Talk:Oggy Oggy Oggy

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"Oi, let's see wizard of 'was'". The Sydney Morning Herald. March 5, 2004.

Citation for last section[edit]

Can anyone find a source for the section

"In the 1990’s, Birmingham, UK, when some children played outside in areas with very few people, and who became temporarily split up and lost from their friends or family while playing, they would shout “Oggy, oggy, oggy” for their friends or family to hear their general direction and to respond with “Oi, oi, oi”. They used this to try and find each other again through sound and hearing. This may not have been limited to the 1990’s, and may not have been limited to Birmingham, UK."

I cannot find any information backing this statement up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.197.0.23 (talk) 20:24, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, I would say plagerised, but hey, to each his own:

From the article in question (dated 3 March 2004):

The online encyclopaedia, Wikipedia, suggests the chant has origins in Cornwall, where tin miners' wives would shout "Oggy Oggy Oggy" when delivering pasties known as Oggies to their husbands.

In the 1970s the Welsh folk singer and comedian Max Boyce used the chant to drum up crowd excitement at performances. The saying then spread to Welsh Rugby crowds at international matches and soon to other sporting occasions at all levels.

When Margaret Thatcher came to power in Britain in 1979 a variation of the chant ("Maggie Maggie Maggie , Out Out Out!") was adopted by some of her opponents.

From the 26 February 2003 version:

One possible theory for the origin of the chant stems from Cornwall. An Oggy is a slang term for a Cornish pasty and the tin miner's wives would shout "Oggy Oggy Oggy" when delivering pasties to their husbands.

In the 1970s the Welsh folk singer and commedian Max Boyce popularised the chant in order to excite the crowd at his concerts. It then began to be adopted by Welsh Rugby crowds at international matches. Soon it spread to rugby crowds at club level and eventually to many other sporting occasions at all levels.

When Margaret Thatcher came to power in Britain in 1979 a variation of the chant ("Maggie Maggie Maggie , Out Out Out!") was adopted by some of her opponents.

Yes, I know this is really old, but important to note nonetheless. I know they mention Wikipedia as being the source, but the wording is all the same, and to me, at least, it doesn't seem to attribute the next 2 paragraphs to WP (especially the Thatcher paragraph. Even the odd spacing of the comma in the chant is repeated. And the lack of the comma following the prepositional phrase that a copy-editor should have caught.) People just want to be us, ya know? --LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 21:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Aussie Aussie Aussie version of the chant was popular well before the 2000 olympics. It could be heard quite prominently during Kieren Perkins' record setting 1500m swim at the 1994 Commonwealth Games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.21.222 (talk) 12:05, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Zigger zagger[edit]

Removed this paragraph from the Variations section:

"Zigger Zagger Zigger Zagger Oi Oi Oi" was a football song introduced by Peter Terson in his 1967 play "Zigger Zagger" about football hooliganism. This seems to have been inspired by the Oggie song, and the same football chant was used to the classic reggae hit The Liquidator by Harry J All Stars in 1969."

The zigger zagger chant is more likely to be an English rendering of the Prussian (that is, pre-1871) battle cry de:Zicke zacke zicke zacke hoi hoi hoi Frans Fowler (talk) 18:28, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Burns' Scottish Border Cymric 'Hoggie'[edit]

The word Oggie may originally have referred to a Hogget or Sheep whence a mutton and veg pasty might have taken its name. Burns preserved half-forgotten terms from the British dialect of south-west Scotland such as Hoggie meaning a Lamb. Was Oggie Oggie Oggie ever a call for sheep to come home - much as one might call swine? 121.210.24.166 (talk) 09:25, 19 September 2011 (UTC) Ian Ison[reply]