Talk:Neighborhoods of Kansas City, Missouri
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[edit]Errr, what's the source for this data? I ask because I work in the City's Neighborhood & Community Services Department, and we keep track of the registered neighborhoods. There's actually more like 150 of them, total... -- nae'blis (talk) 03:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, Nae'blis, sadly this is an incomplete list. Being that you work for that department, you must have a list of all 150 neighborhoods. If you could complete the list that would be very helpful. Thanks a lot! 65.28.2.218 12:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well, there's a couple of problems with that idea:
- 1) I don't know who this list is meant to be "registered" with. A lot of them are National Historic sites or similar, which is a more important grouping than our office's.
- 2) Our office gets new groups once or twice a month, at least, to add to our list. Many of them are not "notable" from Wikipedia's perspective, so it would difficult to justify my own decision to add/not add any particular new group; Wikipedia is supposed to be a collaborative effort, and I don't like the idea of being a gatekeeper in that manner. And our method of determining active groups is not published/public/particularly scientific...
- 3) The strange capitalization of this article makes me think perhaps it was copied from somewhere else, which is why I asked originally... maybe we need to start over from scratch, or move them to categories, or something.
- -- nae'blis (talk) 22:17, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- First off I'm glad you created the list as a starting point. Now for the nitpiks:
- 1. I also don't like the "registered" or capitalization. This article should be called List of neighborhoods in Kansas City, Missouri. I would ***STRONGLY*** urge the renaming of the article (it's just a simple move).
- 2. If you have an official list floating around with 150 names or so, by all means replace what's here. Most of the neighborhoods don't have articles yet so you can't do much damage. Obviously you have to be careful to preserve the neighborhoods with articles.
- 3. Don't worry about gatekeeping.
- Anyway, thanks for starting the list. It's a good start. Americasroof 20:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, the name we choose for the article (and I agree the current one is poor) depends a great deal on how we define "neighborhood".
- 40-46 North Neighborhood & Crime Watch
- 49/63 Coalition
- Avalon View Neighborhood Association
- Battleflood Heights Neighborhood Association
- Beacon Hill - McFeders Neighborhood Association
- Belle Acres Neighborhood Association
- Blue Hills Neighborhood Association
- Blue Valley Neighborhood Association
- Boston Heights and Mount Hope Neighborhood Association
- Briarcliff Hills Neighborhood Association
- Broadway Gillham Neighborhood Association
- CAM Neighborhood Association
- Center City Neighborhood Association
- Chaumiere Neighborhood Association
- Chelsea Park Community Group (formerly Greater Corinthian)
- Chouteau Estates Neighborhood Association
- Coleman Highlands Neighborhood Association, Inc.
- Colonial Square Neighborhood Association
- Columbus Park Community Council
- Communities of Northbrook
- Cooley Highlands Neighborhood Association (continues into NKC)
- Country Lane Neighborhood Association
- Coventry-Baughman Neighborhood Association
- Crossroads Community Association
- Davidson Neighborhood Association
- Downtown Neighborhood Association
- E.A.C.C.- East Area Community Coalition (EACC)
- East 23rd St. PAC Neighborhood Association
- East Swope Highlands Neighborhood Association
- Eastwood Hills Community Association
- Fearnedale Neighborhood Association (also listed as Fearne Dale or Fearn Dale)
- Forgotten Homes Neighborhood Association
- Foxtown East Neighborhood Association
- Foxtown West Neighborhood Association
- Freymons Addition Neighborhood Association
- Gashland Neighborhood Association
- Golden Oaks Neighborhood Association
- Green Haven Neighborhood Association
- Gregory Ridge Neighborhood Association
- Here's Waldo Neighborhood Association
- Highridge Manor Neighborhood Association (continues into Pleasant Valley)
- Holiday Hills Neighborhood Association (formerly New Holiday Hills)
- Hyde Park Neighborhood Association
- Independence Plaza Neighborhood Council
- Indian Mound Neighborhood Association
- Indianola Neighborhood Association
- Ivanhoe Neighborhood Council
- Jersey Heights Neighborhood Association
- K -A Manor Neighborhood Association
- KCI Neighborhood Association
- Key Coalition Neighborhood Association
- King Rose Hill Neighborhood Association
- Knoches Park Community Association
- Lewis Heights Neighborhood Association
- Longfellow Community Association (formerly Longfellow-Dutch Hill)
- Lykins Neighborhood Association
- Manheim Park Neighborhood Association
- Maple Park Neighborhood Association
- Marlborough East Neighborhood Association
- Marlborough South Neighborhood Association
- Mid Oaks Neighborhood Association (Prather)
- Morningside Neighborhood Association
- N.O.B.L.E. Association (NOBLE Neighborhood Association)
- North Star Neighborhood Association
- Northend Neighborhood Association
- Oak Park Neighborhood Association
- Old Hyde Park Historic District Neighborhood Association, Inc.
- Old Northeast, Inc.
- Original Loma Vista Neighborhood Association
- Palestine Neighborhood Corporation Inc
- Park Farms Neighborhood Watch
- Parvin Estates Neighborhood Association
- Paseo West Neighborhood Association
- Patterson Highlands Neighborhood Association
- Pendleton Heights Neighborhood Association
- Plaza Westport Neighborhood Association
- Prather Hills Neighborhood Association
- Ravenwood Summerset Neighborhood Association
- Red Bud Estates Neighborhood Association
- River Forest Neighborhood Association (continues into North KC)
- Riverview Neighborhood Association
- Rockhill Crest Neighborhood Association
- Rockhill Gardens Neighborhood Association
- Rockhill Manor Neighborhood Association
- Rockhill Ridge Neighborhood Association
- Royal Oaks Neighborhood Association (mostly in Weatherby Lake, MO)
- Santa Fe Neighborhood Association
- Scarritt Rennaisance Neighborhood Association
- Searcy Creek Parkway Neighborhood Association
- Sheffield Neighborhood Association
- Sheraton Estates Neighborhood Association
- South Plaza Neighborhood Association
- South Round Top Neighborhood Association
- Southern Comfort Neighborhood Association
- Southmoreland Neighborhood Association
- Squier Park Neighborhood Association
- Staley Farm Neighborhood Association
- Sterling Acres Neighborhood Association
- Sunnyslope Hills Neighborhood Association
- Sunset Dixon Neighborhood Association
- Sunset Hill Neighborhood Association
- Swope Park Campus Neighborhood Association
- Swope Parkway/Elmwood (S.P.E.N.A. or SPENA)
- The Hidden Jewel Neighborhood (formerly Highview/Bent Tree)
- Thistle Neighborhood Watch Association
- Tiffany Springs Neighborhood Association
- Town Fork Creek Neighborhood Association
- Troost Plateau Neighborhood Association
- Troostwood Neighborhood Association
- Union Hill Neighborhood Association
- United Neighborhood Association
- Valentine Neighborhood Association
- Vineyard Neighborhood Association
- Volker Neighborhood Association
- Walnut Grove Neighborhood Association
- Ward Parkway Plaza Neighborhood Association
- Washington Wheatly Neighborhood Association
- Wendell Phillips Community Association
- West Bannister Neighborhood Association
- West Plaza Neighborhood Association
- Westport Neighbors United
- Westside Planning Committee
- Willows Neighborhood Association
- Winnwood-Sunnybrook Community Council
- Woodridge Neighborhood Association
- Wornall Pines Neighborhood Association
- 41/42 Montgall Homeowners Association
- 433 Ward Parkway Condominium Association
- Amber Meadows/Amber Lakes Subdivisions
- Armour Fields Homes Association (incl. Romanelli Gardens)
- Armour Hills Homes Association
- Astor Place Homes Association
- Autumn Ridge Homeowner's Association
- Barry Harbor/Hunter's Ridge Homes Association
- Barrybrooke Village Homes Association
- Birchwood Hills Homes Association
- Blue Hills Estates Homes Association
- Briarcliff West Homes Association (continues into Riverside)
- Briarwood West Homes Association (continues into Oakwood)
- Bridgepointe Homes Association
- Brighton Woods Homeowners Association
- Brittany Oaks Homes Association
- Carriage Hill Estates Homes Association
- Cassell Brook Homes Association (continues into Raytown)
- Charleston Harbor Homes Association
- Citadel Homes Association
- Claybrook Homes Association
- Claymont Homes Association
- Claymont North Homes Association
- Coachlight Square Homes Association
- Country Club Homes Association
- Country Side Homes Association
- Country Valley Homes Association
- Coves Homes Association
- Crestview Homes Association
- Crestwood Homes Association
- Crossgates Homeowners Association (continues into Grandview)
- Fairlane Homes Association
- Fairwood Homes Association
- Foxcroft Homes Association
- Foxwood Homes Association
- Glen Arbor Estates Homes Association
- Glen Lake Homes Association
- Green Meadows Homes Association
- Greenway Fields Homes Association
- Hickory Hollow Homes Association
- Highland Acres-Lakeside Heights Homes Association
- Hillcrest Heights Homes Association
- Indian Heights Home Owners Association
- Innisbrook Homes Association
- Janssen Place Lot Owners Association
- KCI Homes Association
- Kirkside Homes Association
- Kirktown Homes Association
- Lea Manor Homes Association
- Linden Hill Homes Association
- Little Blue Valley Homes Association
- Little Village Homes Association
- Loma Vista West Townhouses
- Mayfair Homes Association
- Mission Lakes Community
- New Mark First Pool Homes Association
- Newcastle Homes Association
- North Lakes Homes Association
- Oak Meyer Gardens Homes Association
- Oakdell Homes Association
- Oakhill Estates Homes Association, Inc.
- Park Plaza Home Owners Association
- Parkview Manor Homes Association
- Platte Brooke Homes Association
- Red Bridge Hills Homes Association
- Red Bridge Homes Association
- Rennaisance Coves Homes Association
- River Park Townhomes Homes Association
- Roanoke Protective Homes Association
- Rockhill Homes Association
- Rolling Hills South Homes Association
- Romanelli West Homes Association
- Ruskin Heights Homes Association
- Ruskin Hills Homes Association
- Sacred Heart Homes Association
- Santa Fe Hills Homes Association
- Sherwood Estates Homes Association
- Somerset Valley Homes Association
- Southern Hills Subdivision & Annex Homes Association
- Stoneybrook Homes Association
- Stratford Estates Homes Association
- Stratford Gardens Homes Association
- Stratford Place Townhomes Association
- Sugar Tree Homes Association
- Summit Wood Property Owners Association
- Terrace Lake Gardens Homes Association
- The Meadows Homeowners Association
- Thistle Homes Association
- Tower Homes Association
- Tremont Manor Homes Association (continues into NKC)
- Tri-Blenheim Neighborhood Association
- Valley View Homes Association
- Village Glen Homes Association
- Villas Property Owners Association
- Walden Homeowners Association
- Waldo Homes Association
- Ward Parkway Estates Homes Association
- Ward Parkway Homes Association
- Westchester Homes Association
- Western Blue Township Homeowners Association
- Western Hills Homes Association
- Westwood Park Homes Association
- Woodbridge Homes Association
- Woodgate on Bannister Homes Association
- Woodglen Homes Association
- Woodson Estates Homes Association
- Wornall Homestead Homes Association
- FOCUS Neighborhoods
(administrative areas, not self-defined, but 100% coverage; note that many names overlap with the two above) http://www.kcmo.org/planning/pdf/focus/Neighborhood_Assessment_Reports/neighborhoodtypes.pdf since I can't seem to pull the text out easily myself.
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[edit]However not all of these are "notable". Maybe this'll give us something to start to discuss, however. Okay, so our list is more like 233 groups, today... -- nae'blis 21:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- P.S. Those 233 aer our "Active" status groups, not brand new ones and not defunct ones, so it will necessarily differ from the list we currently have in the article. Another option is http://www.kcmo.org/planning.nsf/web/reports which lists those groups/areas for which an official "assessment" was done for the FOCUS project (this would be a subset of the 3rd list above). That might count as a "independent reliable source" (not sure), with the caveat that several neighborhoods were combined for size reasons into a single report, and some of the really large ones, like Ivanhoe, were split for the opposite reason. -- nae'blis 21:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
notable
[edit]- Wow. Nifty little javascript. Didn't know about that one! I should be careful about what I asked for. The original list in the article looks pretty good in comparison. Your list is definitely helpful in making sure we catch the ones that are notable. In any event this list goes back to my argument that this article should be called List of neighborhoods in Kansas City, Missouri. The neighborhoods that I was most interested in that brought me here (18th and Vine, Quality Hill, Downtown) are not on this list. In most places neighborhoods are usually not defined by any government entity and so the free form list actually works. The registered part confuses things. Thanks again for the posting the list! Americasroof 21:35, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think I saw Quality Hill floating around the other day. 18th & Vine definitely needs an article if it doesn't have one, though I'm not sure what name to put it under. Another possibility would be to limit the list to those with multiple instances of media coverage (Ivanhoe), historic district (Garment District?) status, or mentions in books (Westport, etc). Still rolling this around in my head... also, I notice there's precedent in Category:Neighborhoods in the United States that we could emulate, for further navigational aid. In no way do I think all 200+ on my list deserve inclusion. One question would be whether to include KS-side/suburban neighborhoods of special note (might keep us from proliferating sublists for Independence, NKC, Overland Park, etc). -- nae'blis 22:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- Wow. Nifty little javascript. Didn't know about that one! I should be careful about what I asked for. The original list in the article looks pretty good in comparison. Your list is definitely helpful in making sure we catch the ones that are notable. In any event this list goes back to my argument that this article should be called List of neighborhoods in Kansas City, Missouri. The neighborhoods that I was most interested in that brought me here (18th and Vine, Quality Hill, Downtown) are not on this list. In most places neighborhoods are usually not defined by any government entity and so the free form list actually works. The registered part confuses things. Thanks again for the posting the list! Americasroof 21:35, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- I think the list as is is good now. It catches everything that I might write to. If it doesn't, it can be created. Quality Hill and 18th and Vine are national register historic sites. Both have articles. It's the "registered" I don't like (and complaining about it was my main reason for wondering into this discussion). Registered implies government sanctioned, sponsorshipship and control. Neighborhoods are much more nebulous than that. So I still urge going to the neighborhood convention used in other cities List of neighborhoods in Kansas City, Missouri. Americasroof 22:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, agreed. At this point I'm just wondering if a more nebulous List of neighborhoods in the Kansas City area would be more appropriate for a retitle. -- nae'blis 22:45, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- To see some of the naming conventions do a search on "List of neighborhoods" [1] This article shouldn't go down the slippery slope of trying to take on the entire metro area. The most notable neighborhoods are mostly south of the river. KCK has some notable neighborhoods but they should be in their own article. Likewise Overland Park neighborhoods could be in their own article. Offhand I can't think of notable neighborhoods in the other burbs except possibly in Independence. Americasroof 23:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Of note
[edit]Also, before doing anything major with this page I wanted to see the outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Medina neighborhoods - turns out it was no consensus, which gives work on this page a decent chance of surviving. I'll revise the page list a bit later, gotta work for now... -- nae'blis 16:12, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
registered list/map
[edit]- Moved from the top of the page
Despite what Nae'blis says, I have seen several times a map - with list included - of all of Kansas City's registered neighborhoods. There is an official list. If you go to http://www.kcmo.org and click on "maps," it is possible to get the map to show the neighborhoods. Each one has a defined boundary. Several years ago, a "neighborhood improvement project" also had a fact sheet for each neighborhood. Perhaps Nae'blis has the ability to retrieve these, too. There are over 150 registered neighborhoods in Kansas City, Missouri - JUST Kansas City, Missouri, not the ENTIRE metro area. And yes, they ARE registered officially with the city and have official boundaries. That's all this list was supposed to be. Any further ideas??66.140.86.173 21:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- You're probably thinking of the FOCUS neighborhoods; they can be seen on a map at http://www.kcmo.org/kcmo.nsf/web/maps (requires Javascript, turn off popup blockers), and they do indeed cover 100% of the city, as that's what they were designed to do. However they're closely related to the census areas (see page 6 of http://www.kcmo.org/planning/pdf/focus/NA_reports/rochilmn.pdf and related documents), and don't always correspond to actual "neighborhoods". Some were combined, some were split, in order to get assessment areas of roughly the same dimensions. I can't find a public description of how these areas were decided, but you can spot-check how they differ from our 'registered' listing in dimensions, size, and coverage. But on the other hand, our office's listing includes some very small, new, and relatively unknown neighborhood associations. I'm not sure that's the same thing.
- I think the above approach is best: abandon trying to cover/list 'registered' neighborhoods in Kansas City, and start focusing on the important ones. If we use a combination of a working list and a category, it should be relatively easy to navigate, and easy to add to. Further thoughts? -- nae'blis 21:47, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- The neighborhoods have defined boundaries. The boundaries are used on the city maps demarcating the neighborhoods. These boundaries are used widely by the city for a variety of reasons, as Nae'blis has admitted. How is this not "registered?" Each neighborhood in Kansas City has a border and a neighborhood association that corresponds to the neighborhood within that border. Nae'blis admits all this. The article should thus be left as is, except that ALL 150+ registered neighborhoods ought to be added. It's as simple as that. 65.28.2.218 00:09, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
groups v. neighborhoods
[edit]The list says "The City of Kansas City, Mo. boasts hundreds of registered neighborhood organizations. The type of neighborhood organization varies throughout the city. Most of the organizations fall into four categories: neighborhood associations, homeowners associations, block clubs, and service organizations." [2]
I have heard nothing from the group that covers my area in the seven years I've lived here. Either they are defunct or they are representing me without my knowledge. --Gbleem 22:15, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Image requests
[edit]This page and all the pages for the individual neighborhoods are pretty hard to parse without a map, if you don't happen to already know ever part of the city by heart. Someone that is: A: familiar with the subject and B: gifted enough to come up with a nice SVG that can be zoomed in and zoomed out to clearly mark specific neighborhoods on each of their pages - would you mind doing just that? MrZaiustalk 20:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
This should only be Neighborhoods in Kansas City, Missouri
[edit]There's a big move afoot to standardize the neighborhood articles across Wikipedia. This article should only be about Kansas City, Missouri. Kansas City, Kansas goes its own article. I have added the standardized categories so you can see what's going on (a hierarchy of country to state to city)Americasroof 02:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, I’ll make the change if nobody has any objections? Also, this may be the oldest commment I’ve ever replied to. Grey Wanderer (talk) 02:33, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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