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Format
[edit]The formating on this page differs from past pages on other years. The Boxes conataining the Singles and artists should be lengthened to match the 2010 formating. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmittelsteadt (talk • contribs) 01:32, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- The reason those boxes are lengthened is because the content inside is long. In 2010, for example, "Like a G6" by Far⋆East Movement featured two other artists, so the artist column expanded due to the lengthy artist credit. Once we get far enough into the year and see more songs with features, the boxes will expand. --Wikipeep 494 (talk) 09:14, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Edit request from Mmittelsteadt, 23 January 2011
[edit]{{edit semi-protected}} I noticed that the boxes containing the titles of the singles in 2009 and 2010 are longer than those in 2011. To promote uniformity, it would be great if someone would lengthen the boxes on the 2011 page.
Mmittelsteadt (talk) 19:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm sorry: I'm not quite sure what you mean by "longer"? Yves (talk) 20:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- I think I may know what you mean. The tables are set to the length of the longest item in the column, and as there are few entires thus far, it is not very wide. Yves (talk) 22:48, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Logan Talk Contributions 00:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
S&M and E.T. artists
[edit]Both S&M and E.T. are rather unusual. They exist in both a solo and a duo-remix version. I feel this is notable enough to put in a footnote, otherwise many people may be under the impression that *merely* the remix charted, or may be unaware that a non-remix version exists. Enigmocracy (talk) 19:25, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- There is absolutely nothing unusual about it at all. Songs have been remixed for different genres and different reasons for decades. There are pop remixes of country songs, R&B/hip-hop songs with or without a rap, different recordings of the same song with different featured artists for specific radio audiences. Billboard just reports them and ranks them based on sales and airplay, there's no weird or special thing going on here. The mentioning of specific remixes is appropriate for the song articles, but not here. - eo (talk) 20:00, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- Rarely have these recordings been released so closely to each other that ambiguity can result. As of now, the article states that the #1 single is "E.T." featuring Katy Perry featuring Kanye West. What someone not familiar with pop music may assume is that this is the only version of the song, but a nearly-as-popular solo version was also released and is counted, and ought to mentioned. The point is not to reiterate the policy that remixes are combined with originals via the Billboard's policy, but rather that there ARE two versions of this song available right now and receiving radio play, something many people might not know.Enigmocracy (talk) 21:33, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
- It's not only single versions / album versions that are counted toward a song on the Billboard Hot 100, but every other version legitimately released and available for legal purchase. Take a recent example: Britney Spears' "Till the World Ends", which was recently remixed (as "...The Femme Fatale Remix") with Nicki Minaj and Ke$ha. It is expected to reach a new peak on the Billboard Hot 100 when next week's chart is released, and this article explains what I just said. If "Till the World Ends" reaches number-one, do we add it to the list along with ...The Femme Fatale Remix, and the remixes by the Bloody Beatroots, White Sea, Kik Klap, and four other remixers? As Ericorbit said, different versions of one song are almost always counted together on this chart. If readers want more information, there are separate articles on the songs. Yves (talk) 05:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
- Alright, you make good points. Sounds reasonable to me. :)Enigmocracy (talk) 05:40, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
- It's not only single versions / album versions that are counted toward a song on the Billboard Hot 100, but every other version legitimately released and available for legal purchase. Take a recent example: Britney Spears' "Till the World Ends", which was recently remixed (as "...The Femme Fatale Remix") with Nicki Minaj and Ke$ha. It is expected to reach a new peak on the Billboard Hot 100 when next week's chart is released, and this article explains what I just said. If "Till the World Ends" reaches number-one, do we add it to the list along with ...The Femme Fatale Remix, and the remixes by the Bloody Beatroots, White Sea, Kik Klap, and four other remixers? As Ericorbit said, different versions of one song are almost always counted together on this chart. If readers want more information, there are separate articles on the songs. Yves (talk) 05:34, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
- Rarely have these recordings been released so closely to each other that ambiguity can result. As of now, the article states that the #1 single is "E.T." featuring Katy Perry featuring Kanye West. What someone not familiar with pop music may assume is that this is the only version of the song, but a nearly-as-popular solo version was also released and is counted, and ought to mentioned. The point is not to reiterate the policy that remixes are combined with originals via the Billboard's policy, but rather that there ARE two versions of this song available right now and receiving radio play, something many people might not know.Enigmocracy (talk) 21:33, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Rihanna
[edit]Can someone please change Rihanna's info box on the right because it says "His" instead of "Her" thanks!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.203.223 (talk) 16:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
"Early Edition" on Wikipedia?
[edit]Could someone please explain to me how we know what next week's #1 song is going to be? -Agur bar Jacé (talk) 21:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
- Billboard posts an article every week the day before the charts are refreshed detailing the Top 10 and other notable chart jumps, debuts, etc. Here is this week's article. --Wikipeep 494 (talk) 03:59, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Removal of LMFAO and the addition of Britney Spears
[edit]I feel that while LMFAO had a remarkable year on the chart the significance of Britney Spears' accomplishments during the year bests theirs and as such she should get their spot. Feel free to disagree but I do believe that we should highlight significant accomplishments over a group gaining their first number-one single.
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Contradiction
[edit]The lead of this article states that 14 singles reached No.1, of which one was Firework by Katy Perry. Yet note a says that Firework is "excluded from the count" because it had previously reached No.1 in 2010. This seems like a complete contradiction to me. Is Firework counted as a 2011 No.1 single or not? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 12:12, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- I would say no. - eo (talk) 12:18, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- No it's a 2010 number-one single, but also reached the top position in 2011 too. — Tomíca(T2ME) 12:20, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- So it reached No.1 in 2011, but it isn't a 2011 No.1 single? That seems very confusing, and completely contradictory. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 12:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- It's not contradictory at all; the song reached number one in 2010 and just replaced the peak the next year, making it only a 2010 number one single, that's why the note is there, to explain that. — Tomíca(T2ME) 12:44, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- Where has this definition of a "2011 number one" come from? Is it an official Billboard definition? I'd assumed that any single that had reached No.1 on the Hot 100 chart in 2011 would be a "2011 number one", regardless of whether or not it had topped the charts previously. Does this mean that if the Hot 100 had been topped entirely by songs that had already been No.1 in previous years, then there wouldn't, strictly speaking, have been any 2011 number ones? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 13:15, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- It's not contradictory at all; the song reached number one in 2010 and just replaced the peak the next year, making it only a 2010 number one single, that's why the note is there, to explain that. — Tomíca(T2ME) 12:44, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- So it reached No.1 in 2011, but it isn't a 2011 No.1 single? That seems very confusing, and completely contradictory. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 12:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- No it's a 2010 number-one single, but also reached the top position in 2011 too. — Tomíca(T2ME) 12:20, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry for replying to this now, but I've been looking at the year-end summaries and I've been wondering about this too. It just seems to me that maybe defining a number-one as being "2010" or "2011" is needlessly confusing when all it's saying is that a number-one peaked that year. And I think that information is relevant when you're talking about singles that peaked within a calendar year, but imo it's perfectly acceptable to also talk about number-one singles topping the charts within a calendar year, as long as you're explicit about the difference. As far as that difference, I think this article gets it right: it mentions the number of singles that topped the chart within the calendar year, but it also says later that Adele, Katy, et al. earned two number-ones during the year, which implies a one-time act of peaking ("Firework" having reached its peak the year before). Other articles aren't so clear about this, however, and I think most of it is down to wording, which can be really dicey. --Wikipeep 494 (talk) 06:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
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