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Reviewer: Argento Surfer (talk · contribs) 19:16, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
It may take two days for me to complete my initial review. I will note/pass items as I go along. You don't need to wait for me to finish to begin addressing them. Most of my comments are open for discussion, so feel free to question anything. Once complete, I will be claiming points for this review in the 2017 WikiCup.
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Games
- Does "arcade systems" mean "Arcade game"? If so, why not say it was released as an "arcade game" with a link?
- Done Wani (talk) 19:16, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- "ported" should link to Porting
- Done Wani (talk) 19:16, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Street Fighter is linked directly, but no link for X-Men?- Should I link the X-Men portion of X-Men vs. Street Fighter or something? The term by itself (instead of part of a title) doesn't appear until the development section. Wani (talk) 19:16, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- I didn't see the link in Development when I added this one. Argento Surfer (talk) 19:30, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, I just added that. My fault. Wani (talk) 19:40, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- I didn't see the link in Development when I added this one. Argento Surfer (talk) 19:30, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Should I link the X-Men portion of X-Men vs. Street Fighter or something? The term by itself (instead of part of a title) doesn't appear until the development section. Wani (talk) 19:16, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- "Marvel universe" should link to Marvel Universe
- Done Wani (talk) 19:16, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Does "arcade systems" mean "Arcade game"? If so, why not say it was released as an "arcade game" with a link?
- Gameplay
- "...players select multiple to form..." missing the word characters here
- Done Wani (talk) 19:19, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- "This feature was replaced in..." This sentence is a little choppy. I suggest combining it with the following sentence.
- Done Wani (talk) 19:19, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- "...players select multiple to form..." missing the word characters here
- Characters
- "The games have seldom introduced original characters, which include... " I think seldom is an awkward adjective here. I think "Rarely, the games have introduced original characters such as..." or something similar.
- Done Wani (talk) 19:22, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Is there a character article that Abyss can link to?Upon inspection, I see there is not.
- "The games have seldom introduced original characters, which include... " I think seldom is an awkward adjective here. I think "Rarely, the games have introduced original characters such as..." or something similar.
- Development
- "Community, Seth Killian, stated " The commas aren't needed here as worded. Was Killian the "former" Marketing Director when he said this? If not, I suggest rephrasing it as "In 2011, then-current [title] Seth Killian stated..."
- Done Wani (talk) 19:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- "Capcom lost the use of the Marvel license" to whom? Any reason given? What year did they get it back? I assume 2010, but this is not stated.
- All sources are pretty vague on the details here. I assume their licensing contract simply expired, similar to what happened after the release of Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to find a reference for that. Wani (talk) 19:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- I hate when that happens. If nothing's available, this is not an issue. Argento Surfer (talk) 19:39, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- All sources are pretty vague on the details here. I assume their licensing contract simply expired, similar to what happened after the release of Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to find a reference for that. Wani (talk) 19:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- "Community, Seth Killian, stated " The commas aren't needed here as worded. Was Killian the "former" Marketing Director when he said this? If not, I suggest rephrasing it as "In 2011, then-current [title] Seth Killian stated..."
- Reception
- "As of December 2016, approximately 7 million units have been sold, currently making it Capcom's eighth best-selling franchise" to avoid potentially becoming dated, I suggest rewriting this as "Approximately 7 million units of the series had been sold by December 2016, making it Capcom's eighth best-selling franchise." or something similar.
- Done Wani (talk) 19:45, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- "As of December 2016, approximately 7 million units have been sold, currently making it Capcom's eighth best-selling franchise" to avoid potentially becoming dated, I suggest rewriting this as "Approximately 7 million units of the series had been sold by December 2016, making it Capcom's eighth best-selling franchise." or something similar.
- Games
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
- no concerns
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Is it verifiable with no original research?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- Citations [17], [24], [49], [55], [63], [64], [65], [100], and [117] use all caps for the page title. Please change these to sentence case.
- Done. But while on the subject, do you have any idea why the reference numbers are being thrown off? For example, [117] in the reference section corresponds to [123] in the reception section. I've tried finding the issue, but wasn't successful. Wani (talk) 19:57, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- It's caused by the 6 notes under the list of characters, although I'm not sure why. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:20, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Done. But while on the subject, do you have any idea why the reference numbers are being thrown off? For example, [117] in the reference section corresponds to [123] in the reception section. I've tried finding the issue, but wasn't successful. Wani (talk) 19:57, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Citations [17], [24], [49], [55], [63], [64], [65], [100], and [117] use all caps for the page title. Please change these to sentence case.
- B. All in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines:
- no concern
- C. It contains no original research:
- Is there a source for the playable characters in the upcoming game?
- Since they are sourced within the Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite article, I wasn't sure if it was necessary. Should I copy the references over anyway? Wani (talk) 20:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- If there's one citation that covers them, it can be added at the top of the table next to the MvCI header. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:20, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Done Wani (talk) 20:41, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- If there's one citation that covers them, it can be added at the top of the table next to the MvCI header. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:20, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Since they are sourced within the Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite article, I wasn't sure if it was necessary. Should I copy the references over anyway? Wani (talk) 20:00, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Is there a source for the playable characters in the upcoming game?
- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
- Earwig has some weak returns due to the various game names. One strong match between the article's "which showcased a two-on-one fight with Ryu and Ken against M. Bison" and the source's "which showcased a two-on-one fight of Ryu and Ken against M. Bison." This needs to be reworded or more accurately quoted.
- Done Wani (talk) 20:03, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Earwig has some weak returns due to the various game names. One strong match between the article's "which showcased a two-on-one fight with Ryu and Ken against M. Bison" and the source's "which showcased a two-on-one fight of Ryu and Ken against M. Bison." This needs to be reworded or more accurately quoted.
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Does the minimate line not warrant a mention in the related media? Some sources can be found here.
- Done Wani (talk) 20:34, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Is there any explanation for the ten year delay between 2 and 3?I now see this is discussed in the Development section.
- Does the minimate line not warrant a mention in the related media? Some sources can be found here.
- B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
- no concern
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- no concern
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- Is it stable?
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- The article is actively edited, but no obvious vandalism or edit warring.
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Rationales provided
- B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
- The use of "current" in the infobox caption is vague and may become MOS:DATED. I suggest revising it to "Marvel vs Capcom logo used since YEAR", or something similar. Per WP:CAPTION#Succinctness, the caption for the image in Gameplay is too long. It needs to be shortened and/or the image size should be upscaled.
- I shortened the caption. Is it still too long or is it good? Wani (talk) 20:46, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- It works for me.
- I shortened the caption. Is it still too long or is it good? Wani (talk) 20:46, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- The use of "current" in the infobox caption is vague and may become MOS:DATED. I suggest revising it to "Marvel vs Capcom logo used since YEAR", or something similar. Per WP:CAPTION#Succinctness, the caption for the image in Gameplay is too long. It needs to be shortened and/or the image size should be upscaled.
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass pending minor concerns listed above
- Additional note - does Diamond Comics link to the right article? It's currently pointing at a publisher in India. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:20, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Nope, it did not. Corrected now. Wani (talk) 20:38, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the corrections - promoted. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:10, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
- Nope, it did not. Corrected now. Wani (talk) 20:38, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Additional note - does Diamond Comics link to the right article? It's currently pointing at a publisher in India. Argento Surfer (talk) 20:20, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Pass pending minor concerns listed above
- Pass or Fail: