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Not in cities near Michigan

In cities near Michigan that have divided highways (South Bend, Mishawaka, Fort Wayne, and Greater Toledo. the Michigan Left is not to be found. Neither Indiana nor Ohio departments of transportation seem to have put them in use -- not even on the fairly new Capital Avenue (Indiana 331) between the Indiana Toll Road and the US 20 freeway. Pbrower2a (talk) 22:40, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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RCUT: Michigan left or Superstreet feature?

I disagree with this edit because the diagram of a restricted crossing U-turn on the last page of this document looks just like a Michigan left with a discontinuous side street. This variant does exist in Michigan: 41°48′18″N 86°19′19″W / 41.805°N 86.322°W / 41.805; -86.322 It's missing the direct left turns from the main highway that a superstreet intersection has. However, the document states above the diagram "This type of improvement has been used for several years in Maryland, Tennessee and North Carolina...." where superstreets exist so apparently they think that it's a modified superstreet intersection. Should we mention RCUT on both articles? Should RCUT have its own article? Mapsax (talk) 12:15, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the general description of a Michigan left allows cross traffic on the minor streets. Superstreet is currently described in WP as being a variant of the Michigan left. FHWA also makes a distinction between an RCUT, which allows left turns from the major street, and a "basic RCUT", which does not. --Chaswmsday (talk) 17:05, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So, continuing the glass half full/half empty concept, the companion FHWA studies on the MUT (median U-turn, Michigan left) and RCUT both show examples of this intersection variant, the former on page 116, the latter on page 10. Therefore "RCUT" should appear on both pages. However, I will add the caveat discussed here on the Michigan left article so that the Superstreet article can remain the "default" location. And, since I'm adding this to an already wordy trio of sentences illustrating the terms, I'm going to move the whole thing to a new "Terminology" section. Mapsax (talk) 15:53, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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