Talk:Mr Twin Sister

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I am mystified as to why this page has been nominated for speedy deletion, but here are the reasons as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MUSIC

  • "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself. This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following: Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3] Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories. Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis."

and

  • "Has received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country."

As can be seen from the 'reviews' section at the bottom of the page this band have been given independent press coverage by media including the New York Times, BBC, Pitchfork and Contact Media. These are just the first few I could get hold of - there are many more out there. These references are clearly on show, and it's hard to believe that somebody could fail to notice them. Twin Sister have toured Europe and the USA, with Devendra Banhart, and have had a single released on Domino Records. In what way are they not notable?

As for CSD A7,

  • "An article about a real person, individual animal(s), organization (e.g. band, club, company, etc., except schools), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant."

I'd assumed that this was the reason for the article's previous deletion and added further detail about the coverage in Pitchfork to cover this point. If you don't think it's there then please explain why. I'd also like to add that I have no affiliation or connection with Twin Sister besides liking their music, and that I'm disappointed that any new article now must be attacked by overzealous deletionists. Bienfuxia (talk) 04:09, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


To delete this page at this point -- especially given the band's considerable coverage and lionization in the indie community would be undemocratic and simply make Wikipedia one more unnecessary gatekeeper within the music community. I understand the necessity to delete pages that are completely trivial or have too much of an advertising vibe but for a band that has been featured on numerous major media outlets and has received a great deal of coverage in the alternative press -- it would fly in the face of Wikipedia's stated mission. In other words, if Twin Sister does not qualify as a band important enough to merit a page, than there is a serious problem with what is supposed to be the egalitarian nature of the site in the first place. Is the implication that Pitchfork Media is somehow not a good enough judge or arbiter of standing in the society at large? What is then required? To be on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine? If Twin Sister does not qualify to have a page on Wikipedia, then the bar has been set way too high. I'd similarly like to add I have no affiliation with the band -- I am simply a fan Matthew Record 5:40PM 3/14/2011

Don't worry, Matthew Record, the page is safe for now, it seems. Bienfuxia (talk) 07:01, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Twin Sister[edit]

The band recently changed their name and released a new single, that should be reflected in the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.61.215.195 (talk) 19:07, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If someone has privileges, consider renaming the pagename to "Mr Twin Sister" as this is how it is stylized (omitting the punctuation after "Mr"). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.127.93.154 (talk) 04:10, 6 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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