Talk:List of British colours lost in battle
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Amkgp (talk) 07:09, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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- ... that the last British colour lost in battle was in 1880? "the last occasion upon which the colours of a British regiment have fallen into an enemy's hand was in the Afghan War of 1878-80 .. the battle of Maiwand ... 27th July 1880" from: Holden, Major R. (1 February 1895). "The Vicissitudes of Regimental Colours". Royal United Services Institution. Journal. 39 (204): 166-167. doi:10.1080/03071849509417953. ISSN 0035-9289.
- ALT1:... that the colours of the 81st Regiment of Foot (Aberdeenshire Highland Regiment) were captured at sea by an American privateer? "the English and Irish coasts were infested with American privateers ... when the old 81st ... were on a passage to Ireland, their first colours fell prey to one of these freebooters" from: Holden, Major R. (1 February 1895). "The Vicissitudes of Regimental Colours". Royal United Services Institution. Journal. 39 (204): 160. doi:10.1080/03071849509417953. ISSN 0035-9289.
- ALT2:... that the 1st (Royal) Regiment of Foot threw their colours into a river to avoid them being captured but they were later recovered by the French?"the adjutant of the 4th battalion the Royal Scots ... weighted the colours and sank them in the river Zoom. But they must have been found by the enemy for they were shortly afterwards in possession of the French commander" from: Holden, Major R. (1 January 1895). "The Vicissitudes of Regimental Colours". Royal United Services Institution. Journal. 39 (203): 35. doi:10.1080/03071849509417946. ISSN 0035-9289.
- ALT3:... that the king's colour of the 69th (South Lincolnshire) Regiment of Foot, lost at Quatre Bras in 1815, was purchased by a British holidaymaker in France and is now in the collection of the regimental museum?"2nd battalion, 69th Foot, Quatre Brasm 16 June 1815, lost king's colour" from: Burnham, Robert; McGuigan, Ron. The British Army Against Napoleon: Facts, Lists and Trivia, 1805-1815. Pen and Sword. p. 233. ISBN 978-1-78383-339-9. and "The porter then sold them to a British holidaymaker, Captain J.P. Jeffcock, for £24 in May 1909. Captain Jeffcock gave the colours to the former Welsh Regiment Museum following his return from holiday" from: "The King's Colour of the 69th Regiment". Peoples Collection Wales. Retrieved 27 August 2020.
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Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 18:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC).
- Reviewing...New enough, long enough, no copyvio issues, QPQ provided, reads well, interesting hooks (prefer proposed hook). Is there an image to go with proposed hook? Will read through and check references etc. Whispyhistory (talk) 10:51, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Whispyhistory, alas I could find no free image of the colours of the 66th at Maiwand - Dumelow (talk) 11:36, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- I've removed the image. It had been misidentified on Commons and is actually of an Austrian colour from the Battle of Vauchamps - Dumelow (talk) 23:07, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Dumelow...If the last colours were lost in 1880, what does this mean? "the heavy losses among the colour party of the 58th (Rutlandshire) Regiment of Foot at the 28 January 1881 Battle of Laing's Nek" ? Whispyhistory (talk) 14:43, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Whispyhistory. The colour party suffered large numbers of killed and wounded during the action but the colours were preserved. I've reworded this sentence to try to avoid confusion, let me know if it still needs work. Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 15:30, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
for proposed hook. Hook fact in article and followed by citation of a source that requires subscription. Thanks for clarifying @Dumelow:... I understand. Maybe helpful to make that point clear in lead. It is clear that you put put a lot of effort in this article. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:52, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Whispyhistory. The colour party suffered large numbers of killed and wounded during the action but the colours were preserved. I've reworded this sentence to try to avoid confusion, let me know if it still needs work. Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 15:30, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Dumelow...If the last colours were lost in 1880, what does this mean? "the heavy losses among the colour party of the 58th (Rutlandshire) Regiment of Foot at the 28 January 1881 Battle of Laing's Nek" ? Whispyhistory (talk) 14:43, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- I've removed the image. It had been misidentified on Commons and is actually of an Austrian colour from the Battle of Vauchamps - Dumelow (talk) 23:07, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Whispyhistory, alas I could find no free image of the colours of the 66th at Maiwand - Dumelow (talk) 11:36, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
The Royal Arillery considers the guns themselves to be their 'colours". Were no guns captured during the Second World War or Korea?
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