Talk:No Child Left Behind (song)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Songs, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of songs on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SongsWikipedia:WikiProject SongsTemplate:WikiProject Songssong articles

Hip hop Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Hip hop, a collaborative effort to build a useful resource for and improve the coverage of hip hop on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.Hip hopWikipedia:WikiProject Hip hopTemplate:WikiProject Hip hopHip hop articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

A fact from No Child Left Behind (song) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 December 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Kanye West's group the Sunday Service Choir performed "No Child Left Behind" with Justin Bieber at a Halloween 2021 concert?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2021/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/No Child Left Behind (song).

Wikipedia

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:52, 27 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(

Comment or view
Article history

)

... that Kanye West's group the Sunday Service Choir performed "No Child Left Behind" with Justin Bieber on Halloween 2021? Sources: Kanye West Performs Halloween Sunday Service, Watch Kanye West Perform at Sunday Service with Justin Bieber, Roddy Ricch, and More)
- ALT1: ... that Kanye West's group the Sunday Service Choir performed "No Child Left Behind" with Justin Bieber at a Halloween 2021 concert? Sources: Kanye West Performs Halloween Sunday Service, Watch Kanye West Perform at Sunday Service with Justin Bieber, Roddy Ricch, and More)
- ALT2: ... that "No Child Left Behind" was performed by Kanye West's group the Sunday Service Choir on Halloween 2021 with Justin Bieber? Sources: Kanye West Performs Halloween Sunday Service, Watch Kanye West Perform at Sunday Service with Justin Bieber, Roddy Ricch, and More)

Reviewed: London Forum (far-right group)

Converted from a redirect by Kyle Peake (talk). Self-nominated at 07:56, 17 November 2021 (UTC).[reply]

The article as it stands consists of about 1430 bytes (excluding infobox, headers, tables, and ref markers). This is slightly too short for DYK. Nominated for DYK less than one day after conversion from redirect. QPQ completed. I'll complete the review once the article satisfies the length criterion. Mind matrix 20:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for checking the length properly, I apologize for this being slightly off and I have increased it now by adding background info. I await the rest of your comments, hopefully this reaches the DYK page soon enough! K. Peake 21:51, 17 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kyle Peake: Article is now of sufficient length. The background section states "Vory was revealed to have vocals on multiple songs", but that is drawn from the @TeamKanyeDaily Twitter account, which is operated by fans (ie - it is not an official account). You can instead state that fans collected this info into a tracklist. Please don't use phrases such as "Vory emphasized", "Vory revealed", "The rapper opened up", or "expressing of them collaborating" (see WP:SAID for reasoning). Also, what do you mean by the term 'considered' in "...creating a strong, considered discography..."? (Its in the source as well, and no clearer there.) There are a number of unsourced quotations in the background section; I can see they appear in this XXL piece, which is included at the end of the paragraph, but generally quotations should be cited where they occur (ie - at the end of the quotation or the sentence in which it occurs). The last sentence in the background section is too similar to the source material. The statement "resembling an ascent to heaven" should not be made in Wikipedia's voice - it should be quoted and attributed to the source making that claim. Also, is "delivered harmonies" accurate? Is there a better choice of words than 'delivered'? And is "listening event" just a substitute for "concert", or does it refer to some other event? Regarding the chart performance, VG-Lista for Norway does not include the song, the Billboard US Christian Songs has it at 15, and the Billboard US Gospel Songs returns "Page not found". Hooks are OK and sourced, though I think associating it to Bieber may detract from the intended target of the hook. Mind matrix 14:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I used a different source for the opening sentence about Vory and also changed the content, worked against using language that the guideline opposes, replaced considered with a clearer meaning while axing strong and paraphrasing that sentence, as well as invoking the XXL ref for any sentences with a quote. Variety made the heavens statement, so I attributed it to them and revised the harmonies part. Regarding the charts, I was supposed to add the week 35 URL for Norway but forgot as the old revision shows in the title, I edited the peaks for the charts since I probably misread them and added the new URL for West's Gospel Songs history. Furthermore, I added Bieber in on purpose because I thought it would be interesting that West's group specifically performed it with such a well-known singer. Thanks for your comments; I hope this makes it to DYK now! K. Peake 17:27, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Issues have been addressed. Good to go. Mind matrix 15:21, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 to T:DYK/P2