Talk:Norwegian krone/Archives/2012

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Is the symbol kr usually written in front or back of the numerals? Is there a space in between? Thanks. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 01:11, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Front, I'd think, with a space, such as "100 kr". (Although there's a small possibility I might be mixing it up with the Swedish standard...) 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * 16:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I am Norwegian. Front reflects a posh and old-fashioned way of referring to money. Norwegian people of today write "100 kroner", "100 kr" or even "100,-" (comma + hyphen). Darkride 13:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to all that writing NOK 100 isn't seen much in shops and things, but is used in finance online, and also by people who move to norway and are used to writing in front (like Americans and Brits). 100,- (no space) is used in shops a lot, and 100 kr is used when you write down a price. 100 kroner isn't used a lot. DarkLightA (talk) 08:15, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

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Current backing

Is the NOK currently backed by Gold or something? Is it a fiat currency? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.203.48.9 (talk) 22:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

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Missing photo.

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Indefinite singular form "krona" and ind. pl. form "kronor"

These forms are very real in the written standard of Nynorsk, and they do also together reflect spoken language in great parts of Norway. It's a bit silly that something which has little significance for the topic at hand generates so much editing, but I hope that people who consider removing the forms will take a look at the following links:

• Grammatical table
• "krona", look for the substantiv hokjønn, eintal, ubunden form, klammeform bit
• "kronor"

The forms may not be used so much in contemporary texts, yet they are officially considered correct. --Harald Khan Ճ 15:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

They are never used at all and the only thing they do in this article is confuse people. They should be removed. Besides, [krʊnɛ] is not quite accurate; [ˈkɾuːnə] would be correct. Anonymous 20:00, 28 November 2010 (CET) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.149.145.252 (talk)

They are officially correct forms. I use the first form myself, and I am not the only one. In spoken Norwegian, the form krona is dominant/only form in large parts of the country. --Harald Khan Ճ 21:31, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I take it you say "ei krona", which is perfectly all right, but it does not make it 'dominant', at least not in the written language. And according to the dictionary, both "krona" (as the undefinite) and "kronor" are both so called "klammeformer". "Klammeformer" are not used in official documents and are a marker of personal style. A neutral article should refrain from using such a style. Therefore I, and obviously several others, feel that these words do not belong in Wikipedia. I say: let them be removed. -- Jonashm 09:44, 30 November 2010 (CET)

Please reread what I wrote. It is correct that "klammeformer" can not be used in public documents. It is not correct that they are "personal markers of style", that's just something you just invented ;-) "klammeformer" are officially recognised words/word forms, they are not to be confused with dialect or words that are otherwise not part of the official norms. --Harald Khan Ճ 10:10, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Please leave the condescending tone. It certainly is a personal marker of style and miles away from a neutral language. The word "Åssen" is also a "klammeform" and hence an officially recognised word. Would you/most people like me to use that word in the bokmål version of this article? Anyways, we will not reach an agreement on this issue and we should let more user have their say before we reach a conclusion, n'est-ce pas? -- Jonashm 12:49, 30 November 2010 (CET)

They are not personal markers, but an extended ortography and vocabulary. åssen is not a "klammeform", Bokmål does not have "klammeformer" anymore. That using officially correct forms should mark personal style somehow, is your POV. If you told someone who writes Nynorsk that the verb å fylgja was a "klammeform", they probably wouldn't believe you. Same goes for verb forms like tar and tatt, which are very frequent in use.

The real issue here is not that the words are "klammeformer", but that they are not seen that often in use. --Harald Khan Ճ 15:45, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

"Kronor" should definitely not be used. As previously stated, it is a so-called "klammeform" which is by definition an alternative way to write the word and is not to be used in any official context or in teaching . I can't see any reason to use it other than in spite because "it is acceptable". We are taught in school that we are allowed to used "klammeform" words in texts we hand in, however we should avoid it as they are allowed only to make writing nynorsk easier for the students and will not be acceptable anymore after we finish school.85.200.23.98 (talk) 17:53, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Besides, why would you use a form that is by definition the SECONDARY form of the word and not the PRIMARY form if you want to actually be informative?85.200.23.98 (talk) 17:58, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Most of what you are saying is simply not true. Firstly, you can of course use any word/language you'd like in an 'official context', it is one's own responsibility to make sure that one is understood. However, official texts written by direct employees of the state should not use klammeforms. These texts do, however, make up a tiny minority of all the texts written in Nynorsk.

Secondly, they are not secondary forms, but alternative forms. State employees cannot use them at all, while everyone else can choose freely between them. The use of klammeforms is quite widespread in Nynorsk (tar instead of tek is one example) Njardarlogar (talk) 09:28, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

The references do not support its use as singular indefinite, so those should be removed, and we are left with citationneeded. (I think we agree that singular definite is not correct for the context. Ref does not support krona as indef AT ALL.) "Krona" could also be slang for the nok exchange rate ("Krona er sterk", from definite form), which is also unapplicable. Then you're left loaning the swedish word. ("Kronor" is also swedish. A swede reading this article mentioning krona,kronor, would be confused or misled.) I would guess (no real clue) that its use is prominent along the swedish border, but is not "correct" spelling by the standards of either nn/nb written language. As an encyclopedia, is wikipedia concerned with the official names, or should it cover all nicknames in use? US Dollar does that only as a sidebar thing, not featuring prominently in the main introduction. --MaHuJa (talk) 18:46, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

That is because they have changed the design of the dictionary; see the this link.

'kronor' in this context has absolutely nothing to do with Swedish. That both Norwegian and Swedish have the form 'kronor' stems from the common origin of the two languages; it is a system that was present in Old Norse and that has survived to this date (it was written as -ur in ON; do also check the article on the Icelandic króna). Originally, -or was the only allowed form in Nynorsk/Landsmål, -er came decades later. The forms are in the article because they are official and have some usage. Njardarlogar (talk) 09:28, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

MaHuJa, you obviously are quite ignorant on the subject of Norwegian language if you're equating the singular indefinite form 'krona' to slang. FYI, it is, in stark contrast to what you seem to think, not used at all along the Swedish border. It is the dominant form of the word on the southwestern coast of Norway, where all feminine nouns of the historical weak declension end on -a. It is also currently an accepted form in the Nynorsk written language of Norway. You would do well to remember that in Norway there is no official standard spoken form of the language before you go claiming the supposed higher validity of one over the other. In fact, I find your contribution here quite objectionable and inflammatory.

As a side note, I did find it odd that the forms 'krona' and 'kronor are mentioned in this article at all though. When I've encountered this distinction made in writing it's always been with the Norwegianized forms 'kruna' and 'krunor' which were phased out in 1938. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.102.168.132 (talk) 17:23, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

50 øre coin to be withdrawn on May 1 2012 | Assisted by Citation bot r394

It should be noted that the øre will no longer be legal tender after the month of April. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Overintellectualization (talk • contribs) 16:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

This coin is taken out of circulation 1 May 2012, but it will be accepted by the Bank of Norway for another 10 years, so the table's "valid" date should be 2022. (This meaning of "valid" is used elsewhere in the article, although it's not defined explicitly.) Eddi (Talk) 13:28, 12 April 2012 (UTC)