Talk:Maidenhead

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Just out of curiosity: what do the British living in Maidenhead think of their town's name, which is also referring to the hymen of a female body? Don't they feel embarrassed or what? -- Jerry Crimson Mann 16:02, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

As an Englisher not living in Maidenhead, I can say that I find it greatly hilarious, and always laugh to think of it. But no one else seems to care much, it often passes without mention.
Thanks for telling. :-) -- Jerry Crimson Mann 15:34, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
As an Englishman that is living in (very near) Maidenhead, I must say that I don't really think about or notice the meaning. Just like those in New York do not pause to think about York. Over-familiarity blunts its meaning — just like the "Virgin" brand. Cheeselog3000 22:04, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
Well, As a user living by the brunel bridge, I have had many a laugh about the name, but never really discussed it, I don't think it's worth mentioning though. NickBrett 10:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I've lived in Maidenhead for 12 years now and I don't think I've ever really thought about it. It's just a name. In any case 'maidenhead' (without a capital 'M') is hardly a common word, and I doubt most people are even aware of it. Now on the other hand, if I lived in Pratt's Bottom I might have a different opinion! Stewart Robertson 08:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I live very near Maidenhead, and as a young Englisher I can say that I have never heard that terminology for a hymen used in this country, so it doesn't seem particularly relevant. Nonmeculpa 20:41, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
In other words, it's probably what the residents of Fucking, Austria think of their town's name. (German is spoken in Austria.) 204.52.215.107 (talk) 20:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Dividing Maidenhead Up[edit]

Have started to divide up the large block of text that made up this page into subheadings, aiming to eventually end up with something like High Wycombe or Petersfield, Hampshire. I will add more content and maybe even a picture or two soon... --Mf4749 23:48, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

External links[edit]

We need to look at these and thin them out a bit, there should be just a few highly relevant ones. I suggest we keep one of each type and delete the rest? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scotbotuk (talkcontribs) .

I'd remove the business directories, but leave the clubs. The council website should definitely stay, and since the Maidenhead Advertiser is well established and historic, I'd leave that in. All Saints is only one church amongst many, it isn't the town church, and I don't think the Conservation Volunteers or the Salvation Army Band are needed either. CarolGray 11:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree. I removed the business directory a couple of times but someone kept adding it again (same thing happened on the Twyford entry with a business directory run by the same people so I think it's link spamming.) I'll review and remove superflous links later today. Scotbotuk 11:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Suburbs?[edit]

Hi, Having lived and gone to school in Maidenhead I can't agree with the way the suburbs are described. It may reflect the civil parishes but they are not suburbs, all the places listed are part of the town itself (just look on Google maps) there are no undeveloped areas in between and they have about the same level of housing development as the centre. For example, Woodland's park is in Maidenhead, then there is a less developed area before you arrive at White Waltham. 'Boyn Hill' is right next to the town centre and has an industrial estate, the same goes for Furze Platt. We should list this information under 'civil parishes' or something instead? Alexander-Scott 09:43, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you that Furze Platt and Boyn Hill are part of Maidenhead. But historically Cox Green was a separate village (with its own church, village hall, shop/PO etc) and it is separated from the town by the A308(M) motorway. There are still fields (on one side of the road) between Cox Green and Woodlands Park. CarolGray 10:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
All of the places listed are integral parts of the Maidenhead urban area as can be seen from google maps or any other image from the air. Every town has such areas, they used to be separate but are not any more, and are no longer suburbs. For example have a look here: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=cox+green&ie=UTF8&z=14&ll=51.512642,-0.734625&spn=0.026922,0.086517&t=h&om=1 and it becomes clear. The A404 separates parts of Maidenhead but that doesn't mean they are suburbs, any more than in any other town with a bypass through the centre of which there are thousands.Alexander-Scott 10:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
On the Council's website, the Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead is subdivided into:
Maidenhead, containing the following wards:
Belmont ward
Boyn Hill ward
Furze Platt ward
Maidenhead Riverside ward
Oldfield Ward
Pinkneys Green ward
Windsor...
Northern wards and parishes, including
Cox Green ward and parish...
and Bray, and the Walthams
Southern wards and parishes...
I don't think urban sprawl makes Cox Green part of Maidenhead, any more than Burnham is part of Slough. CarolGray 16:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
As I added this section, I have tried to tidy it up a bit. However, I think you need to explain your definition of a 'suburb'. Ask Oxford simply says, "an outlying residential district of a city." Wikipedia's own article says they are "inhabited districts located either inside a town or city's outer rim or just outside its official limits" and "in Ireland and the United Kingdom..."suburb" refers to residential neighbourhoods outside of the city centre." It also states: "Inhabitants of these areas generally identify with the central city, and often consider themselves to be inhabitants of the central city. Indeed, neighbourhoods within a city proper that share physical and social characteristics with the suburbs as already described -- such as a relatively low residential density and a scarcity of industrial properties -- are also often called suburbs." So take your pick.
Yes, all the places listed are part of the Maidenhead urban area. That's why I listed them. However, being part of the urban area does not make a place "part of the town itself". Maidenhead has specific boundaries. My definition of what lies outside these boundaries, in other civil parishes, was obviously not clear enough and I hope this now reads better. Woodlands Park is part of the Maidenhead urban area, but is not "in Maidenhead". It is in the civil parish of White Waltham. All this is confirmed by Carol's findings above.
I think of suburbs as being part of an urban area, but on the outer rim. How deeply suburbs penetrate towards the town/city centre may vary. However, it is stated in the discussion above that areas which "used to be separate but are not any more...are no longer suburbs". I cannot find any information to confirm this view that a suburb should in some way be detached from the main urban area. It is certainly not how I see most surburbs. I might include such detached areas in a definition of 'suburbs' in relation to vast urban areas such as London, but I think I would probably refer to them instead as 'suburbia', which is something slightly different. Hope this helps clarify things. Verica Atrebatum 16:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Fair enough. I know that most people living in Maidenhead consider all those areas to be part of the town, however there are technicalities which separate them in a legal and administrative sense. There is no similarity between the cox green and Burnham examples because Cox green is an integral part of the Maidenhead conurbation whereas Burnham is linked to Slough by corridors of development alongside main roads and is several miles away from the main Slough conurbation. They appear completely different in aerial views. I agree with the definition of suburbs as above and I think the problem is that Maidenhead is too small and densely developed for anyone to be able to tell these areas are somehow separate from the 'town centre' except on paper.
The current wording, seeking as it does to avoid getting drawn too far into the 'what is a suburb' debate, is very nicely judged. There's an inconsistency though. The 'Maidenhead Urban Area' section includes Holyport as part of the urban area, but the 'Environs' section says Holyport is to the south of the town. Personally I think the latter is definitely correct - the Holyport article itself says that Holyport is not part of Maidenhead - so I've changed it. If anybody disagrees, let's discuss it here.Stewart Robertson 16:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
The Google map satellite view shows that Holyport is not closely linked to the main urban area of Maidenhead http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=holyport&sll=54.162434,-3.647461&sspn=13.096111,29.882813&ie=UTF8&ll=51.494958,-0.713425&spn=0.054292,0.173035&t=k&z=13&om=1 Alexander-Scott 16:29, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I suppose there is just about a gap at the roundabout, but I agree, most people do think of Holyport as separate. Verica Atrebatum 17:30, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Quite. And the same could be said by most people in many of the other villages. So I've gone ahead and deleted the adjective "suburban" from the intro. It is highly contentious - see above - and there is no consensus for its retention. Look, I grew up in Holyport and altho it has changed markedly, there is absolutely no way that Holyport, with its village green and all the rest of it, can be described as suburban. You can prove anything with statistics, they say. It looks like the same can be said for technical definitions of words such as suburbs. Boscaswell talk 00:00, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Sainsbury's[edit]

What do we think about adding a short section about new town developments, e.g. new Sainsbury's? Musicamania4 19:24, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be a very good idea, does any one have any good basis information about our towns new develoments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.225.166.188 (talk) 21:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Merging[edit]

I haven't made it official at the top because some people will have stronger views on this, but as a suggestion, is there a need for the page List of schools in Windsor and Maidenhead with the section on schools in this page? --Drumncars1996 (talk) 20:37, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

WP:SEAOFBLUE[edit]

Would someone with more time on their hands than I have like to run through this whole article and remove the horribly excessive wiki links. Thanks! Boscaswell talk 00:19, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

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