Talk:Neo-Gaeltacht

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Issues

Firstly, an update is needed regarding the Dublin Gaeltacht, the paragraph refers to something two years ago. I searched around and found no information on the topic, making me presume it fell through.

Secondly, it says 'a group in conjunction with the local branch of Glór na Gael' (sic), first of all, who is this 'group'? I found nothing searching Google, further, Glór na nGael is not an organisation, it is a competition to reward Irish language societies in universities for promoting Irish.

Also, more information would be great about the Belfast Gaeltacht, if it's succeeded, how many people there speak Irish in the home, maybe a picture of a sign or something in Irish.

This article is based on imagination, POV and wishful thinking. In Ballymun and West Belfast Irish is not the "predominant spoken language". Sorry bout that. Both areas are poor, and language-based funding support from government is one way of injecting central funds into these areas.86.42.207.136 (talk) 07:48, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the hoped-for date for completion of the Ballymun Gaeltacht from 2009 to 2012, although the dates were/are unsourced in both this article and "Ballymun". At least now there's no conflict between them and readers of this article won't be tempted to think it must have already happened. I have no problem with the concept of a neo-Gaeltacht being treated here, but there is a bit of over-eagerness out there. I have never been to the Shaw's Road Gaeltacht area but I know people who have and it is well documented. The small core group of families and a substantial Irish-medium primary school exist, as well as serious efforts to expand. Still, to read some accounts (the Irish Vicipéid article on the Belfast Gaeltacht Quarter?) you would think it was comparable to what Kiryas Joel is for Yiddish in New York. SeoMac (talk) 06:44, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.gaelport.com/default.aspx?treeid=37&NewsItemID=7544 check this link for further information.

Neo-Gaeltacht vs Network Gaeltacht

The definition of Neo-Gaeltacht is problematic and really needs to be sourced, especially as the focus seems to have shifted towards the concept of Gaeltacht gréasáin ('network Gaeltacht'). "The planned Gaeltacht Bill will also provide for a process to prepare language plans at community level for each Gaeltacht area. New "network Gaeltacht" areas will be created, mostly in urban communities outside the Gaeltacht, where there is strong community and state support for Irish." ^[1]

If we can focus on West Belfast briefly. The Shaws Road community would likely qualify as a Neo-Gaeltacht, as defined in the article. The wider West Belfast community would generally seem to fit into the 'network Gaeltacht' definition above, without delving into the specific areas that encompasses the Gaeltacht Quarter. According to the 2001 census West Belfast has a population of 83921, 19814 of whom (23.6%) have some knowledge of Irish and 9249 of whom (11%) speak, read, write and understand Irish. ^[2] Conghaileach (talk) 13:59, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is this article necessary?

Similar information is already to be found in the appropriate section of Gaeltacht. There is no need that I can see for a separate article. I suggest that this article be removed.

Colin Ryan (talk) 07:49, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] ttp://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kfojgbidmhoj/

[2] ttp://www.nisra.gov.uk/archive/census/2001/standard%20tables/PC/s372_pc_level.xls

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