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About the independence of the Herald[edit]

In cleaning up this article, I came across the following sentences:

Consideration was given in 1975 to establishing an independent heraldic authority in New Zealand. In particular there were proposals for a New Zealand King of Arms, to be under the Earl Marshal and Garter Principal King of Arms, and within the College of Arms (Phillip O'Shea, Cabinet Office Adviser on Honours). It was decided however to continue to use the College of Arms (PP O'Shea, "The Office of the New Zealand Herald of Arms" (1982) 20 New Zealand Armorist 7).

I have no idea what they mean. They appear to contradict each other. Doops | talk 20:26, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I have left them in for now because I can't see how to reconcile them — yet I'd hate to delete them altogether. Doops | talk 20:44, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
AFAICT, this says that there was proposal of separating the New Zealand Herald from the office of the College of Arms, but they decided to keep the system they had at this point. The problem arise where the date of creation of the office of New Zealand Herald Extraordinary is never given in the article, making it sounds like the office was created at that moment. Circeus 23:05, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
Research digs up [1], which says the office was created in 1978. NOW I'm confused. Circeus 23:09, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
No, that doesn't confuse me — certainly the first (and so far only) NZHE was appointed in 1978. I suspect that what the author was trying to say was that in 1975 there was talk about making specific heraldic provision for New Zealand (instead of just having New Zealanders apply through the college as overseas applicants in the usual way); and one proposal was to have an independent New Zealand Herald (or even a NZ King-of-Arms), while another was the current situation (a NZ Herald affiliated with and delegated to by the College of Arms). Doops | talk 01:10, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:New Zealand Herald.jpg[edit]

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Fair use rationale for Image:New Zealand Herald.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot 02:34, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

There is, to the contrary, a rationale spelled out at Image:New Zealand Herald.jpg. If it's a bad rationale, we obviously need a human being to explain to us why it's bad; but the claim made here is patently false. I have written on the bot's talk page requesting an explanation. Doops | talk 03:01, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Name[edit]

Spelling corrected from Philip to Phillip, as on his website Hugo999 (talk) 19:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Proposed merger[edit]

A proposed merger of the article New Zealand heraldry into this article is being discussed at Talk:New Zealand Herald of Arms Extraordinary. Arms Jones (talk) 15:30, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Jurisdiction[edit]

Isn't New Zealand the jurisdiction of this herald? It says it's England, Wales and Northern Ireland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clara Wappen (talkcontribs) 22:39, 8 February 2014 (UTC)