Talk:Paraphasia
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[edit]Paragrammatism is called "extended paraphasia," and is different from "paraphasia." Indeed, paragrammatism is roughly synonymous with "word salad," which concerns the semantic coherence of speech rather than its speech. In other words, paraphasia relates to Broca's aphasia, while paragrammatism relates to Wernicke's area. 76.24.27.138 (talk) 22:40, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Paraphasia as a term exists in medical texts from long before 1983. Check springlink or jstor, or pretty much anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.173.100.24 (talk) 06:26, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
related topic
[edit]Hi I'm 55 years old & finally I found the meaning of the word "Paraphasia". I've been doing exactly what they explained concerning the word. I was ver concerned & thought I had problems mentally & congnitivily explains details to other.
My question to whom would be reading this email, I would like to know if I can do anything to improve myself in speaking correctly insted of having people looking at me so mysteriously.
Thank you
Diane —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.240.72.59 (talk) 18:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Paraphasia defined in 1983?
[edit]I'm currently reading the "The Complete Psychological Works of Sigmund Freud", which was published in 1976. In it, in chapter 5 of "The Psychopathology of Everyday Life", first paragraph, you find the word "paraphasia". I don't have the original in German, but I'm quite confident that Freud was using this term many many years before 1983 with it's current sense. In fact, he quotes another author to whom he's indebted for some of his ideas on paraphasia, suggesting the term originated even earlier. Even if Freud did not use the term "paraphasia", it was translated as such for "The Complete Psychological Works of Sigmund Freud" in 1976, which makes it older than 1983. Torvum (talk) 16:03, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Clearly it's much older than that. The book A Treatise on aphasia and other speech defects by Henry Charlton Bastian, published in 1898, uses the term dozens of times and explicitly defines it at the beginning of chapter 10. The earliest definition I can find is in a book called Diseases of the nervous system by Julius Althaus, published in 1877. On page 163 Althaus writes, "In some cases there is a perfect chorea or delirium of words, which may be called paraphasia." That way of putting it suggests that he thought he was inventing new terminology. Looie496 (talk) 16:44, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- Just as a note, Freud writing in German used "Paraphasien" in the paragraph you mentioned. Looie496 (talk) 16:53, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
- I have now fixed the article accordingly. Looie496 (talk) 15:00, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
- Just as a note, Freud writing in German used "Paraphasien" in the paragraph you mentioned. Looie496 (talk) 16:53, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
"English"
[edit]Shouldn't English be edited out of this article in favor of "the speaker's native tongue"? It may be more succinct to say "English," but is not as accurate and could clearly be misleading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.26.178.94 (talk) 21:30, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sure. But the sentences in question are so complicated that it's not easy to do without awkwardness. If you would like to take a shot at it, please feel free. Looie496 (talk) 13:17, 8 August 2014 (UTC)