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Requested move 31 October 2019[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Moved (closed by non-admin page mover) Wug·a·po·des 19:37, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pard (legendary creature) → Pard – Unnecessary disambiguation, it doesn't conflict with anything. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 14:29, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Uh... this article requires some refactoring work in general. A "pard" is just an old term for a leopard, so works that mentions "pard" also happen to be combined with some deep medieval misunderstandings of biology. It wasn't really a separate mythological creature, just a real Earth animal in the leo-pard but poorly described. The references, spotty as they are, back this up - https://www.thefreedictionary.com/pard just calls this "A leopard or other large cat" for example. Maybe merge this article to Pard and drop the currently unreferenced idea that this is a legendary creature at all? SnowFire (talk) 14:52, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@SnowFire: Actually, the sources back up the "pard" being a different creature entirely. See Encyclopedia of Beasts and Monsters in Myth, Legend and Folklore. Pards are differentiated from leopards which are supposedly the offspring of pards and lions, kind of like the mule._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 17:40, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would chalk that up to "deep medieval misunderstandings of biology". All of the other sources just say "leopard / big cat", the Encyclopedia of BaMiMLF you linked also just says pard (leopard) in page 75, and the entry on the pard on page 275 doesn't particularly call it legendary/mythological, just that it was ascribed some religious overtones - like all animals (the dove, the sheep, the snake, etc.). Otherwise, we have an entity the medieval Europeans considered to be a very fast spotted big cat according to your source, which, well, that's a leopard. Anyway, possible this can be covered in a future Pard article to be clear with no disambiguator whatsoever, since I suppose someone searching on this term doesn't want to be immediately redirected to leopard, so support the move regardless of whether the categories are adjusted. SnowFire (talk) 18:28, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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