Talk:Mercedes-Benz Sprinter/Archive 1
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Lokon Jiachuan Ford Transit
Someone mixed up the Lokon Ford Transit with the Xinkai Mercedes Sprinter. The Lokon Ford Transit is available with a Sprinter lookalike option (headlights,hood & fenders). But this doesn't make a Sprinter. I'm going to undo the changes of TheAutoJunkie until he can show up with valid sources for his claims that a Ford Transit is a Sprinter. Here are two photos: One showing the Lokon Jiachuan based on the 4th gen. Ford Transit and one showing a Sprinter. They're completely different vehicles. Doorhandles, B-pillar, everything ....
???
Is the US Sprinter really available with a gasoline engine? Will anyone write an article about the Mercedes-Benz T1 van?!
- There is an article; go to Mercedes-Benz TN. 194.25.108.84 13:18, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Mercedes-Benz connection
To be clear, are the Dodge/Freightliner Sprinters sold in North America manufactured by Mercedes-Benz? Which year-models have the inline-5 turbodiesel?
- All model years from 1995 to 2006 are using the 5 cylinder turbodiesel.194.25.108.84 13:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yes they are manufactured in Germany. Then broken down and shipped to North America. They are then reassembled and sold under the Dodge/Freightliner band name. Dodge/Freightliner has a little bit different engine to meet Dodge factory standards. The only other difference is brand logo on the grill and steering wheel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.85.45.226 (talk) 21:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
New 2006 Sprinter
There's no mention of the new generation Sprinter [1], which is already available in Europe. GagHalfrunt 13:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Mercedes in America
I saw a Mercedes Sprinter on the road last sunday, but I didn't notice what side the wheel was on.--Jnelson09 18:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've seen some Mercedes-Benz Sprinters in America, too. Since when have they been sold in the USA? Sgt. Bond 00:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
What is the difference between the Dodge Sprinter and the Freightliner? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.61.232 (talk) 02:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
The Freightliner Sprinter is the same van with the Freightliner badge. The Sprinters you see in the U.S. with the Mercedes badge, is actually a Dodge Sprinter with the Mercedes appearance package. It's still assembled in SC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FeralLynX (talk • contribs) 22:09, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Dodge Sprinters in America
There are several Dodge Sprinters in my area... they have the standard American left-handed steering, and I believe have gasoline engines. Ahanix1989 13:33, 09 August 2006
According to Dodge's official website the Sprinter is only available with a diesel engine. Dusty duster 17:17, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Dodge van
Would've been nice if they had kept the American design. The Sprinter is too tall and has small wheels...good for high density Europe but too foreign for the US. RMartinez
- Yeah, I think that was a big mistake on Chrysler's part. Maybe the van will be popular with the business/trucking crowd, but it's so butt-ugly that no consumer will ever buy one. Dodge is giving up a big chunk of the market with that decision. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.109.55 (talk) 02:10, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
... "small wheels" and "too tall" ...wow you have no idea about cars. In Europe it´s important to build a car wiht best perfomace. It´s crazy to use too big wheels for light and heavy commercial vehicle, just becaus of design,... oh my good! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.107.222.79 (talk) 15:30, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Ambulances...
Might there be too many pictures of Sprinter ambulances? 24.197.165.120 04:45, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. And a disproportionate number of photos from Hong Kong. Could someone post images from elsewhere in the world, being used as something other than ambulances? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.128.109.242 (talk) 21:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Who wrote this ****?
- "This is a peculiar statement because where is it that 3.5% of the available market is "immense popularity"?"
Between statements like that and the rest of the copy sounding like a promotional ad for the Sprinter, this article could use some major cleanup...
- Please don't use such language (as was in the title). Thank you! :) Strawberry Island 00:20, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
About the Sprinter
I'm curious as to how the Sprinter was released on the American market. I mean, back in 2002 I saw a Freightliner Sprinter ambulance at an air show, and I was surprised to see one there. It's great that we actually have a European-styled van sold here. I like it better than American-style vans such as the Ford Econoline. Heck, if Mercedes-Benz can sell the Sprinter in the USA, then why not have the Ford Transit sold here, or have the Opel Movano sold here under the Chevrolet & GMC brands? Why is the Sprinter the only van of its kind sold in America? What gives? All that aside, the Sprinter is a cool van. Sgt. Bond 00:46, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
- The reason for not introducing Opel vans or other European vans is because a) most European vans only come with manual transmissions and 4-cylinder engines (or diesel engines), making them inappropriate for the US market. To succeed in the US you MUST have at least V6 power and automatic. and b) importing these vans from Europe would be VERY expensive making them uncompetitive with the local offerings.Davez621 (talk) 03:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
hmm quick one why not make them over in US then no import fees and you can put your v6 with auto gearbox in why you need v6 in them any way it just doing deliveries oh ps the picture that says first generation thats actully a 2nd generation or facelift —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.252.222 (talk) 12:33, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
What's the difference between Dodge Sprinter and Freightliner?
What is the difference between Dodge Sprinter and Freightliner? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.229.61.232 (talk) 02:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- The badge on the front grill and steering wheel and the engine is slightly different. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.85.45.226 (talk) 18:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Future of Dodge Sprinter now that Chrysler's owner has changed?
Now that Chrysler's owner has changed, I can't imagine the Dodge Sprinter being around too much longer? Any word on it's demise? Davez621 (talk) 02:32, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Deafening silence
How can you have an article on a vehicle and NO information about the price???? Haiduc (talk) 02:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
- This is an encylopaedia, not a sales brochure! 78.32.143.113 (talk) 18:23, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Freightliner Sprinter no more?
The official Freightliner Sprinter website (put up 2004) at http://www.fl-sprinter.com/ no longer has any Freightliner Sprinter info. Instead it is a clone of http://www.z-atlas.com/ -- a medical website. Did they abandon or sell the domain name? There is no mention of the Sprinter anywhere on http://www.freightlinertrucks.com/ either. The Wayback machine at http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.fl-sprinter.com/ shows the last snapshot with Freightliner Sprinter info at July 5th 2008.
If Freightliner Sprinter really is no more, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freightliner_Trucks will have to be changed to. It currently says "The Freightliner badge also adorns the Sprinter, a Class 2 van produced by Mercedes-Benz in Europe and marketed through Freightliner dealers, as well as through Chrysler dealers as a Dodge-branded offering." 75.84.238.18 (talk) 20:14, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
Freightliner is still selling Sprinters. The first sentence in this article is wrong. We are a Freightliner dealer in Tampa Florida(www.tampaftl.com),and currently have 2011 models in stock, and 2012 models on order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.221.154.66 (talk) 13:57, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Who says they are substantially more expensive to maintain
Whoever wrote that "It has been noted that Sprinters are substantially more expensive to buy and maintain than their American counterparts" should have documented who it was that "noted" that. "More expensive to buy" I have no problem with -- it's a simple matter of listing the prices, which the article does. "Substantially more expensive"? how big is "substantially"? "More expensive to maintain"? Says who? Commercial vehicles are often made so that they last longer and require less maintenance. 75.84.238.18 (talk) 21:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
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Engine errors
There are a couple of incorrect statements about engine details, including:
"For its engine choices, the Sprinter is currently offered with inline four and inline six cylinder diesel engines; inline six cylinder petrol/gasoline; or liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) engines in Europe, Asia, Australia, and South America. In North America, only the six cylinder 3.0 litre turbodiesel and six cylinder 3.5 litre gasoline engines are offered."
North American 3.5-liter gas V6 dropped in 2009, as Sprinter-Wiki page mentioned below notes, so a more accurate version is: "For its engine choices, the Sprinter is currently offered with inline four and inline six cylinder diesel engines; inline six cylinder petrol/gasoline; or liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) engines in Europe, Asia, Australia, and South America. In North America, only the six cylinder 3.0-liter turbodiesel engine is offered."
Also, the following is not correct: "In 2010[when?], Dodge lost its contract to sell Sprinters in USA/Canada and a subset of Mercedes-Benz dealers gained that franchise, and the OM646 4-cylinder diesel engine replaced by more powerful OM651 4-cylinder diesel engine.[citation needed] Despite the brand change, Sprinters sold in the United States still lack many popular options that are available in Europe, including 4 wheel drive, Command Navigation System,electric sliding doors, and keyless entry (which senses the presence of the key fob and automatically opens a sliding door)."
The OM646 and OM651 engines are only available in Europe currently, and the NAFTA Sprinter does have keyless entry, just no factory-available electric sliding door option, so this should be something like: "In 2010, Chrysler lost its contract to sell Dodge-branded Sprinters in North America, and the franchise reverted back to the existing Freightliner Sprinter dealers and a subset of Mercedes-Benz dealers who had agreed to add the Sprinter to their lineup. Also, the OM642 3.0-liter turbodiesel (used in North American Sprinters since 2007) gained a new emissions setup and improved horsepower and torque ratings, going from 154 hp and 280 ft-lbs. of torque to 188 hp and 325 ft-lbs. of torque. Despite the brand change, Sprinters sold in the United States still lack many popular options that are available in Europe, including 4-wheel drive, Command Navigation System, and electric sliding doors."
The Sprinter wiki page has some of this right, at: [1]. Current specs for NAFTA 2010-2012 Sprinter engines are also listed here: [2]
Greg 1970 (talk) 21:32, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
References
Size??? Dimensions??
Why is there no description of the sizes of the vans? What are the different heights? Lengths? Width? Width of door openings? Types of doors? What about different window arrangements? Seats? 24.252.146.101 (talk) 08:44, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Fuel economy units
There's a heading named "fuel economy" to compare the different versions of the sprinter I guess, but the provided fuel economy is unit-less and lacks context for whether it's city roads or highway or... the values are given as 24, 22, 21... I assume it's miles per gallon. Xiph1980 (talk) 21:43, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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