Talk:Mid-Atlantic
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Requested move[edit]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:13, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
Mid-Atlantic → Mid-Atlantic (disambiguation) – I think Mid-Atlantic states is the clear primary topic for the term "Mid-Atlantic". I would redirect this title there and include a hatnote to the renamed disambiguation page. Powers T 00:47, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Really? I am no stranger to the "Mid-Atlantic" states, and yet I would expect to find this redirecting to Mid-Atlantic English, if anywhere.
- Given the nature of our search engine, this is probably a superfluous dab page to rbegin with. If we delete it, searchers for Mid-Atlantic X will still find what they're looking for, and save a click. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 02:43, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to agree, but Mid-Atlantic ridge actually gets more hits (on WP) than Mid-Atlantic states. Drmies (talk) 03:58, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- No it doesn't. Powers T 11:49, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Huh? 21276 > 19193. Drmies (talk) 13:54, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Traffic for the ridge is up significantly the last two months, but that appears to be a very recent development and could be an anomaly. And at any rate, no one calls it just "Mid-Atlantic". Powers T 23:09, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Huh? 21276 > 19193. Drmies (talk) 13:54, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- No it doesn't. Powers T 11:49, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Both the ridge and the dialect certainly get plenty of views. Compare here, here, and here. Kauffner (talk) 04:46, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but only the states are commonly called just "Mid-Atlantic" without further qualification. The Mid-Atlantic Ridge would only be used unqualified by geologists and oceanographers. When the average joe on the street says "I'm going to the Mid-Atlantic", they're talking about the states. Powers T 11:49, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- I'm leaning to oppose. When I hear "Mid-Atlantic" in conversation I would generally assume someone is talking about the mid-ocean ridge and, as Kauffner has shown, that is a highly viewed article. Jenks24 (talk) 05:25, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose Mid-Atlantic is the middle of the Atlantic from East to West, also the equatorial Atlantic. A "Mid-Atlantic accent" is an accent that is not definably British or American/Canadian. The Mid-Atlantic hazard zone is where WWII air coverage did not extend so German U-boats could attack shipping... 70.24.251.158 (talk) 07:17, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Comment "Mid-Atlantic states" shows clear US bias. What about usage outside the United States? 70.24.251.158 (talk) 07:19, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose. The case put in the wording for the RM illustrates a growing problem. Too often we find it assumed first that there is or must be a primary topic for any given title, second that it is obvious what that primary topic is, and third that the determination of a primary topic must entail removal of information that obviously helps readers. I am Australian, and have travelled on four continents. I can assure US editors that for our worldwide readership "Mid-Atlantic" does not call to mind certain US states. Even if did do so in many cases, nothing is lost by retaining the present arrangement. Please, let's look carefully at the details of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and similar provisions. Let's read them with an eye to the larger picture: the needs of readers are paramount, and we would need an exceptionally strong argument to go against them. NoeticaTea? 21:51, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose. If you google Mid-Atlantic -Wikipedia, the top result related to the Mid-Atlantic states is No. 9. Kauffner (talk) 16:13, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
- But of the higher-listed results, they either don't have (and never will have articles), or are not called just "Mid-Atlantic" like the U.S. region is. Powers T 22:46, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
- Oppose Mid Atlantic relates to the middle of the Atlantic ocean, it was important in history and should not change.MilkStraw532 (talk) 05:17, 24 October 2011 (UTC)