Talk:Maria Sharapova/GA5

GA Review

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 03:44, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will start this review over the weekend.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:44, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There were several nominations and reassessments of this aritcle in 2008, but I will consider this a completely new review.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
~~The toolbox to the right show 5 dead external links.~~--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:53, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The toolserver has been a bit wonky lately, but I assume we saw the same five dead links, I've found and added archive url's for all of them. Courcelles 03:03, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WP:LEAD

~~I would reserve the LEAD for more permanent facts than how many Russians are in the top 100.~~--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Agreed, gone. Courcelles 03:26, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
~~Not sure you really need the redundant fact that she is the top Russian and only top 10 Russian. One or the other.~~--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Courcelles 03:34, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Since she has been ranked #1 for only 21 weeks and last attained number one on June 11, 2012, we know she has since lost the rank. I think what is important is the last date she held the rank. Something like she last reached number one for an x-week reign ending on Month DD, YYYY.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Courcelles 03:34, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Has anyone ever completed the career slam with their 4th Grand Slam win?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Shirley Fry Irvin did it in four wins (her only four) as well. (Steffi Graf and Serena Williams hit the mark on their fifth titles) Courcelles 03:23, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Early life

~~It is difficult for many readers of EN WP to recollect which Soviet country is which. I'd link Belarus.~~--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:27, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, but I sort of suspect it is common enough of a term someone with AWB will be along to unlink it before long. Courcelles 03:38, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
~~I'd also consider linking hand-eye coordination.~~--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:27, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Courcelles 03:37, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Juniors and early career

~~on her birthday -> on her 14th birthday.~~--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:36, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Courcelles 03:39, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"where she reached the finals of the Australian Open and Wimbledon in 2002" needs the phrase "junior championship" somewhere. Otherwise it might seem as if she played in junior tournaments to qualify for the regular opens.---TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:36, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Reworded. Courcelles 03:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2003 - First tournament titles

Did she defeat any ranked or notable players to win here first two tournaments?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- She defeated some top 100 players.--Tomcat (7) 11:20, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2004 - Winning Wimbledon

Any notable wins in first paragraph?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"She entered the top 10 in the rankings for the first time as a result of the win." needs a citation.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Done--Tomcat (7) 11:15, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What position did she enter at?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"making the final of a Tier I event for the first time" hadn't she already won a slam?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Grand Slams are not Tier 1 events--Tomcat (7) 11:23, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No need to link Serena twice in this section.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Done--Tomcat (7) 11:15, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2005 - World no. 1

to reach the top 3 -> to reach number 3.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Done--Tomcat (7) 11:15, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"The following fortnight" confuses me.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Removed--Tomcat (7) 11:15, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2006 - US Open champion

"The following fortnight" again.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Removed--Tomcat (7) 11:15, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2007 - Shoulder injury and fall out of the top 5

Not sure what is right here. Should it be "being two points away from defeat" or "facing double matchpoint"? I know what the proper tennis jargon is, but I am not sure what WP should present.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:46, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Those aren't the same thing, though. "Two points from defeat" means the other player is at 30, Sharapova is at less than 30, so two consecutive points lost means match lost. "Double matchpoint means facing a score of 40-15, where Sharapova must WIN the next two points to avoid losing the match. Courcelles 00:06, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
From my understanding of tennis and who the subjects of the sentence are "ranked world no. 81 at the time" most likely refers to Pin, but the sentence is a mess because of the distance from the referent.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:46, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Serena was the one ranked 81... let me see if I can adjust it... Courcelles 00:11, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Who uses this word fortnight and what does it mean?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:46, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Fortnight is two weeks, and is very common in tennis terms, as it is the length of the Grand Slam tournaments. Courcelles 00:09, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No need to link Serena twice in this section either (if at all), Venus, or Ana Ivanovic.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:46, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Courcelles 00:16, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Attach months to wins in "Sharapova clinched the US Open Series by defending her title at the Acura Classic, her only championship of the year, and reaching the semifinals in Los Angeles"--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:46, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2008 - Australian Open champion and recurrence of shoulder injury

Y

2009 - Shoulder surgery and rehabilitation

the nadir being world no. 126. On what date?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:06, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am FAILing this article. I apologize for stringing you along, but I am just now realizing how much work is needed for this article. At a minimum, each paragraph needs a citation and each fact should be cited, meaning you really have a lot of work to do on this article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:06, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- There is a general link which leads to all results.--Tomcat (7) 08:52, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Additionally, WP:GA? states "it provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines;[3] and". Now explain why scores need in-line citation, especially if there is a direct link.--Tomcat (7) 09:11, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Please review WP:IC. The first line of the main body says they are required at WP:GA. You are free to request reconsideration of my decision at WP:GAR.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:30, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      - They are not needed if there is a general reference which supports miscellaneous information. Additionally the article becomes too large if putting redundant references.--Tomcat (7) 10:34, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
        Take it up at WP:GAR.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 10:50, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You also need to tag all your images with {{personality rights}}--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:06, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't think that is required.--Tomcat (7) 08:52, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - She is an international celebrity spokesperson/model on top of being a world class athlete. Anyone on all the hot babe/desirable woman lists is a personality that should have these tags on their images.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:32, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - You haven't answered my question. Being a "hot babe" is not a reason to tag it with a "personality rights" banner.--Tomcat (7) 10:34, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]