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French and Pondicherry[edit]

French is an official language of Pondicherry. You can read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pondicherry

Non availability of languagewise population figures[edit]

Still we are unable to know the language wise population of India as per census in 2001.When can we see these figures ? -Noorbasha Rahamthulla, Visakhapatnam.

Is gondi official language?[edit]

http://rajbhasha.nic.in/8thschedulehin.pdf

This official document doesnot show gondi as official language. Does any body knows the truth?

http://www.constitution.org/ What kind of authenticity this site has..Is this a Gov of India site?

I have seen that old nic site has given a link "National Languages" which says that there are 22 national languages in india... Your second site speaks about only Raj basha (official language).It need not have references about national language http://rajbhasha.nic.in/dolruleseng.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.162.132.54 (talk) 12:22, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Anti-English POV?[edit]

Well, let’s check it: almost all (if not all) the websites of official Indian state governments and Indian central government are primairly in English; English is the official language of the capital territory of Delhi, 7 states and 3 territories (being the sole official language in the states of Arunachal Pradesh, Nagaland and Sikkim). Many Indian universities use English as a way of instruction. And many business, too. In any part of India, we can see billboards advertising in both Hindi (or local language) and respectively in English. Court proceedings are in English, as the same way that many parliament discussions and resolutions.

So, why it seems the article as the way it is written now wants to downplay the role and the importance of English (saying many and many times that “English is not the official language of India”) as the main language of all India together with Hindi? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.232.230.231 (talkcontribs) 18:46, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

The contributor who seems to be downplaying the importance of English seems to be driven by a misguided sense of patriotism. Even though patriotism might be considered a laudable attribute in certain circles, I would like to bring to the kind attention of the said person the principle that in the context of an encyclopedia, truth/facts shall take precedence over opinion(s).Anonymus1984AD (talk) 19:02, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

There seems to be a downplaying of the usage of English in this article, while there are several documents available suggesting that English is one of major languages spoken in India [1]. While, it is okay to be patriotic, the essence of an encylopaedic reference is for the rest of the world not to be meant for reflecting personal preferences of misguided patriotism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Showmethedoor

References

Archives[edit]

Is there any reason the archives for this page begin at /Archive 3 rather than /Archive 1? And can it be fixed? It's messing up the Archive box. -- Arvind (talk) 22:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Sigh... I thought I could fix this by a few moves - I moved /Archive 3 to /Archive 1 and /Archive 4 to /Archive 2, but I've since hit a wall because it seems I can't move over redirects. Essentially, these pages need to be moved:
And the counter in the Miszabot template needs to be changed to "5" from "7". If an admin is watching this page, could they please do the needful. -- Arvind (talk) 23:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Done, Arvind. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 16:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Maharashtra[edit]

Maharashtra abloished Enlgish long ago. Only Marathi is the official language now. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 13:54, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Or have they unofficially abolished Marathi? I heard one minister taliking about making Hindi as the official language of maharastra state. Hindi is killing the Marathi language (in the same way as it killed so many other north Indian languages). And the irony is that the Marathi people are unaware about it. They are busy chasing the UP and Bihari people. Marathi film world is dead. Slowly other areas will follow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.88.164 (talk) 19:39, 14 August 2009 (UTC) Shut the anti-hindi crap please. Ministers mostly are un-aware of things they themselves say... --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 18:38, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

expansion proposal[edit]

I propose to add a "Official Language Policy - Origin and evolution" section detailing the Constituent assembly debates on language, the first official language commission (Kher commisssion), its report, the Pant parliamentary committee, its recommendations, Nehru's assurances of 1959&1963 and the official languages act of 1963, tamil nadu anti hindi agitations of 1965, Shastri's assurance of feb 65 and its codification by the amendment of 1967. I added this material to Anti-Hindi agitations of Tamil Nadu and i think it also belongs here. question is how much should be added and where it should be added. any suggestions?--Sodabottle (talk) 04:10, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

sounds like a relevant proposal. go for it. am sure u will receive enough support and opposition. --CarTick 04:49, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

just wondering[edit]

dont know the history as to why this article was created in the first place. though, i believe, it can be merged with Languages of India. --CarTick 21:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


Related topics[edit]

The suggestion to merge it with languages of India is worth considering. Also since so much is being talked about the constitution and the language the constitutional provisions regarding linguistic minorities also needs to be talked about, including the role of Commissioner for Linguistics Minorities

K N Unni (talk) 11:30, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

asif bugti — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.183.187.64 (talk) 07:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

urdu official in west bengal[edit]

http://zeenews.india.com/news/west-bengal/urdu-declared-official-language-in-bengal_767905.html

http://m.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/official-language-status-for-urdu-in-some-west-bengal-areas/article3274293.ece/

http://news.oneindia.in/2012/04/03/urdu-declared-official-language-in-west-bengal.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.63.143.27 (talk) 08:39, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

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List uses Report of the Commissioner for linguistic minorities: 50th report as main source[edit]

Report of the Commissioner for linguistic minorities: 50th report (July 2012 to June 2013) is used as the main source of the list. I've corrected/removed/updated places where other languages were mentioned using sources older that this one. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 14:06, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

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Today's edit[edit]

@Magentic Manifestations:, you have no edit summary for today's edit [1]. The diff isn't very clear. Can you explain what changes you have made? - Kautilya3 (talk) 09:35, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

See User_talk:Magentic_Manifestations#Edit_summaries. Had no idea about this post. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:16, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
My bad! I have merged the section union-state govt commn. along with the administration section which talks about usage of languages for administrative commn. Have also added Gujarat high court verdict on national language as an info. Pl. let me know the disconnect here!Magentic Manifestations (talk) 18:13, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

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Official versus National[edit]

The article is very direct that while Hindi and English are "official languages", they are not "national languages". However, both the official language and national language page are rather nebulous on what the distinction is (""National language" and "official language" are best understood as two concepts or legal categories with ranges of meaning that may coincide, or may be intentionally separate.") If the distinction is considered to be worth making in the first two sentences of this article, then it's probably worth expanding on what the difference between an "official language" and a "national language" is from the Indian perspective, and why that distinction mattered to the Gujarat High Court. -- 160.129.138.186 (talk) 17:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Urdu in Jhardkand[edit]

The article about Jharkhand does not even mention Urdu among its official languages, here it is listed as additional official. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.182.176.28 (talkcontribs)

A reliable source has been given. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:45, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

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Importance of English versus Hindi[edit]

header retitled by me Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:48, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Mostly user behaviour-related discussion

Hi, I see repeated undoing, without any discussion by an user: Filpro, who is induging in edit-warring apart from using unparliamentary language while undoing any discussion on the same on his User: Talk page by using remarks like "Piss Off!". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Filpro

The user already appears to have been cited by someone else before via "Discretionary Sanctions Alert" for similar unproductive actions on that same user's talk page.

Kindly community, take appropriate steps to prevent such vandalism and avoidance of discussion by this user on this page, apart from repeated removal of sources from this and other related pages which appear to not present an NPOV by the user. (Particularly in how some of these pages appear to inflate the importance of Hindi, which is significantly debated in jurisprudence too apart from the legal standpoint of being important only in some particularly narrow contexts related to the Central or Union government of India.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.227.108.193 (talk) 10:51, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

This matter has been resolved. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:48, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

The actual dispute is quoting the IP from above "Particularly in how some of these pages appear to inflate the importance of Hindi, which is significantly debated in jurisprudence too apart from the legal standpoint of being important only in some particularly narrow contexts related to the Central or Union government of India."

This issue has been resolved long time ago at India at Talk:India/Archive_12#Secondary_sources: for instance. There have been more later but this is what is the most accurate to say, Hindi, with the largest number of speakers, is the official language of the government English is used extensively in business and administration and has the status of a "subsidiary official language" from the article. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:48, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 2 February 2017[edit]

Per User_talk:Bishonen#India_Topic_Ban, there's a consensus that the other side of the edit war was right content-wise. So, requesting to restore to that instead: 04:48, 29 January 2017 version Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:35, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:37, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

"Additional official language"[edit]

What's the justification for this? As for one type of example, it looks like Hariyana gave Punjabi equal status as Hindi and English, so "additional" is unnecessary; these languages should be moved to the first column. In other cases maybe this moniker does fit, i.e. languages official only to parts of the state, or given a lesser status than other languages. Other thoughts? ʙʌsʌwʌʟʌ тʌʟк 02:52, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

(Okay, it looks like Haryana gave Punjabi 'second(ary)/additional language' status, so it seems like moving languages with official status only in parts of the state to a third column would be better.) ʙʌsʌwʌʟʌ тʌʟк 17:43, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

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