Talk:Noel Bauldeweyn

Composer project review

I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. This is a short, seemingly factually as complete as possible, account of the composer and his music. Its only really notable defect is the lack of imagery. I also wonder if there's enough information about his works to merit a more list-like treatment. See my detailed review on the comments page. Candidate for A and/or GA. Magic♪piano 22:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

No works published?

The article states that none of this composers' music was published, but I have before me a five voice chanson 'En douleur en tristesse', in Tielman Susato's sixth collection of French chansons, that bears his name (spelled 'Noel Baulduuyn'). Is it a misattribution, is there another composer with the same name, or is the article incorrect? 130.54.130.240 (talk) 15:28, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out. I fixed it -- turns out it was only the masses that weren't published. The Sparks/Nelson article in the current online New Grove mentions that one of his songs (probably the one you mention) as well as some of the motets appeared in print in the 16th century. There is also an article by E.H. Sparks ("The Music of Noel Bauldeweyn", 1972) that gives all the sources for each work. Antandrus (talk) 15:44, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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==Composers Project Assessment of Noel Bauldeweyn: 2008-11-21== This is an assessment of article Noel Bauldeweyn by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by {{{user}}}. If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down. Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status. ===Origins/family background/studies=== Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described? OK given limited source material ===Early career=== Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed? OK given limited source material ===Mature career=== Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed? OK given limited source material ===List(s) of works=== Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article. OK, but see summary. ===Critical appreciation=== Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)? OK ===Illustrations and sound clips=== Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.) No images. Given scarcity of data, not sure what sort of image would be appropriate. No sound clips. ===References, sources and bibliography=== Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references? OK ===Structure and compliance with WP:MOS=== Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.) OK ===Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review=== Article needs (more) images and/or other media (MOS:IMAGE) ===Summary=== A nice short article on a Renaissance composer. It could use some sort of image, and, if available, audio clip. One comment: it appears that there are enough works that a more traditional listing of them be given. I don't know enough about the music of this time to know how e.g. the masses would be differentiated from one another; ditto the motets, especially when publication dates may not be known, and other descriptive aspects may be limited to the manuscripts. This article might, with minor changes, be an A-class and/or GA candidate. -- Magic♪piano 22:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

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