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Reviews section
[edit]Are your external links usually filled with links to reviews? The external links section looks like myspace wall rather than an encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.249.5.99 (talk) 15:21, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
It's advertorial, therefore unencyclopedic. Jonathan F 07:24, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Advertorial ? so any film reviews are advertorial and thus should be removed ? Lordb 18:16, 20 June 2006
- No, the systematic quotation of positive reviews is advertorial, as is done in a newspaper or television movie ad. Jonathan F 07:08, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- When there are 99 positive reviews and 1 negative view, to keep the article neutral, then you should post one of the positive and one of the negative to keep an equal number of each? Thus the links are 99:1 out of scale and thus no longer true... who knows. ℑilver§ℑide 09:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
City?
[edit]What city/cities was the movie filmed in? Including, the part where they are taken to Israel. W123 06:58, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
My take on this movie, as a pro-Israeli Jew. While I cannot say it is neutral because it doesn't at all present the Israeli side of the story. In fact, the only Israeli that has a speaking role in the movie is the Israeli that aids the suicide bombers to their target. So no talk of why the '67 war was fought, etc. Anyways, the "neutrality" of the movie comes from the two viewpoints, that independence from Israel should come from peaceful means vs. violent means. The woman in the movie was for alternate means, while the bomber who was the son of a collaborator believed in violence, even though he was hesitant, and his friend, Khaled, was the gung ho one at first. After they arrive in Tel Aviv (and I was shocked, it was really Tel Aviv they filmed it in) Khaled decides that suicide bombing is the wrong way to challenge the Israelis, but Said tricks Khaled into getting into the car, and Khaled goes back to the West Bank, and Said gets on the bus and apparently blows it up. Apparently Khalid did this out of shame of his father, and because he hated living in a refugee camp, though earlier in the movie, Said backed out of bombing an earlier bus becuase he saw a child on it.
Had the movie shown some aspect of the Israeli perspective, one could truly call it neutral. It wasn't as biased as I thought it would be, but clearly the Israelis are made out to be 95% of the bad guys in it, whereas it semi justifies suicide bombings by saying that Palestinians don't have airplanes. Tibetans don't have airplanes either, but they don't blow up busses. Also Palestinian christians don't blow up busses either. So you cannot really blame the occupation on radicalism given other peoples are occupied who don't blow up busses ~Steve
- The movie does not justify suicide bombings, the terrorists portrayed in the movie attempt to. The line is fine, but it is an important distinction. As I mentioned above, these people feel they have no alternatives; feel they're boxed in and must fight and die if there is to be hope for their loved ones. The real opinion of the directors is seen in Suha. Now, where you're bang on is that it does not say much about why the Israelis are doing what they're doing to Palestine. Jachra 02:10, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- While this is not a place for discussing the movie itself if I remember correctly, I'll add that a big problem is showing that the bomber wouldn't hurt a child. It's a lie- they have targeted children. They blew up a school bus not too long ago.Ya'ir Hunter (talk) 11:07, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
criticism
[edit]an article i ran into that needs insertion into the article:
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3211771,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaakobou (talk • contribs) 09:17, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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