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Songs for Episode 2

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Do we have sources? If not, I don't think they should be posted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheResidentEvil0 (talkcontribs) 06:04, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The general Amazon source gives the release date for all three songs as September 27, 2011—the scheduled date for "I Am Unicorn" to air—and they all have the same "cover" design, which is different from the first episode's design. (By comparison, it gives September 20, 2011 as the release date for the songs from "The Purple Piano Project".) As best I can determine, that's the extent of the non-fan sourcing at the present time, but I think it's sufficient to justify including those three songs by title and episode. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:12, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Would it be acceptable to list those sources in the reference field then? This would show some validation to what is listed. Also, thank you for fixing my post. I am working overnights and tend to be tired, so I wasn't paying attention. The Resident Evil (talk) 06:37, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dances and Shakespeare

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Since all the dance-only performances (such as California Gurls) are included in these lists, shouldn't other dances such as Mike Chang's acapella pieces in this week's episode be included as "original songs", if you will? It seems to make sense to include them...--Coin945 (talk) 12:39, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I think it should be changed to "list of performances on glee" because the inclusion of that piece from Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet seems just as valid to be on a list like this that a strictly dance sequence.--Coin945 (talk) 12:40, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this is the "List of songs" article, so if a song is on the show as part of a performance, even if it's the original version and not a cover, it should be on the list. Marking it as a "dance performance" indicates that the listed performers danced to the song, but didn't sing it. If there isn't a song involved, it doesn't make sense to list a dance sequence here. Which takes us to your second part, expanding the scope of the article to include all performances, including dance sequences that don't involve music, and other segments of artistic expression such as play scenes (which would involve at least one Rocky Horror non-musical scenelet, I do believe, and maybe a couple of Vocal Adrenaline dance rehearsals where Shelby was counting time). My vote would be no. This page has a defined scope and methodology: it is a list of songs that are included in episodes of Glee, whether sung by the cast or the original artist—though not background snippets for the latter (e.g., not "The Chain" from the "Rumours" episode). I'd be interested to hear what those who set up these pages, if they're still around, think about this idea. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:38, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sugar's Vocal Exercise (3x02)

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Is there any particular reason why Sugar and Shelby's vocal rehearsal isn't included? They are, in fact, singing - even if it's just the same line over and over again. (I'm actually unsure as to whether or not it's a snippet from an existing song or an original, but that's not the point here) Is the reason for its omission the lack of a source mentioning its existence? Past seasons' articles list songs that were heard much less clearly on screen, such as the You Raise Me Up / Magic mashup from season 1, after all. --LeoChris (talk) 19:34, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't a song at all. It's a vocal warmup, singing an ascending and descending major octave arpeggio (1-3-5-8-5-3-1) to the words "I am a shining star" instead of "me me me me me me me" or a legato "ah". It shouldn't be included any more than Kurt and Rachel's warmups in the beginning of "The Purple Piano Project" when they're being interviewed by Jacob in the choir room, or the warmups in "A Night of Neglect" that Santana interrupts with the announcement that Sunshine has pulled out of the benefit. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:56, 7 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Upcoming Songs

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Toby Keith's "Red Solo Cup" will be featured in an upcoming episode. http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/glee-mixes-toby-keith-and-adele-for-300th-musical-performance-20111027

Also, Coach Beiste will be performing her first solo! This will occur in episode seven, I Kissed a Girl. http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/story/2011-10-28/dot-marie-jones-glee/50975938/1 24.128.65.91 (talk) 20:03, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. For "Red Solo Cup", the article says "may soon get the shiny-happy show-choir treatment"; unfortunately, "may" isn't definite enough to warrant inclusion. As soon as a reputable source like Rolling Stone publishes more definitive information, it'll definitely make the page.
The same applies to Coach Beiste's song. We know the episode -- she's also tweeted about it -- but not which song. I think they're keeping it under wraps for a while. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:52, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glee have recently told their viewers that they wil cover 'Glad You Came'by The Wanted!Hellz yeaaaahhhh

Uptown Girl Performers

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(This comment is based on the officially released sneak peek of the performance, as seen here I don't think it qualifies as original research, but even if it does, I think the point should be discussed - a reliable source (or the episode itself, I forget whether or not that can be used as a source) is likely to appear after the airing of the episode, anyhow.)

Uptown Girl's “performed by” column currently simply lists the “Dalton Academy Warblers”, while Candyman lists “Mercedes Jones, Santana Lopez and Brittany Pierce with the Troubletones”. Now, all three of those girls are actually part of the Troubletones, so listing it as “the Troubletones” wouldn't be any less accurate. Assuming Candyman's listing is indeed correct, however, shouldn't Uptown Girl's read something akin to “Nick, Sebastian, Thad and the Dalton Academy Warblers with Blaine Anderson” or “Nick, Sebastian, and Thad with the Dalton Academy Warblers and Blaine Anderson”? (Curt Mega and Eddy Martin's characters are named in the co-starring credits of various season 2 episodes, while multiple sources identify Grant Gustin as portraying Sebastian) Those three individuals are the ones who get solo lines, as opposed to singing back vocals, and the inclusion of the dancing-only Blaine is on par with the various inclusions of football players or cheerleaders (See Cool, or It's Not Unusual). Thoughts? LeoChris (talk) 18:03, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This brings up a conundrum: with the exception of the songs Kurt sung lead on, the Blaine-led songs were simply listed as "Dalton Academy Warblers" for the season 2 entries, which is why this season's first entry initially followed that example. I think your "something akin to" is probably what it will end up being, assuming (as you note) the format for the Troubletones solos hold true. The listings haven't exactly been consistent from group to group.
However, with the exception of Nick, who can be referenced thanks to the released "about the episode" video on "The First Time", which has Criss introducing Curt as Nick doing the solo on the song, I'm pretty sure the others would come under "original research" at least until the episode airs, though a reliable source link giving the soloists is even better. My take is that we should leave it until the episode is up there, and with any luck there'll be a major review that lists the soloists that we can cite. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:16, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Songs in Mash Off

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Puck will sing "Hot for Teacher" thinking in Shelby. [1][2]

Santana and Finn will be performing "Hit Me with Your Best Shot" / "One Way or Another"[3]

Hope it will help. Mawp96 (talk) 03:24, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for posting. Regrettably, we cannot use any sources from Glee fan sites such as the wiki and the other one you've cited here. Wikipedia rules for reliable sources are fairly strict, which is why we have to rely on professional publications with editorial reliability standards. So, no matter how likely this information is, or how often these particular fan sites happen to be correct, we'll have to wait until we can cite a reliable one. It will probably be a few days yet. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:17, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

PopCrush seems an insufficiently reliable source

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The article was updated today with information from this article on PopCrush. Unfortunately, when you look at it, the source is quite shoddy in terms of journalistic rigor. Two song attributions are outright stated to be rumors, and I have removed them from the article. A third, which purports to list the singers based on a linked YouTube video of the episode preview, only lists five of the seven performers that are seen in said preview, and we haven't—to the best of my knowledge—allowed previews to be considered "reliable" enough in the past. Puck's is "presumably", which is weasel wording if ever I saw it, and then there are the trio and duo on the remaining two songs, listed without qualifiers. However, given that over half of the information is clearly suspect, I don't think we can trust the rest.

I propose that, for the purposes of this article, and all other Glee articles on Wikipedia for that matter, that PopCrush not be used as a reliable news source, since this article clearly demonstrates otherwise. We can wait for other, known reliable sources, to post the information. Thoughts? BlueMoonset (talk) 04:09, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Having heard no objections in the week since this was posted, and discussed this with Frickative on her talk page (discussion archived today), I'm going to follow through with removing the PopCrush citations, and adjusting where needed. This may remove a couple of performers from the "I Kissed a Girl" episode songs (and the version of "Perfect" being performed), but the versions of the other five songs are listed on gleethemusic.com, so we don't lose much. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:59, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dancing vs. Performing

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The song that Blaine, Sebastian, and Kurt dance to in the bar is on the list, so why isn't Blaine dancing to Roxy Music earlier in the episode also on it? For that matter, I'm sure there are countless other times people have "danced" on the show, without performing, but I'm just too lazy to list them. The scene with the three kids in the bar is not something I would consider a "performance", they're just dancing. So if we're going to include that, why not Roxy Music and the other times from the first two seasons, also, where they just "danced"? 24.128.65.91 (talk) 19:32, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this song doesn't belong on the list. The rationale when it was added—I believe the Neil Diamond song from season one's "Hell-O" was mentioned as justification—is not valid: I just checked, and Will sings along with Neil in that scene, making it an actual Glee performance. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:07, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Girls Just Want to Have Fun cover

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I'm pretty sure that the version covered is Greg Laswell's version. Listen both and compare. 187.105.20.214 (talk) 21:02, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Christmas Album vs. Songs actually in Episode 9

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Is there evidence that all these songs will be featured in the episode?! I can't find any, and if there is it should be added to the article. Just because amazon have listed them as being released individually doesn't mean that we should take it for certain that they'll be featured in the episode, surely? I'm thinking particuarly of 'Santa Claus Is Coming To Town', which features Samuel Larsen, who has not yet been introduced to the show. Obviously he might well be introduced in this episode, but I've seen nothing to suggest this either. Zacitty (talk) 20:47, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bit of a mess. The Glee: The Music, Volume 7 press release listed five songs that it claimed would be in the episode, though it feels suspicious to me. I actually find the Amazon list a bit more suggestive, because those songs were already available from the Christmas album (volume 2), and it doesn't make sense to re-release them as a single unless they're appearing in the episode, especially with an embargo until a week after the episode airs... but the point about Larsen is especially well taken, since he hasn't -- so far as I'm able to determine, based on what he's been tweeting -- been on the set yet to start shooting, and they're filming episode 10 right now, with the first songs of episode 11, the Michael Jackson lollapalooza, already starting to be recorded for later filming. Larsen was to start in 10 or 11, but I'm wondering whether that'll be pushed back to 12 (which is the Ricky Martin subs for Will episode). It probably depends on whether they think he'll add a lot to one of the Jackson songs. I wish Fox had it more together. And Columbia, for that matter... As for evidence, all we have is an EW claim that there will be at least six songs in the episode, but I'm damn sure there won't be eleven. Someone would have said something about that by now. My suspicion is that the Will and Emma original song and Artie's "Little Drummer Boy" won't be in the episode, but will just be on the album. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:53, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I found this (http://www.vevo.com/watch/glee-cast/do-they-know-its-christmas-glee-cast-version/USQX91101858) which I can't imagine they'd have bothered with if it wouldn't be in the episode. (And it's adorable so even IF they hadn't planned to use it they probably will.) But then again was DTKIC on the list from the Press Release? I'm completley lost, should we just remove everything in terms of the Christmas episode from the article until it's aired or confirmed? Zacitty (talk) 23:25, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The two videos of songs that appear on gleethemusic.com's "First Listen Friday", which include DTKiC and "All I Want for Christmas Is You", are absolutely golden. There's no way they're going to do up videos and release them, and have them not be in the episode. (Also, there's a big press release about how Glee is donating all proceeds from DTKiC to the Band Aid Charitable Trust, which also says it's being broadcast in the episode: given the fuss made over it, there's no way they're cutting it.) There's separate backing for "Extraordinary Merry Christmas" the song as being in the episode, too. (See source in episode article of the same name, plus the song was featured in the "Next week on Glee" preview that ran after episode 8.) As for the rest, if it were a normal week, we'd run with the Amazon single releases as evidence that the song was in the episode. My inclination would be to downgrade the claim from the Volume 7 press release, since it's making a claim about a different album and an episode unrelated to Volume 7, and go with the Amazon info. Others may have different thoughts. However, attempting to delete everything is doomed to failure, since it will just be replaced. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:05, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Later: I take it back. The Hollywood Reporter says there are eleven songs in the episode in this article, up from seven in 2010, so let's leave 'em all in. THR is a generally reliable source, so I guess they're release eight of eleven as singles, and letting the other three, plus the rest of the album, survive as they may. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:40, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"My Favourite Things" has been added to the article? I'm a little confused, because I thought that the whole point of the Christmas album was that all the songs from the Christmas episode were featured in it and vice versa, but I suppose if it's a single release on Amazon... Also, here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=67lru3FyTI4) there seems to be a Glee version of 'Deck The Halls' playing in the background? Zacitty (talk) 19:15, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Last year one of the songs—"Welcome Christmas"—was not on the album, but was released as a single. It could be that they've decided that Sam needed to be in a song, though you wouldn't expect it to be "My Favorite Things", which is vaguely holidayesque but not more than that. Of course, with its addition, we're now up to twelve songs, meaning that (if the Hollywood Reporter story is correct) one of the two cited in the Volume 7 squib—either the original song or the drummer boy—won't be appearing. (No way to know which one, of course.) Or worse, neither will be appearing, and another, as-yet-unrevealed song from the album, will be. We'll find out tomorrow night... BlueMoonset (talk) 19:25, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just received the set list from the FOX Mobile Club and "Little Drummer Boy," "Santa Baby," and "Christmas Eve with You" were all absent from the list, so it is safe to assume that they will not be in the aired episode. - Jasonbres (talk) 19:43, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Episode 5 song error

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Hi, i noticed an error in episode 5 songs, "a boy like that" and "i have a love" are listed as two separate songs, although they are actually one (mash-up) "A boy like that / I have a love" I would change it except i am not able to so if someone who can, do it please that would be great :) Thanks heaps — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mollison92 (talkcontribs) 00:25, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The reason the songs are listed separately is that they were performed separately in the show, minutes apart. This is what drove the separated listing, even if the two songs are performed one after the other in West Side Story and are combined on the single that Glee released for download. This page reflects the songs as they are presented on the show, so the separation is deliberate, not an error at all. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:28, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 4 January 2012

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"Smooth Criminal" Michael Jackson Santana Lopez & Sebastian Smythe 11. TBA TBA TBA "Bad " Michael Jackson New Directions & Warblers 11. TBA TBA TBA "Never Can Say Goodbye" Michael Jackson Quinn Fabray 11. TBA TBA TBA "In The Closet " Michael Jackson Brittany Pierce & Santana Lopez 11. TBA TBA TBA "We Are The World" Michael Jackson New Directions & Warblers 11. TBA TBA TBA "Black or White" Michael Jackson Noah Puckerman 11. TBA TBA TBA "Beat it/Billy Jean" Michael Jackson Warblers 11. TBA TBA TBA "Ghost/Monster " Michael Jackson New Directions 11. TBA TBA TBA "The Way You Make Me Feel" Michael Jackson Kurt Hummel 11. TBA TBA TBA "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" Michael Jackson Artie Abrams 11. TBA TBA TBA

evidence: http://www.wetpaint.com/glee/articles/glee-season-3-spoilers-song-list-for-michael-jackson-tribute-episode-leaked

Ybriknire (talk) 19:42, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We will not be making the requested change. The article is clearly speculative: it says this is a "maybe set list". Wikipedia requires reliable sourcing, not maybe, not rumors. Furthermore, wetpaint.com is not a reliable source: they posted the following on December 28 as the Fox quoted synopsis for episode 10—"Will (Matthew Morrison) contemplates proposing to Emma (Jayma Mays). Sam (Chord Overstreet) tries to win back Mercedes (Amber Riley), even going as far as to join the synchronized swim team in order to impress her. Real Housewives of Atlanta's NeNe Leakes guest stars as his new swim coach, Roz Washington. Meanwhile, Becky Jackson sets her romantic sights on Artie (Kevin McHale)"—when the actual released synopsis by Fox from this week is as follows: "When Will tries to plan a special surprise for Emma, he enlists the glee club to help him sweep her off her feet. Meanwhile, Becky sets her sights on Artie, and Finn makes an announcement about his life plans after high school that surprises the glee club". In short: they made up a quote, and have demonstrated that they cannot be trusted as reliable.
As soon as we have reliable sources on the rest of the songs, we'll include them. They still haven't finished filming the episode, so not everything is set in stone. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:08, 4 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The version of "Without You" the show is covering

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They're covering the Usher/David Guetta song per this interview: "I just did an awesome new version of a popular song that’s on the radio right now…it’s a David Guetta song that we recreated into a more of a ballad, girl, beautiful, great, you know, thing." 174.61.51.100 (talk) 19:08, 6 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New "Deleted songs" section

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Is this a section that belongs on this page, and how can we be sure we know all the cuts? These songs weren't actually in Glee: we've lost their context, so even with something like "Santa Baby", that gets released as a video, there's no scene setup. It didn't actually appear in the third season, just as "I Want You Back" and its interstitial material won't. Will we be going back to the first and second seasons to fill those in as well? There is that extant list of the first 300 Glee performances; anything on there that wasn't in an episode would seem to be fair game, though we haven't yet included them.

However, if we do decide to keep the section, then the song cut from "Mash Off", of young Sue Sylvester singing "Oklahoma" from the musical of the same name, also needs to be included in it. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:56, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think the last time this was discussed was way back in May 2010, when the central issue was whether "Last Christmas" (then a promotional single, with no indication it would ever be used in an episode) should be included. While it's not quite the situation as songs filmed for episodes and then cut, I guess my opinion is still the same - those songs weren't in Glee, and while including them in the discography and mentioning them in the respective episode articles is perfectly fine, these lists don't naturally cover them in their remit. As you note, there's no way such sub-lists could ever be considered complete, either, because we're just not privy to the whims of the writers room and editing suite. Frickative 11:04, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
My thoughts are similar to yours: this is a list of songs in the show, so anything that wasn't broadcast shouldn't be listed here. If an eventual DVD were to be released that restored the cut performances in an episode, that might be different, and we could revisit the issue then. If cut songs were just included as extras, then I wouldn't think so. BlueMoonset (talk) 08:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why?

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Recently, group numbers have been listed by names of characters with solos, and then "and New Directions." Now, I'm slightly confused by this, as I see no reason to not just say "New Directions." It's always been like that. And for that matter, Mercedes & Santana with The Troubletones, should just be The Troubletones, in my opinion. Food for thought. :) 24.128.65.91 (talk) 00:06, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Except there's no guarantee that the actors are actually singing on any given song their characters perform in, eg. Morris, Shum and Talton in season 1 who appeared as backing singers on many numbers but never recorded a single note, plus the fact the albums for each season use somewhere in the region of twenty studio singers. We would never accurately know who sang on what. Frickative 09:51, 23 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Except nobody ever lists background singers. Adele's songs have background singers and the artist is listed as "Adele", ditto almost every song in history. You just list the people who are actually singing, not who dances in the background. Hardly rocket science. --TheTruthiness (talk) 19:01, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No need to be snippy. That's my point - we don't know who's actually singing. We know which of the characters appear to be singing, not which actors have laid down vocals for the track - particularly on true group numbers featuring the full thirteen of them. Frickative 19:48, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We don't have the same point. Mine is that background singers are never listed on track artists anywhere in music...because they're background singers. Don't bother listing anyone who isn't providing main vocals, problem solved. --TheTruthiness (talk) 03:15, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just going to go ahead and say I don't support the proposed change. Only listing the lead vocalist on group numbers would, to my mind, be factually incorrect, and open the door up to OR with regards to who of the thirteen has a "main" part in any song. Unless a majority consensus agrees otherwise, I think the status quo is the best approach. Frickative 10:07, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I also support the status quo. These pages for Glee are lists of songs, yes, but they're a list of song performances as well, sometimes (especially seasons one and two) when it's a dance performance with no singing at all, or a performance with singing where the putative singers (for example, Vocal Adrenaline pre-Jesse, when it was entirely studio singers). Did Grant Gustin sing any of the music he appeared to in "Bad"? We don't know. But we do know that New Directions and the Warblers performed that song, and we're sure about the Artie, Blaine, and Santana solos.
As for the initial question, I'm not sure why. There seems to have been a change over time to definitively list the leads in the big group songs. I don't think the group songs have more solo time and less group time, though they might. It's hard to draw that line, sometimes, between lead with backgrounds and group with occasional solos, given the large fuzzy area in the middle. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:59, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Duran Duran Mash-Up

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I'm not sure those are the two songs the Anderson brothers will be performing; Bomer merely states he would listen to those songs as a youth, not that he did those songs with Criss. 216.204.206.155 (talk) 15:10, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I read the "them" as referring back to the two songs, but as you note it could just as easily be referring back to the "they" at the end of that sentence. Maybe even more so. So to be safe, I'm removing the names of the songs until we get a more definitive confirmation. Since the round of Bomer interviews seems to be over, that will probably be next week when Amazon lists the names of the upcoming songs. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:50, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New Song!

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Rachel will be performing Selena Gomez's "Love You Like a Love Song." http://www.eonline.com/news/watch_with_kristin/selena_gomez_getting_glee_treatment/307249 216.204.206.152 (talk) 15:55, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Update to the Above

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http://ryanseacrest.com/2012/04/10/selena-gomezs-hit-love-you-like-a-love-song-will-be-sung-by-naya-rivera-on-glee-audio/ 216.204.206.152 (talk) 14:07, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Performer(s) for Disco Inferno

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http://perezhilton.com/2012-04-12-amber-riley-exclusive-sings-disco-inferno-on-glee#.T4b3cpp1Bzp 216.204.206.152 (talk) 15:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Already added like half an hour ago. - Jasonbres (talk) 16:43, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Prom-asaurus

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Where has the title of the episode for "Love You Like a Love Song" been announced? Until then, it shouldn't be listed; also, the episode number is not known either. Theog101 (talk) 21:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you had looked at the two references for the song, you would have seen in one that the song would be airing in the prom episode, and in the other that the prom episode's title was "Prom-asaurus". Under those circumstances, listing the episode name was quite appropriate. What neither reference had at the time was the episode number for the episode, which has subsequently been announced to be episode 19. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:39, 25 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Glee: The Music, The Graduation Album Available May 15

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The full track listing for Glee: The Music, The Graduation Album as as follows:

1. We Are Young 2. Edge Of Glory 3. I Won’t Give Up 4. We Are The Champions 5. School’s Out 6. I Was Here 7. I’ll Remember 8. You Get What You Give 9. Not The End 10. Roots Before Branches 11. Glory Days 12. Forever Young 13. Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)

Source: http://www.gleethemusic.com/us/news/glee-music-graduation-album-available-may-15 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.211.155.74 (talk) 16:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

here's a link to an updated track listing actually listing the bands. the two i havent heard of before are 'room for two'(Roots Before Branches) and 'the so manys'(Not The End). heres the link to the article from ABC News Radio and videos for the two songs: Source: http://abcnewsradioonline.com/music-news/2012/4/17/glees-graduation-album-coming-may-15-with-gaga-madonna-beyon.html Room for Two, Roots Before Branches: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KJwyQ7F7Dg The So Manys, Not The End: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gjVm5sNiHE&feature=plcp&context=C4944030VDvjVQa1PpcFOJljwYZJJ74I1pK4m-LB6V9IXHSEIiII8%3D Jonnyrocket1000 (talk) 03:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC)jr[reply]

You guys missed a song.

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I don't know how you guys missed this song but here you go. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Because-Loved-Glee-Cast-Version/dp/B0080X0HXY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1336423417&sr=1-1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.151.212.255 (talk) 05:42, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it's not listed as being released by Amazon in the US—I just checked to be sure. But it sure is there for Amazon UK, and you can even listen to a snippet. Very odd. Thanks for the pointer! BlueMoonset (talk) 06:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Amazon US finally has it listed. I've added the link to the reference, in place of the UK one. Glad that it's definitely being offered in the US, too, though I imagine it would have shown up on iTunes today. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:45, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Performers of the songs from the episode Props

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You have two songs from this episodes that doesn't have the performers, here's a link that have the performers: http://www.buddytv.com/articles/glee/glee-listen-to-songs-from-epis-45590.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.167.119.194 (talk) 22:11, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, BuddyTV has not been reliable when it comes to listing who sings what: they appear to guess based on listening to the song rather than getting definitive information from Fox. If you look at their list for "Nationals" (linked to from the "Props" article), you will notice that it lists "Edge of Glory" as being by New Directions, when it has long been established as a Troubletones song by more reliable sourcing (and the latest promo confirms that there is indeed a Troubletones song). At this point, it makes more sense to wait for the episode to air later today and post accurate information afterward. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:42, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Forever Young" by Rod Stewart

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I think the song Will Schuester sings in "Goodbye" is "Forever Young" by Rod Stewart, not "Young Forever" by Alphaville. I've previewed the song on iTunes and I think the listing here is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.170.101.179 (talk) 10:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, do you have a reliable source that proves that? - Jasonbres (talk) 12:53, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Pinball Wizard Artist

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Don't you think that the artists of Pinball Wizard should be Elton John because they did his version of the song. Like in Season 2 the artist of Landslide is listed as the Dixie Chicks because they did their cover of the song even though it's originally sung by Stevie Nicks. Also season 1 lists Tina and Ike Turner as the artists for Proud Mary because it was their version but it was originally sung by Creedence Clearwater Revival. The same thing applies here. The Who originally sang in but it is clearly Elton John's cover. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.180.114 (talk) 04:43, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reliable source somewhere that says this? Usually it's mentioned in a review or a musical commentary—"Landslide" is an example, as is "Rolling in the Deep"—but I haven't seen any mention of this being the Elton John movie version vs. the original in a dozen or so reviews. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:34, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I've read that it's the Elton John version in some reviews and forums but I t.hink the best reliable source is our ears. The two versions are very different. It's like if they did the Ryan Adams version of Wonderwall. Even if you didn't see anyone specifically say it was his version you'd still write is was because it would be so obviously clear that it's not the Oasis version. I think it's the same case hear — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.180.114 (talk) 23:26, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

By definition, "the best reliable source is our ears" is original research, and not allowed for Wikipedia articles. It isn't enough for you to know something and be sure of it personally, there needs to be that all-important reliable secondary source that states it as well. Unfortunately, fan reviews and fan forums do not count as reliable: it needs to be a place with known editorial standards and fact-checking. That's the way Wikipedia works, and those are the requirements we all have to satisfy to include information on its article pages. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:54, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Paradise By The Dashboard Light Artists

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Ellen Foley should be added to the artist of Paradise By The Dashboard Light. Its Meatloaf and Ellen Foley. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.180.114 (talk) 04:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How should we do this? Nowadays, it would probably be listed as "Meat Loaf feat. Ellen Foley", but they didn't do the "featuring" thing back then. Should we use it as a model? BlueMoonset (talk) 17:34, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can just write Meatloaf and Ellen Folley — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.180.114 (talk) 23:12, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So, why exactly was Good Riddance taken off?

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Seeing as it's on the Graduation album and there's only one episode left. 94.99.137.153 (talk) 15:37, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it is not listed as being in the episode on the Glee: The Music web site. - Jasonbres (talk) 16:47, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We have conflicting sources, both of which have had reliability issues in the past despite being official, and they're both the same glee site. One says that eight of the songs on the album will be in the graduation (season finale) episode, and specifically lists "Good Riddance" by name as one of them. This was dated April 17, before the episode was filmed; filming began in earnest on April 30. (They didn't even finish recording the vocals until April 21.) The actual list given for the episode—though these lists are not always complete, and frequently omit songs being featured on another web site—gives six from the album plus a seventh single. Assuming that the two songs aren't in the episode, my guess (only a guess!) is that they didn't have room for nine songs and all the story they needed to tell in the episode, and "Good Riddance" and "I Was Here" ended up on the cutting room floor—whether they were filmed and then cut, like "I Want You Back" or "Santa Baby", is another question.
At this point, we'll know one way or the other in less than a day and a half, so a change one way or the other isn't going to matter for much longer. I think I'd be more inclined to keep the songs listed absent more definitive information—we have a clear statement that they are in, albeit old, vs. a list that could be incomplete, albeit newer. I don't consider the latter to be sufficient grounds to remove the two songs from the episode article, absent more clear, definitive, and clearly reliable information, and plan to retain them there for the present. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:34, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, misread it. 94.99.137.153 (talk) 19:32, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"You Get What You Give"

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The performers of the song "You Get What You Give" in the episode "Goodbye" are written as "Graduating members of New Directions" but it should be mentioned that they are the "2012" Graduating members because next year the graduating members are probably gonna perform a song together and they will be 2013 Graduating members of New Directions not the same "Graduating members of New Directions". Amin7gerami 07:39, 25 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amin7gerami (talkcontribs)

Given that "New Directions" itself changes from episode to episode, I think it will be understood that it was the graduating members in that episode, just like it's the New Directions members in each episode who count. New Directions in the fourth season is going to look very different from the third season incarnation. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:51, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Can't Fight This Feeling"

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The season finale also featured a flashback to Finn's performance of the above-mentioned song from the Pilot, didn't it? Is there any reason why it is omitted? I understand that, unlike Sit Down... and Single Ladies... it was completely archive footage, but it was still featured in the third season. Shouldn't it be added, with a note saying it was a re-used scene? --LeoChris (talk) 01:50, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Summer Nights"

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The song, like it or not, was first released on The Complete Season Three in September 2012. Whether it seems more appropriate that it be on Presents Glease, released in November 2012, the fact remains that we typically list the first release only. We don't usually do a footnote if the song is released on a regular CD and then a season CD; we have when a song appears on two regular CDs (i.e., "Teenage Dream"). In this case, it seems to me that a footnote would be in order to say it was later released on the Presents Glease EP, but not that it was first released there, which is what the recent attempts to change it to Presents Glease imply. Please do not change this again until a consensus is achieved here. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:20, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]


All song Albums are messed up?

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Why were the albums all switched to The Complete Third Season? Shouldn't that be listed only if they were singles? It's odd that seasons 1 & 2 did NOT have their albums changed. I think they should be switched back to the volumes that they were originally released on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.41.232.86 (talk) 03:32, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There were only three CDs released during season 3: Volume 7, Christmas Volume 2, and Graduation Album. All other songs were only released in Complete Third Season, which is why they're listed that way. (The other three CDs take precedence over Complete, but that's it.) Which songs did you think should have been listed as being on another album? BlueMoonset (talk) 04:16, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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People, please don't add links to shop sites as references. See WP:SPAMLINK. The Dissident Aggressor 22:22, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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"Michael" episode

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Is there a reason why the Warblers' version of "I Want You Back" was not included in season 3 episode "Michael"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.43.139.193 (talk) 16:21, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

74.43.139.193, the reason is that the song did not air in the episode. Although it had been filmed, they had too much material for the episode, so the song was cut. Since it wasn't broadcast in the "Michael" episode, we can't list it here. The song was subsequently released on YouTube, but that doesn't count as being in the Glee season. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]