consulted at this page, I have struck the previous hooks and propose


Pablo Bedolla López

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 04:37, 13 July 2016 (UTC).

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Articles created/expanded on July 14[edit]

Eine romantische Suite

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:20, 21 July 2016 (UTC).

No. 75 Wing RAAF

Improved to Good Article status by Ian Rose (talk). Self-nominated at 11:37, 19 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, hook is interesting and sourced. No close paraphrasing or neutrality detected. Passed GAN a week ago. QPQ done. I think the word 'appointed' is preferable that the word 'brought' and reconsidering the arrangement of words and other wording which makes the hook; ... that an officer appointed to investigate Vultee Vengeance accidents at No. 75 Wing RAAF, got crash-landed himself while in a Vengeance when he left?. Besides that everything seems fine. Regards, KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 15:14, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Actually I hadn't got round to the QPQ but have now. I definitely agree "appointed" but one doesn't "get" crash-landed so I don't think we should use that. The "himself" was to highlight the irony but I guess we can lose it if it reads oddly. See how the new version looks... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 16:35, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks for considering the word 'appointed' instead of 'brought'. Initially while reading the hook I had some sort of confusion, which is common to any general reader who don't that Vultee Vengeance is the name of an aircraft. The clause crash-landed in a Vengeance on his return? is also somewhat confusing. in a Vengeance is the issue, generally the word Vengeance gives the meaning of punishment or revenge. Please reword that i.e something like clarify the it is about an aircraft or something like that. Apart from that everything is good. Regards, KCVelaga ☚╣✉╠☛ 12:14, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


James Nguyen

Nguyen in 2010
Nguyen in 2010

Converted from a redirect by MatthewHoobin (talk). Nominated by Bobamnertiopsis (talk) at 02:49, 16 July 2016 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, Review Conditions met, sources looks good. However, the wording of the hook could be a bit better.
Additionally, I am just getting back in to editing so if someone more experienced me could get a second look it would be much appreciated. Thanks --Church Talk 05:15, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

I updated the page from a redirect to an article, so I thought perhaps I might throw my two cents/ten thousand dollars into the discussion:

I think this phraseology is a bit better for the trivia, since it states clearly where the money went to. –Matthew - (talk) 18:24, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg Much better phrasing then mine. Good to go! I think I'm going to go watch this movie now. --Church Talk 18:40, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Manuel Espino Barrientos

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 04:31, 15 July 2016 (UTC).

Tower Branch

  • ... that Tower Branch runs near a tract of land home to nine Species of Special Concern in Pennsylvania?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 23:29, 14 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Hook is cited to a reputable organization that appears to, itself, be cited in media reports as such. New and minimum length requirements met. No copyvio. All other criteria okay. GTG. (As per a decision in ANI, this nomination requires two reviews.) LavaBaron (talk) 20:50, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I support the article criteria, but would like to know if it's intentional that the hook is silent about Tower Branch being a river? The species (which I boldly linked) come rather unexpectedly for a reader who thought it's part of an organization ;) - If unwanted, it could be repaired by "runs" instead of "is", for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you for changing "is" to "runs", - support LavaBaron's review, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

José Ignacio Pichardo Lechuga

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 21:03, 14 July 2016 (UTC).

  • I guess I'd find that interesting if I had any idea who J.I.P.L. is. EEng 20:38, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Hadley Field

First night airmail service
First night airmail service
  • ... that the first transcontinental night airmail service (inaugural event pictured) was established at Hadley Field?

5x expanded by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self-nominated at 19:08, 14 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is 5x expanded within permitted time to 5,127 chars from 220 chars. It is long enough, neutral, and cites sources inline. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports almost no copyvio issues. The hook is well formatted and interesting. Its length is within limit, and its fact is sourced inline. QPQ was done. The image is ©-free. Everything is fine. Good to go. CeeGee 18:14, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

María Isabel Maya Pineda

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:36, 14 July 2016 (UTC).

  • YesY Expanded enough (239 chars to 2364 chars), nominated soon enough (expanded & nominated on 14 July), and article is within policy.
  • YesY AGF on [17] (as it's in Spanish), but hook is short enough and interesting enough.
  • YesY QPQ done.
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Overall, this nomination passes, congratulations. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:54, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

José Alfredo Torres Huitrón

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:13, 14 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Cabinet members and former mayors often have sons, so why is this interesting? Who's J.A.T.H.? EEng 20:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
  • @EEng: Keeping in mind that Torres Huitrón's district is centered on Ecatepec...
ALT1:... that José Alfredo Torres Huitrón is the son of a former mayor of Ecatepec de Morelos, the city he represents in the Chamber of Deputies? Raymie (tc) 01:02, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

K.R.T. Girls

the K.R.T. Girls
the K.R.T. Girls

Created by Satellizer (talk). Self-nominated at 03:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough and QPQ is done. No copyvio detected. It's a pass. White Arabian Filly Neigh 20:49, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 15[edit]

Segne dieses Kind

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 07:47, 22 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Just about long enough at 1644 characters. New enough as created on July 15. Within policy. No obvious copyvio, plagiarism, close paraphrasing issues identified. Hook formatted correctly, short enough, cited inline. QPQ provided. Cowlibob (talk) 08:08, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

San Blas jay, Purplish-backed jay

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 09:24, 20 July 2016 (UTC).

  • What's a group? EEng 20:41, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Well, these are social birds living in small groups, which I guess may or may not be closely related to each other. Can you think of a better word? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:17, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
"members of their social groups"? (Or maybe, "It takes a village"?) EEng 14:17, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
OK, how about:-
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:09, 22 July 2016 (UTC)


David Bowie's art collection

  • ALT1:... nearly US$13m of art from David Bowie's private collection will go up for auction later this year?
  • ALT2:... David Bowie was an avid art collector, and a portion of his collection worth over US$13m will be auctioned later this year?

Created by 87Fan (talk). Self-nominated at 22:46, 15 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article is not long enough. It's basically a list of artists represented in the Bowie collection plus a short piece of prose measuring 1,022 characters. Hook facts not immediately cited. This looks like it needs a fair bit of work to be decent enough for DYK. Bcp67 (talk) 11:18, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Lercanidipine

5x expanded by Anypodetos (talk). Self-nominated at 15:24, 17 July 2016 (UTC).

Palais de la Méditerranée

Palais de la Méditerranée
Palais de la Méditerranée

Created by Rosiestep (talk) and Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 04:43, 17 July 2016 (UTC).

  • I'm all for clickbait, but ALT0 seems a rather tonedeaf attempt to tie something relatively mundane to a current horror. EEng 21:29, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Hello, EEng#s, no worries... If ALT0 is not your cup of tea, please consider ALT1 or come up with another option as Dr. Blofeld and I are open to that. Thank you, --Rosiestep (talk) 00:27, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Voltaire P. Twombly

Voltaire Twombly
Voltaire Twombly

Improved to Good Article status by Spirit of Eagle (talk). Self-nominated at 06:13, 16 July 2016 (UTC).


Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - Add a citation immediately after hook
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Add a caption to image Makeandtoss (talk) 13:07, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

I've added an inline citation, and placed a caption on the image.Spirit of Eagle (talk) 06:15, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:06, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Kate Claghorn

Kate Claghorn, circa 1912
Kate Claghorn, circa 1912
  • ... that a 1923 book by Progressive Era activist Kate Claghorn (pictured) has been called "the one significant contemporary study of the immigrant and the American legal system"?

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self-nominated at 05:03, 16 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Newness, length and article quality are all fine. QPQ done, no copyvio issues found, image is PD. The only reason for my question mark is that I think it would be better to have statement attributed within the article to the authors ("eg Allerfeldt and Black (2003) described this book as ..." and the hook altered slightly to "has been called" instead of became, to make the origin of the quote clearer. January (talk) 10:16, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Ready to go. January (talk) 19:36, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Henri Negresco

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self-nominated at 21:30, 15 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg I couldn't access the Washington Post article that is cited as the source for part of the hook but it is widely reported elsewhere (eg here). The founding checks out to another ref and is interesting enough for a hook. Article was created 15 July and exceeds 1500 characters. Sources I could access (Arfin, Gubler & Glynn, Strouse, Galante) check out, AGF on the remainder and the Romanian language reference. No close paraphrasing noticed from the English language sources. QPQ carried out, image used in article is free. Nice article on an interesting character, thanks. Looks good to go - Dumelow (talk) 09:46, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment - had the author gone beyond travel guides (!) as a source, she would have found that the Gypsy violinist father story is most likely a myth. His father was, in all likelihood, a Jewish merchant. Also, people born in Romania in 1868 weren't usually named "Henri Alexandre Negresco", but, as is the case for our subject, Alexandru Negrescu. And their mothers weren't called "Mary" but Maria. It's all in the Historia article, which really ought to have been consulted. Ah, and the move to Paris seems to have taken place in 1895 - while Tănase is an entertaining enough raconteur, that site of his is basically a blog. - Biruitorul Talk 23:07, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the review, Dumelow.
  • Hello, Biruitorul. I'll try and improve the article with the Historia.ro ref (Romanian language) you've linked to, but if I get the translation wrong, perhaps you can correct my mistakes? In any case, thanks for pointing me to it as, of course, I like to get things right. And, of course, you can improve the article yourself; I don't mind sharing "credit" at DYK... I welcome it. Cheers, --Rosiestep (talk) 23:50, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Hello again Biruitorul. I've c/e the article and added new content using the Historia.ro ref. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:16, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I'll see what I can do, but in the meantime, many thanks; and no, credit won't be necessary because my overall contribution will probably be quite light. - Biruitorul Talk 03:15, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your work on this Biruitorul, I didn't do much looking into the Romanian sources as my knowledge of the language is nil. I don't like to rely on Google translate too much, especially as it seems to mangle the text in these cases. I don't think the use of travel guides is too much of a porblem in an article like this, which is essentially focused on a hotel. I see now the majority of references are to the Romanian history site in any case - glad you were able to provide the linguistic expertise to improve this article. In any case I think it is still good to go - Dumelow (talk) 07:03, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

National Coalition Against Legalized Gambling

Created by Amgisseman(BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 20:00, 15 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The hook is cited to a RS and appears in that source. The hook correctly uses quotes removing issue of copyvio, which is neither present elsewhere in the article. Newness is fine (from a previously deleted article) with minimum length met / exceeded. All other criteria are met. This would not pass GA in its current form: (1) there is some concern about the quantity of primary sources used as reference, (2) there are not categories, (3)there is inconsistency between present and past-tense. However, it's okay for DYK. (as per ANI, this nomination requires two reviews) LavaBaron (talk) 20:45, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg @Amgisseman(BYU): New enough, long enough, QPQ present. Hook is cited and interesting (though I can't read all of the source). Again, the tense issue is a little confusing (does this organization still exist), and there's also a need for categorization, but that should not impede a DYK here. Raymie (tc) 05:48, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
  • The organization became part of the Stop Predatory Gambling Foundation in 2008. The founder of NCALG became a field agent for Stop Predatory Gambling when they merged/partnered (I wasn't able to find all the details on how that actually happened). So technically NCALG doesn't exist anymore. But I tried to add a little more information to the article to help that come across better. Thanks! Amgisseman(BYU) (talk) 18:46, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Sixth borough

  • ... that a proposed sixth borough in New York City has been referred to as "LoLo" and "Frankenborough"?

Created/expanded by MainlyTwelve (talk). Self-nominated at 02:20, 16 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Redirect conversion that is new enough and long enough. No QPQ needed (first nomination!). Hook is cited and interesting (those references are made in the sources). Article is very well sourced and even includes nice images. An impressive first DYK! Raymie (tc) 05:51, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Blake Martinez

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Church (talk) and Gonzo fan2007 (talk). Nominated by Church (talk) at 05:36, 17 July 2016 (UTC).

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on July 16[edit]

Akıncı Air Base

5x expanded by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 18:26, 22 July 2016 (UTC).

Margaret Jarman Hagood

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self-nominated at 20:19, 19 July 2016 (UTC).

  • ALT1 ... that Margaret Jarman Hagood worked on calibrating standards of living across different regions of the United States? EEng 05:02, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Aryness Joy Wickens

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self-nominated at 21:53, 18 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Everything looks good, but I only have one question on the hook:
    • 1) New enough (created 2 days before DYK) and long enough. The only thing I see here and that's more a MOS issue is the non-unified date format in the references. A copyvio check shows only hits on the proper office names, so looks good there. Sources look fine.
    • 2) The hook is fine (hook fact is verified) but I wonder if it might be better to move the "in 1954" to after the highest-paid part, (eg "was the highest-paid woman in the US civil service in 1954?") since it is as of that year that she was the highest paid (one could read that to say of all time which obviously is not the cast)
    • 3) QPQ is fine, there are no images on the page to worry about.
  • Just need to verify the hook's language but otherwise should be ready to go. --MASEM (t) 16:43, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Sure, I have no problem with moving the "in 1954" clause to the end. As for my reading of MOS:DATEUNIFY: it appears to me to say that publication dates should all be the same format (here Month DD, YYYY) and that access dates should all be the same format (here YYYY-MM-DD) but not that those two formats need to be the same as each other. See the second example under "Access and archive dates". As for the different placement of dates in different references: I'm just using the citation style 2 templates (CS1 would be the same), and that's what they do. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:00, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Ah true, that is allowed. But as noted, only a MOS issue, not a DYK-passage issue. If you're fine with the ALT I added above, then I'll mark this ready. --MASEM (t) 19:10, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg per ALT from discussion above. --MASEM (t) 19:10, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Triplemanía XXIV

  • ... that just over four months after Pagano began working for AAA, he will main event Triplemanía XXIV, the company's biggest show of the year?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mark Bonner
  • Comment: Made his AAA debut on April 8, show is held on August 28. I believe simple calendar math is acceptable if I have a source for debut date and show date, but not a date specifically stating "just over four months"? Note, he had a one-off, "try out" match in 2015 but was not actually under contract until April 2016.

Created by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 11:59, 17 July 2016 (UTC).

Alejandra Barrales

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 00:00, 17 July 2016 (UTC).

Italian Parliament (1928-1939)

  • ... that under a 1939 law enacted by the Italian Parliament, politicians would be required to fight in "front-line units" in the event of war?

Created by LavaBaron (talk). Self-nominated at 18:21, 16 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Comment Removed the second "Italian", as it seems redundant. Edwardx (talk) 21:15, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I've struck ALT0 because the source by no means says that with anything like clarity. Aside from there being nothing to indicate that this bill was enacted into law, the phrases "privilege of being called to arms" and "drafting" are ambiguous at best.
ALT1 ... that in 1938 the Italian Parliament's Chamber of Deputies "committed long-awaited suicide"?
I'm also somewhat concerned that so much of the article is cited to contemporaneous sources rather than retrospective, especially since at least one of the sources used speaks with a touch of amusement. EEng 17:20, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Statcast

  • Reviewed: IOU

5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk) and ScribbleNote (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 18:14, 16 July 2016 (UTC).

Lincoln Enterprises

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 14:57, 16 July 2016 (UTC).

  • What staff? And the source apparently says that a security guard said this to someone -- not sure that should be presented as straight fact. EEng 19:14, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
  • As the article says, film editor Don Rode. However, I didn't feel this was needed for the DYK hook since that name would be unknown to Trekkies and non-fans alike. Would this alt be better:
Miyagawa (talk) 19:35, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
  • How about
ALT2 ... that when a third-season Star Trek film editor sought old footage for reuse in an upcoming episode, he was told that Lincoln Enterprises had transported it out of the storage vault?
I wouldn't link to both the season and the overall series -- one is enough. EEng 19:46, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Works for me. Striking the first two. Miyagawa (talk) 20:32, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Battle of Cana

Created by Makeandtoss (talk). Self-nominated at 13:07, 16 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I can only see sources 1 and 3, neither of which support "his demoralized army fled and died from starvation in the desert", which is referenced to 3. Johnbod (talk) 18:11, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Fixed source 2. Makeandtoss (talk) 19:24, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Ok, now I can see all 3 sources, I'm wondering where "Although the balance of the events in the battle was tipped towards a victory for the Seleucids, Antiochus was slain by an Arab soldier during combat and the battle became a decisive Nabataean victory." comes from. The first bit is also repeated in the article, and not very idiomatic English, so might be dropped. Johnbod (talk) 02:20, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Its in the second source. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:26, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
That says they were "set to win" the campaign, until the battle. Not the same. Johnbod (talk) 10:46, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
"Killed in action" makes it sound as the campaign. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:55, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
No that sounds like the battle, given the other sources. But this source (2) doesn't mention the battle at all, just the campaign, so you can't source the dramatic turn-around in the battle the article describes to her. Johnbod (talk) 01:38, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
Fixed issues. Makeandtoss (talk) 18:16, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
@Johnbod: Makeandtoss (talk) 08:59, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Tapestry Folkdance Center

Created by Bobamnertiopsis (talk). Self-nominated at 06:43, 16 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Hook is fine, article length and age are ok, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, sources are reliable enough. All good to go. Stanleytux (talk) 10:43, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Thanks for the review but I still need to complete a QPQ before this can be approved. BobAmnertiopsisChatMe! 15:53, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Seen already...good job. Stanleytux (talk) 08:02, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

President of Lebanon

Created by LavaBaron (talk). Self-nominated at 03:44, 16 July 2016 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The hook is supported by two references: www.usip.org/... and www.loc.gov/.... No picture was used at the time of checking this article. The paragraph about "Vacancy" ("During periods of vacancy, the authority and responsibilities of the president are vested in the council of ministers in corpore.") is not yet supported by a reference and has thus been temporarily hidden in the article by the reviewer.

I, personally, think that the article is ready to go, but apparently a second review is needed, according to a descision by WP:ANI for any articles of this author. The second nomination apparently counts also regarding WP:QPQ, as the author mentions that he has done two QPQs. NearEMPTiness (talk) 11:04, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Louis Victor Plessier

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 09:57, 16 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Primary hook approved, cited to source in French which does not make quite this unambiguous claim but also to a second offline source which we GF suppose does. ALT-1 hook has no citation and is not approved. Copyvio, length, and newness okay. Final sentence is uncited but is accompanied by a photograph we accept as citation of the existence of the street. All other criteria met. GTG. (As per a decision in ANI, two reviews of this nomiantion are required.) LavaBaron (talk) 18:17, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the review LavaBaron. You are right about the second hook, I have struck through. I had a quick look for a source but it is surprisingly difficult to find, though of course the street itself is indisputably there. Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 07:43, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Sweetbitter

Created/expanded by MainlyTwelve (talk). Self-nominated at 16:10, 19 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Created 17 July, prose size 2154 characters, hook and content sufficiently cited, no identifiable plagiarism, neutral prose, no outstanding conflicts, interesting hook, author has not had a DYK previously. Good to go. —swpbT 13:08, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 17[edit]

Kyle Murphy (American football)

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Church (talk). Self-nominated at 16:13, 19 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Long enough after twofold expansion, new enough, sources check out fine, hook cited, QPQ provided, good to go. Zappa24Mati 02:54, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Silvery-throated jay

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg 5x expansion within time frame, well-written, long enough. Hook good and provided with source. QPQ done. Good to go. Yakikaki (talk) 19:53, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


Yona Knight-Wisdom

  • Reviewed: Sydney McLaughlin
  • Comment: According to [18], the first round of his event is 15 August, so can this nomination be run on that date?

5x expanded by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:34, 18 July 2016 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg 1723 characters (282 words), 19.4% copyvio are basically quotes. Other than that good to go. Donnie Park (talk) 19:29, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Gospel of John

  • Comment: Open to other ideas for the hook; this was the first thing that came to mind but I think there's room for improvement in the "interesting" department.

Improved to Good Article status by Jujutsuan (talk) and Cerebellum (talk). Nominated by Jujutsuan (talk) at 19:22, 17 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg - it's not appropriate to say that it contains no parables, as that is evidently a matter of opinion and dispute: the article says "Most scholars consider John not to contain any parables... Some scholars, however, find some such parables in the Fourth Gospel..." StAnselm (talk) 00:28, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
@StAnselm: I believe ALT1 solves this issue. Jujutsuan (Please notify with {{re}} talk | contribs) 01:22, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Yes it does - the problem is that it makes it even longer, and it is far too convoluted for a hook. StAnselm (talk) 01:53, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Now that you mention it, you're right. Do you have any other ideas? Jujutsuan (Please notify with {{re}} talk | contribs) 02:00, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Yes, it's better to stick to factual claims, rather than scholarly opinion - even if that is approaching a consensus. This doesn't have a reference in the article yet, but how about...
StAnselm (talk) 03:11, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I like that a lot, and I just added refs for it. But I would rephrase it like this:

or
Jujutsuan (Please notify with {{re}} talk | contribs) 03:36, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Date and length OK. I am going to approve ALT4 as the original is a bit wordy and as for the other ALTs, just because John didn't include it doesn't mean we shouldn't. QPQ done, no close para. No image. Good to go. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 07:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The ALT4 hook is not cited inline. Several paragraphs under Comparison with the synoptics and Representations lack at least one citation, per Rule D2. There are also a few tags on sections, but I don't think they are a problem for DYK eligibility. Yoninah (talk) 13:42, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Actually the 2 citations do support ALT4, but the phrasing of the article content was ever so slightly off so as to obscure that. I've corrected that. I'll get on the rest of the citations soon. juju (hajime! | waza)

Amanda Weltman

Created by Vanamonde93 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:24, 17 July 2016 (UTC).

Symbol confirmed.svg The article is new enough (moved from user space) and long enough. Well referenced and neutral (removed the bit about her being "well known" in favour of "known"). Also struck known from one of the hooks and South African from the first for brevity. No pic to review. I have taken the liberty of adding Justin Khoury into the first hook in order that I may approve it as it needs to make clear she was the co-author of the paper. I don't like the Alts either. Hook is correctly formatted. I detected no copyvios or close paraphrasing apart from scientific phrases and the awards section where it would be expected. AGF on the interpretation of the scientific content. It's good to go with the first hook. I am open to a better wording of the hook if anyone sees one. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:30, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Philafrenzy; I'm okay with the addition; you're right that it's important. I would rephrase it as follows, however: do take a look. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:14, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Steven W. Carabatsos

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 12:43, 17 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Comment: I think Ellison used the phrase "took a chain-saw to it" as a figurative expression; I doubt Carabatsos actually cut the script with a chainsaw. Miyagawa, if you really want to use ALT1, perhaps we can put the phrase "took a chainsaw" in quotation marks? -- Notecardforfree (talk) 07:34, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
  • I've added the quotations - that was an oversight. Miyagawa (talk) 20:35, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Sydney Hobart Ball

  • ... that while prospecting for minerals in the Belgian Congo, Sydney Hobart Ball's party came under attack and the resulting clash, which claimed 130 lives, became known as "The Battle of Ball's Run"?

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 07:39, 17 July 2016 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 18[edit]

Madagascan buttonquail

  • ... that the male Madagascan buttonquail is largely responsible for incubating the eggs and caring for the young?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 08:02, 21 July 2016 (UTC).

L.A. Woman

Improved to Good Article status by TheGracefulSlick (talk), Ritchie333 (talk), and Curly Turkey (talk). Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk) at 14:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg I loved reading the article! Excellent sources. Why not the Doors'? The first hook seems not exciting, or is it just me? The second is quirky, but low-key. What do you think of using "Morrison [was a blues enthusiast and] proclaimed the final recording session as 'blues day'"? - I was bold and started "Biography", - how about converting to harv? - Revert if you don't like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)


Qabatiya

5x expanded by Huldra (talk), Nableezy (talk), and Davidbena (talk). Nominated by Huldra (talk) at 20:24, 19 July 2016 (UTC).

  • All info appears to be cited with reliable sources, no copyvio is possible, nominator has reviewed another article, no major writing errors except for one thing: "12the century CE", Do you mean "12th" century? editorEهեইдအ😎 16:36, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
  • User:EditorE: Absolutely! Thanks for spotting that, and I have fixed it now, Huldra (talk) 17:39, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Your welcome, article is 5x expanded and was expanded four days ago, so therefore its new enough. Yep, article looks ready to go. editorEهեইдအ😎 17:56, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Skin gambling

Created by Masem (talk). Self-nominated at 20:32, 18 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Wow. I like to think of myself as a Young Person who is With the Times but then I read stuff like this and realize how quickly things get weird when you're not paying attention. This article does a good job tackling this bizarre niche, even for novice readers (read: me, etc.). New enough (July 18), long enough (11,048 characters), offers neutral and broad coverage, well cited throughout, one possible instance of copyvio but the source is a YouTube video that more likely copied the article's content and not vice versa, hook 156 characters, interesting, cited in Bloomberg ref and in article. @Masem: QPQ still needed, otherwise ready to go. Good work! BobAmnertiopsisChatMe! 06:16, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
    • QPQ check started. --MASEM (t) 16:46, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

List of accolades received by Room

5x expanded by Cowlibob (talk). Self-nominated at 20:11, 18 July 2016 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg 1928 characters (317 words), 4.8% copyvio and many others including QPQ. Good to go. Donnie Park (talk) 19:19, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Celestia Taylor

  • ALT1:... that Celestia Taylor accompanied local professors on their lecture circuits to sing and read poetry?
  • ALT2:... that Celestia Taylor won the last world-wide LDS Church chorus competition in directing both a women's chorus and the men's chorus?
  • Reviewed: Klein's line

Created by Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 19:49, 18 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg I'm going with ALT2 as it is particularly interesting. Article was just created yesterday and is more than long enough for DYK. QPQ has been provided, and hook has no bias. The reference's text is too small to read on my own, though I will assume good faith as it seems credible. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:06, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Remi Sonaiya

Remi Sonaiya, 2011
Remi Sonaiya, 2011
  • ... that Remi Sonaiya (pictured) is Nigeria's first female presidential candidate?

Created by Oluwa2Chainz (talk). Self-nominated at 17:51, 18 July 2016 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New article, long enough, first nomination of user so no QPQ required, hook checked out and interesting and important topic. No apparent copyvios. However, the image is non-free and hence I have nominated it for deletion. Also, the article lacks more info about the election. Means maybe her campaigning or publicity or at the very least the results of how many votes she got and lost by what margin or something such. Just a single line that she contested is odd. Please expand that. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {