Talk:List of submarines of the United States Navy/Archive 1

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December 2003

Hrm..... This list isn't quite in hull number order now, is it? How can we fix this?

1. Separate it into categories: hull types? submarine eras (early, WWII, nuclear, etc)?
2. Strictly by hull number (all 1's, then all 2's, etc...)
   

UtherSRG 03:58, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Nearly all are on the 1-777 consecutive numbering scheme, with a few oddballs and captured U-boats that don't fit nicely, and they're in front or back, whichever seemed most sensible. The oddballs should be grouped with each other in any case. The numerical sorting takes precedence, because a random reader won't necessarily know whether "58-something" is an SS, SSN, or SSBN, but the numerical order puts all the 580s together. The class articles generally list all the subs of their type, so those lists are covered already. When the parallel alpha list goes in, it will be clearer why the numerical list needs to be totally flat - when they're the same length, you know that there aren't any that are in one list and not the other. Stan 04:12, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Does anyone have a complete list of all the classes? It seems that a list/link to the class pages (in chronological order?) would be a useful addition to this page. Elde 00:17, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Sweepers, sweepers, man your brooms, give me a clean sweep-down ... I mean, give me a full list of classes and unique boats at list of United States submarine classes. --the Epopt 17:34, 30 Jan 2004 (UTC)

List organization

As with the other lists of this type, the side-by-side lists are organized so that they are exactly the same length, which gives us a check that any additions or deletions are made to both lists. Please don't mess this up! Stan 19:25, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Inconsistency problem

Work on adding boats/commentary to the list of United States submarine classes, I've come across the problem here at the list of submarines of the United States Navy. To wit: A problem with how the V series is handled. V-series hulls appears twice, once with their Sx-x/V-x designation, once with the SS-xxx/name designation. I haven't dug far enough to see if the same problem occurs for other pre-WWII hulls (which, like the V's) had a weird designation history. How do we handle this and keep the list something resembling useful? Elde 06:02, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

As I create boat articles, I put the article at one of the possible combinations of name and number, then create as many redirects as possible. Then, I usually come back here and fix this list to point to wherever I put the main article. It's not a perfect system -- hell, it's not even a sorta-kinda-okay system -- but it's what I've been doing. (I certainly don't like the idea of using slashes in article titles.) --the Epopt 19:06, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking too, I.E. (SF-7/SM-1) V-4 and (SM-1) Argonaut and (SS-166) Argonaut should all point to USS Argonaut (SS-166). Maybe the first line of those articles should refer to the variant designations?

The SS-xxx sequence is more-or-less unambiguous, so I propose that the 'master' article always be under the USS obscurefish (SSx-xxx) title, with redirects to that article from the variant designators. Some of the SSK's may have to be moved though I think. I think they were all redesignated into the SS- sequence. <sigh> My reference is still missing. Elde 19:39, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Nearly done!

Boy, there aren't a lot of red links left on this page. But why move Barb from ahead of Barbel to after Barbero? —wwoods 01:37, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Entries missing

While at the alphabetic column the three boats of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seawolf_class_submarine (SSN-21 Seawolf, SSN-22 Connecticut, SSN-23 Jimmy Carter) does show up, they appear to be missing on the hull-number column (wonder how that could have happened) - but as both columns appear to be of nearly exact the same length even by now, thus after adding them there, the columns would be of different length I guess, so, in turn there probably is something in the hull-column which is missing in the alphabetic column - maybe there is a general problem with entries sharing the same hull-number (in the hull-number column, there are entries for SS-21, SS-22, SS-23, which are of course not the Seawolf-class submarines)? 178.201.86.212 (talk) 04:41, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

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