Talk:Miss Lucy Long
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1920s Jazz
[edit]Nice. Perhaps mention should be made about the 1920s recording of Lucy Long by Perry Bradford's Jazz Phools (with young Louis Armstrong on cornet)? -- Infrogmation 02:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- Laura Smith and James P. Johnson also recorded versions around that time. Same band? — LlywelynII 04:02, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Tarry/dally
[edit]In the interpretation, an assumption is being made that the nineteenth-century audience confused "tarry" with "dally", as the twentieth-century editors appear to do. A paragraph of commentary is built upon this shaky foundation. --Wetman 03:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- Was it not the case in the 19th century that "tarry" could be a synonym for "dally"? It's given as such in the Houghton Mifflin thesaurus. -- BrianSmithson 04:08, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
- No, it's not - you misread the answers.com page - the synonym is given in the second section under "Roget's Thesaurus", not under the "Heritage Dictionary" and, as such, doesn't necessarily refer to 19th century usage. The likelihood is that "dally" as in "dalliance" with it's romantic connotations, is a later development of the original "dally" which meant "delaying" or "spending more than normal time with", all components of a good old fashioned courtship.Scartboy (talk) 20:36, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
- Me again - I've found a US dictionary (Webster) from 1831 on Google Books and it gave the meaning of "tarry" as "to stay, continue, delay" - I can only assume that the sexual connotation of "tarry" in the commentary on the song referred to an implied preference for continuing with unmarried sex instead of marriage. Scartboy (talk) 21:02, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
- No, it's not - you misread the answers.com page - the synonym is given in the second section under "Roget's Thesaurus", not under the "Heritage Dictionary" and, as such, doesn't necessarily refer to 19th century usage. The likelihood is that "dally" as in "dalliance" with it's romantic connotations, is a later development of the original "dally" which meant "delaying" or "spending more than normal time with", all components of a good old fashioned courtship.Scartboy (talk) 20:36, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
References in Other Songs
[edit]Miss Lucy is mentioned in the Hambone/Juba Dance article, as well as the Moby song “Flower” from the Gone in 60 Seconds soundtrack. Both songs are in the southern America slavery-era style, so it’s a good bet that they are references to the same Miss Lucy Long. I’m guessing that there are other period songs that mention a Miss Lucy. Perhaps something could be added about these (an “in-popular-culture” section?) 99.255.2.218 (talk) 17:23, 30 July 2010 (UTC)