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Depots

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There were tram depots on Fredrick Road, Salford picture here and Boyle Street, where the transport museum is housed. Were these owned by this company? Richerman (talk) 11:17, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but these were both built by the respective transport Departments of Salford and Manchester. Part of the section of Boyle Street housing the Museum was not built for some years after the main building. None of the company premises transferred to the Corporations. I beleive Grey Street might have been used as a wartime expedient. (have seen a photo somewhere) --Keith 14:40, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

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Is there a suitable infobox that could be added to this article (tl:Infobox company?)? Did MC&TC have a logo? --Jza84 |  Talk  00:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I guess {{Infobox Company}} would be the one. I haven't found any evidence that the company had a logo though. --Malleus Fatuorum 01:04, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would imagine they would have had their own livery though - would a rectangle showing the colours do? Richerman (talk) 14:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Their livery was red and cream, presumably the same shades as the horse-drawn omnibus at the Museum of Transport.[1] On the trams though the company did start to display its name in a stylised way, which I might be able to get a decent scan of from some b&w photographs I've got. --Malleus Fatuorum 14:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That looks good. Richerman (talk) 00:13, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline

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I don't see why the timeline has been added to this article - and the explanation at the top of the section certainly doesn't belong there - If you have to explain why it's needed then it probably isn't needed. The Manchester Carriage Company went into liquidation in 1903 so anything after that date isn't relevant to this article. And what does "As such it is reference from other files" mean? Anything that goes into an article needs to be referenced in that article. How about creating a new article about the timeline of Manchester City public transport and linking to it from here? Also, there shouldn't be any external links in the main body of the article - they need to go in an "External links" section at the bottom see Wikipedia:Manual of Style#External links Richerman (talk) 19:01, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is there to show the continuing history of Manchester's public Transport, showing its development. There is no similar list in existence, on or off wiki. It is a "single paragraph" which is relevant to any of the entitiess shown within it - many of which have a page in their own right. As such I did not think it merited an individual entry. It has been improved by a) specifying references - quite easy, and b) splitting the later years properly. It is relevant to this company and the locale.

The only external links, in whole of article, are to descriptive images which are currently unavailable for inclusion on wikipedia. I am not willing to enter into the semantics. If you care to be constructive and make a positive contribution, you are welcome. --Keith 05:35, 26 June 2010 (UTC) (as amended Keith 08:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Ah, so it was unconstructive of me to say I didn't understand the explanation and that it needed references but you changed it and added the references anyway. Well I've tried harder now and moved the external links to their correct place. Richerman (talk) 01:10, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The banner at the top of Wikipedia:Manual of Style#External links does make comment of using common sense. Shifting them, as has been done, seems to indicate this isnt being practiced. --Keith 04:46, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Manchester Carriage and Tramways Company L53

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Would it be OK to start a little article on L53 using info. from here? I have done another page on Manchester Corporation Tramways No.765 and would also like one on No. 173. No.765 has proved slightly controversial so thought I might ask here first. The logic for having a separate tram article is instead of duplicating stuff from here on the Heaton Park Tramway article. I do not plan t remove anything from here. Anyway Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 09:27, 26 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I, as originator, would have no objection - with the usual proviso "as long as you do a good job!!". and good luck. If your article develops well, then I see no reason why the content in this article may not be reduced to a link to it.

However, you may encounter "flak" from wikipedian overseers who will probably question every aspect, including the notability of the subject. Ensure you have relevant references. Try contact HPT for more info and usage of their material. (phone no on website.) I would support you on that score.

As for 173, please remember this technically is a Manchester Corporation" Tram, albeit designed by the old MCTC. --Keith 09:46, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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