Talk:Norwegian Order of Freemasons

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List of Grand masters

The list of Grand masters in this article is not correct. The Norwegian Order of Freemasons was founded by four lodges of St. John, one lodge of St. Andrew and one Stewardlodge. The Grand master are thus the head of an Order consisting of several lodges, while for example Bernt Anker and Niels Treschow was the Speaking master of Lodge St. Olaus to the white Leopard.

In a time period when «the white leopard» was the first and only Freemasonry lodge in Norway, it would be correct to choose the designation «leader of the Norwegian Freemasonry», while not yet the leader of an Order (many lodges).

The confusion between the St. Olai lodge and the Order itself has some caused some errors in foreign articles listing the Grand masters, even in webpages written by Masons. It is possible to remove Anker and Treschow from this article, and add the complete list of past Norwegian «Grand masters» since 1749 in the article about Lodge St. Olaus. This way, the confusion is replaced by understanding. However, I am not aware of the degree of relevance of such a list for the English reading audience, although most of the names are notable persons. --Adamaisaka 22:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see a need to list Grand Masters at all... most of these men are not at all notable beyond Norwegian Freemasonry, and any that are can be worked into the main text. I have cut the list. Blueboar (talk) 22:25, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merging material from articles on Lodges

I have merged the material from the articles on St. Andrews/Oscar burning flame and Lodge St. Olaus to the white leopard into this article... and have redirected those articles to this one. Per WP:ORG, local chapters of national or international bodies are not normally considered notable enough for their own articles. Blueboar (talk) 22:22, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]