Talk:Oh! Darling
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Title?
[edit]On my (CD) copy of Abbey Road, the title is listed as "Oh Darling!", placing the exclamation point (!) after the word "Darling", not after the word "Oh". I'm not sure what should be considered the official source for the name. Someone more experienced in wiki-editing than me should look into this, I think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.36.88.23 (talk) 08:07, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I looked at several sources, including my personal copy, and the title is shown as "Oh! Darling" on all of those instances. A well-referenced entry "List of The Beatles songs" lists it also as "Oh! Darling" and gives many sources that could be considered "official". I find it interesting that your copy of Abbey Road has it listed incorrectly. Thanks for voicing your concern. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.191.100.76 (talk) 15:43, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Who played piano?
[edit]A recent edit (26 Aug 2007) changes the piano player from Lennon to McCartney. Mark Lewisohn and Ian MacDonald both wrote that Lennon played piano (Session, p. 174, Rev in the Head, p. 350). Without similar verifiable evidence, the piano credit should be reverted. I'll do so if no one comments here in the short term. John Cardinal 14:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
You're right. Obviously you reverted it since your statement, but now it's rereverted. A pingpong thing. On Let it Be (the film) there is a short version of the song with Paul playing the piano. But this is no evidence, because the version on Abbey Road was recorded much later. And we know that Lennon liked the song, he even wanted to sing it. Lewisohn is the most reliable source, he had access to the original tapes and the written notations about the songs especially about who played what. 81.223.131.147 (talk) 20:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Right! John played piano, I reverted that. We should quote Lewishon´s book in this "encyclopedia". I havent read Ian McCdonald book, but I read about it everywehere, and doesnt make any sense in a lot of things, e. i. instrumentation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.40.0.34 (talk) 22:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
But now there's still the passage: "McCartney played piano and later overdubed the bass. George Harrison and Ringo Starr resumed their usual roles. Lennon had not turned up at the sessions yet but did offer a background vocal in an overdub session." I don't think, that McDonald wrote that in the second edition of his book, maybe it's from the first edition. Unfortunately I don't have the book at hand, but maybe someone has and can check it. 88.116.63.50 (talk) 17:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Again rereverted onto Paul McCartney by 67.183.7.47. I looked at both McDonald and Lewisohn, there is no hint at all, that Paul McCartney played the piano. The passage mentioned above "McCartney played piano and later ..." is imaginary, I can't find it on my edition of this book. And I'm quite sure, that this passage can't be found in any other edition of McDonalds "Revolution in the Head" and in any other reliable source elsewhere. 212.51.224.188 (talk) 10:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, when I visited this article, it gave both answers, in two different places... very confusing! I've changed the "Credits" section to show Lennon playing the piano, to be consistent with the discussion above and with the info given in the "Recording" section. adamw4 (talk) 03:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Apparently, the book "Recording The Beatles" said Paul play piano and John bass. Someone has already read that one? Also, that book said the dream sequence vocals on "A day in the life" are Paul´s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.122.146.28 (talk) 14:49, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
01:05:45 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2800:40:15:0:155A:27DA:C339:43F2 (talk) 19:17, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
New info from the 2019 abbey road box edition indicates that Paul does play piano. John plays guitar and George plays bass. I’ve changed it due this, and so has Beatles Bible. Opollo03 (talk) 23:13, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
I reverted your edit on the basis that Beatles Bible was cited as a source and it’s not necessarily the most reliable source.
I also read in a forum that Kevin Howlett’s essays have their share of factual errors, omissions or line-up errors. [1] 194.193.222.184 (talk) 09:00, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
First of all, Beatles Bible has been used as the source for personnel on other Beatles song pages, I think it is a reliable enough source. And second of all, as I said, on the official 2019 Edition Abbey Road mix booklet, it states: “having rehearsed the song during January 1969, The Beatles returned to ‘Oh! Darling’ at Abbey Road Studios on 20 April. Paul is singing while playing piano, George is on bass, guitar is by John and drums are by Ringo, who had recently returned from filming.” I think this is a credible source, I just used Beatle Bible because it was an online source I could credit. Opollo03 (talk) 23:36, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
I will not revert the credit again, but I think their is more evidence now that points to Paul having played piano on this track, considering he wrote the song on piano and would generally play piano on the songs he wrote. Opollo03 (talk) 23:38, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
References
Possible Graffiti
[edit]Noticed this passage in the "Background" section: "Because the real Paul McCartney dies in 1966 and this was actually sung by his impostor William Campbell. He probably had to practice sounding like Paul, because he was American." Judging by the incorrect grammar and lack of a source, I assumed it is graffiti and removed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.191.100.76 (talk) 15:29, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Why is this here?
[edit]Does anyone care that the Beatles met The Fourmyula during the session? Other than the Fourmyula? If they had played on Oh Darling, or added something to it, sure. But - why is this here?--Daveler16 (talk) 14:50, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
- I agree with you and have edited it out. --kingboyk (talk) 19:27, 3 November 2018 (UTC)