Talk:Moldova–Spain relations

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This article was nominated for deletion on 1 June 2009 (UTC). The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Human traficking

I have restored the reference to human trafficking. The article is about "relations" not exclusively "government to government relations". Trade is a commercial enterprise, and covered in all the bilateral articles. Cheers. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:07, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That an article on the trafficking of moldovan woman mentions that some of these women end up in spain says nothing about the bilateral relationship between these two states. The citation provided said nothing, even, about joint moldovan-spanish efforts to deal with this. There may be some targets for this information -- Moldova for instance, Sex trafficking for another and there might be more european specific articles (haven't looked) that might not yet contain the information that moldovan women are frequently trafficked throughout europe. At any rate, the citation provided, as a matter of empirical fact, does not discuss bilateral relations between these two states at all, which is why it's been removed. Yes, this article is about relations between these two states. Or at least, it's supposed to be.Bali ultimate (talk) 18:10, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Once again you are exclusively defining "relations" as "government to government relations". All the articles in this series discuss commercial trade figures that are not "government to government relations". --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:21, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please consult WP:BRD for understanding on why we need discussion before you reinsert the contested material. Please address how this insertion addresses the issue of this bilateral relationship.Bali ultimate (talk) 18:12, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Remember WP:DONTCITEESSAYSASPOLICY?

Ah, Crime in Moldova appears the appropriate target, and it's an article that needs some work.Bali ultimate (talk) 18:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, there is no rule requiring a fact to only appear in one place in Wikipedia. Every reference work repeats information where it is needed. There are hundreds of articles with bits of biographical information on any current president of the US. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:25, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Of course not. But when we have a topic the "facts" presented should be relevant to that topic. In this case, the "fact" in question says nothing about the topic at all.Bali ultimate (talk) 18:27, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Human trafficking

Victor Malarek says underaged women are being trafficked to Spain for the sex trade.^[1] This occurs even though both Moldova and Spain signed the European Convention Against Trafficking in Human Beings.^[2]

Yes, most nations in europe have signed that convetion and all of them continue to have some sex trafficking problems. So what? It says nothing, on its own (your attempt at synth duly noted) about their bilateral relations.Bali ultimate (talk) 18:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Moldova: Lower prices behind sex slavery boom and child prostitution". Tiraspol Times. Retrieved 2009-06-01.
^ "Sex trafficking - Amnesty International welcomes brothel raids in Wales". Amnesty International. Retrieved 2009-06-01.

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[1] "Moldova: Lower prices behind sex slavery boom and child prostitution". Tiraspol Times. Retrieved 2009-06-01.

[2] "Sex trafficking - Amnesty International welcomes brothel raids in Wales". Amnesty International. Retrieved 2009-06-01.

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