Talk:Martin Luther King Middle School (Berkeley)

This article was nominated for deletion on 23 September 2013 (UTC). The result of the discussion was The consensus was Redirect. Already redirected.'.

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Merge Proposal[edit]

I removed the tag to merge this article with the BUSD article because: the proposal wasn't mentioned here in the discussion; because the BUSD article is more in the form of a list with an intro about the district only; and because there is more material for this school than any of the others except for the high school, which has its own extensive article. Tmangray (talk) 23:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect Witout Text Transfer[edit]

Please don't redirect an article without transferring its text, thus losing important information. And please don't take an action like that without giving notice. A mere reference to guidelines is insufficient. This article probably qualifies as "notable" to stand apart as it may well be the first school that was named for MLK, pending further research.Tmangray (talk) 05:40, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't try to impose your view as some sort of policy. Bold edits are allowed, no notice is needed, no discussion is needed and your assertion that it may well be the first school to change its name to honor Dr. King is neither referenced (which in case you didn't know, is where notability comes from) nor even a valid claim to notability. The only thing about this school that would be needed to be transferred to the school district article would be the claim about the renaming, but I don't see a source for that, so I didn't do it. It was not merged, it was redirected, as a middle school article should be. Since you have opposed this, it is at AfD now. Gtwfan52 (talk) 05:45, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

But what is the intent of the policy you cite? I'm far from understanding the arcane legalisms of the wiki world, but I'm certain I share that with most wiki editors. I assume, perhaps incorrectly, that it's always the intent of a policy and not the mere legalism that's important, and that "bold" editing should proceed only for more than mere housekeeping reasons. In this particular case, I'm not that wedded to keeping this an independent article, but I do wonder why Wikipedia would wish to constract and constrict. I always imagined that it would be a wide open communal encyclopedia right down to the most trivial facts. But perhaps it comes down to server space.

My suggestion is that, if conformity to the letter of some policy is required, that some of the basic factual information about the school be transferred to the district article, attached to the listing for this school. I would be happy to do the editing.

One last thing...could you point me to the specific page where the policy you cite is/has been discussed? I'm not about to engage a debate about it, I'm just curious to see how these things operate. Thank you. Tmangray (talk) 06:37, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]