Talk:Maarten van Rossem
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Maarten van Rossem is also a public interlectual and historian in the Netherlands. His books haven't been translated into English to my knowledge. --IIVeaa (talk) 22:05, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Notoriety
[edit]This person's only claim to notoriety is one book, The United States in the 20th century of which the article only mentions in passing, and a couple short TV appearances, mainly the one about the presidential elections. I suggest deleting the article or else rewriting it to put more emphasis as to why this man is important.Editfromwithout (talk) 17:43, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
- He is quit notable in The Netherlands, although I don't believe much of his writing has been translated or published in the English speaking world. —Ruud 00:38, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Also, I'm not quite sure why you considered his appointment as professor irrelevant? —Ruud 00:47, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- I've added more references. I think it's fairly clear now that he is a prominent member of Dutch society. I also think the section on his relation to Theo van Gogh should return. It's not central to his work, but it's the only thing people alien to the Netherlands can relate to since the murder got international attention. --Vera (talk) 12:35, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- I am not sure the Van Gogh part should return. It is not a necessity to establish notability, as the policy does not require notability "in the English-language sphere", and the dutch articles show notability sufficiently. I therefore should only be added if it is central to him (and that I don't know...) L.tak (talk) 11:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
- I inserted a section on Van Gogh's page about the cremation ceremony, making this less of an orphan. --Vera (talk) 14:47, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
- I am not sure the Van Gogh part should return. It is not a necessity to establish notability, as the policy does not require notability "in the English-language sphere", and the dutch articles show notability sufficiently. I therefore should only be added if it is central to him (and that I don't know...) L.tak (talk) 11:36, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
- I've added more references. I think it's fairly clear now that he is a prominent member of Dutch society. I also think the section on his relation to Theo van Gogh should return. It's not central to his work, but it's the only thing people alien to the Netherlands can relate to since the murder got international attention. --Vera (talk) 12:35, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
Academic career
[edit]Did Van Rossem finish his Ph.D.? If the title "drs." is correct, then it implies he didn't and the infobox should probably reflect this under the label "Education". Also, if I remember correctly, he was appointed as a "bijzonder hoogleraar" instead of a regular (full) professor. The article should probably note this. —Ruud 12:28, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
- He first got his doctorate, and then his Ph.D. It took him 8 and 12 years to finish his those [ 1 ], but he did in the end. In KRO Profiel he mentions how he recently reread it and thought it wasn't all that bad. you're right on the bijzonder leraarschap, not sure how to translate that though.--Vera (talk) 13:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, it seems the title given in the article was just wrong. —Ruud 17:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
- Dutch academic titles can be a bit of a pain to translate, but in English "doctorate" always refers to a Ph.D. A "doctoraal" (old-style Master degree) can be translated as "doctoral", although this will probably be misunderstood to refer to a Ph.D. as well. —Ruud 19:02, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.
The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.
Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:40, 23 April 2015 (UTC)