Talk:Live fire exercise
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US view
[edit]The article presents the operations solely of the United States armed forces: "The Navy", "The Air Force", etc. Perhaps someone would like to revise the text and headings to give a global view of what is, after all, a global military activity. --BillC 01:28, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- I would, but I have only lived in the US. Sorry I can not be of more help, but your right. The article predominatly represents US views. TomStar81 01:52, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for your responsiveness. I'll take a look at it when I can, though it's not really my area of expertise. BillC 20:25, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- Well, you know what they say: Every little bit counts. At any rate, the templete tag will ensure that the page recieves information from a global community sooner or later. TomStar81 20:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- I've added a globalise tag which i think is more appropriate to the needs of this page. Suggested additions include looking at the history of live fire - for example it was a major factor in the napoleonic wars where the british experience with real gunpowder allowed them to fire more quickly than almost all of the other armies of the period.Micah23 23:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
live fire
[edit]"some forces, especially in more authoritarian societies, have also been known to use live ammunition against their own forces in military exercises,[citation needed]"
- soldiers in most armies are made to crawl under live Machine Gun fire - teaches them how important it is to keep down —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.160.17 (talk) 17:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
- That's nonsense. It certainly has been used by some forces in the past, but nowadays it's by no means common - indeed, I would suggest that it's rare, at least in the developed world. But it's a very common myth. Torak (talk) 22:48, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
As of late 2005 it was used at Ft Benning. On towers over 25-ft high, M240s fixed at the horizontal were live fired overhead in a night time LFX as one squad at a time covers 100 meters from one station to another under barbed wire strings. During each squad's iteration 2 flairs are launched. Until the flares hit the ground the soldiers soldiers must remain still, face in the dirt. Also pyrotechnics (concertina wire was placed around them) to simulate mortar hits. I am sure that sources are available online. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.243.166 (talk) 08:05, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
At historical reenactments
[edit]"Sometimes historical reenactments, such as those done for the Battle of Gettysburg, will include live fire demonstrations so the general public can observe historical equipment in action." I won't say no, but this seems unlikely due to safety issues; if true, I think it needs a source. cmadler (talk) 14:50, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
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Claim about the Waffen SS
[edit]The sentence "German Waffen SS training involved the usage of live ammunition, designed to make the soldiers tougher than regular soldiers" does not actually say how the live ammunition was used, but the fact that it's under the heading "Use against training soldiers" seems to imply Waffen SS trainees were shot at with live ammunition. However, the cited source says only "The training was considered tougher than that of the Army's, since Waffen-SS training involved the use of live ammunition". Perhaps this sentence should be moved? Or even deleted entirely, given that it's not clear the Waffen SS were particularly unusual in their use of live ammunition, in which case there'd no reason to give them special emphasis. Chris Hallquist (talk) 03:21, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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