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what foreign foods have Nepalis taken to in areas with large tourist influxes? Do they eat pizza, western pastries, raised bread, cheese, ice cream, etc.? 18.104.22.168 (talk) 07:06, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- Pizza, raised bread (pauroti) and pastries, ice cream and cheese are indeed available in Nepal. Not only in urban centers and along popular tourist routes, but they are also beginning to show up in smaller towns off the tourist track. That the Nepalese are open to new foods should not come as a great surprise, considering that chili peppers, potatoes, tomatoes, maize and pumpkin all originated in the New World but are now completely integrated into Nepalese cuisine. LADave (talk) 18:52, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Has anyone systematically studied ethnic variations?
I am thinking of Diane Kennedy's books on Mexican cuisine, documenting how she traveled to different corners of the country collecting recipes. Doing something similar in Nepal could be rewarding.
Janajati ethnic groups may have their own special ingredients and methods of preparation. For one thing, the dominant Hindu Bahun-Chhetri-Dalit communities own a disproportionate amount of the irrigated fields where rice can be grown, so Janajati cuisine should be less biased toward rice.
Janajatis may may also utilize foods that orthodox Hindus avoid, particularly when it comes to sources of animal protein. I recall good-sized freshwater crabs in the rivers, but in Bahun-Chhetri-Dalit communities I couldn't find anyone who admitted to eating them. Most likely there are come communities that eat these crabs. Magars raise pigs for meat, but upper-caste Hindus avoid pork. Hunting is a significant pastime in some communities, especially at higher elevations and in the far west where the human population thins out.
Neutrality of the Section 'Etiquette' is highly disputable
The section of the article 'Etiquette' contains highly refutable statement on the social-caste system of Nepal.
These foods can be accepted from any clean caste but not from untouchables. However water and foods cooked with water can be problematic. Traditionally they are not to be cooked or touched by a person of lower caste than the recipient. For this reason even in a polygamous household the first wife should not be of lower caste than the husband.
Etiquette is "the customary code of polite-behavior in society.." It's purpose is to provide an idea on the methods of consuming Nepalese cuisines but make an indiscretion against societal values and norms. Moreover, using the term untouchables demeans the benevolence that exist among different social castes of Nepalese society.
- I have changed the text of the wikilink to the native Hindu term Dalit for better NPOV. JIP | Talk 12:38, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
- The Dalit article is certainly good contextual reading on the topic of caste divisions and how attitudes may be changing. Nevertheless, traditional food etiquette and taboos seem to come directly from the notion of what is or isn't pure and "touchable", which isn't only about people. Food, water and other inanimate objects also take on these attributes, with no "dalit" euphemism. Shrinking from this may do the non-native reader a serious disservice, arriving in-country and encountering traditional beliefs without any advance preparation. LADave (talk) 21:06, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, but I'd suggest to remove expressions that give a sense of cast/societal differences to the general readers, when the topic is about cuisines. The presence of Dalits and cultural dominance has been eradicating from the current world for good, therefore, the impression it leaves on the international readers, who refer to this article for information on cuisine of a particular country and what should they eat once in the ground, can prove to be biased against minority castes.Salman 11:06, 8 December 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samsujata (talk • contribs)
- Yet we still find journalistic accounts of communal violence against Dalits and religious minorities. India has reactionary violence and Nepal recently had a civil war in which caste was a bone of contention. Is it Wikipedia's responsibility to whitewash all this? LADave (talk) 21:06, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
A request was made some time ago to reassess quality level of this article on the WikiProject Food & Drink Assessments page. The article was a stub class at the time, and I reassessed it to C-class. As of December 2013, this article is currently rated as C-class, an assessment that still stands. The whole article only has 10 sources, several of which do not meet the criteria to elevate it to B-class. While it has been expanded, it still needs links to sources that meet Wikipedia's standards on neutrality, reliability, and others. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 23:39, 11 December 2013 (UTC)