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Squamate reptiles and many insects have spines and similar structures on their intromittent organs.--Animalparty-- (talk) 02:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Additional relevant information can be found here: Sexual coercion#Grasping/Grappling Jarble (talk) 00:52, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Not in citation given"

Noticed this tag on this bit under "Humans": "In species which retain the full expression of penile spines, penile spines contribute to sexual pleasure and quicker orgasms.[not in citation given][10]"

I went to the article to verify. It IS in the citation given, literally 12-14 lines in: "The morphology of these spines varies among primates. They overlie sensory receptors, and they intensify or enhance sensations accompanying intromission of the penis. Like a KY commercial, except they don't enhance sensations for the female. The net effect in some species is to reduce how long it takes the male to ejaculate." Going to remove the tag, but also change the wording to include the article wording "some species" -- while the information isn't wrong (as per the citation anyway), it implies more certainty for ALL species which have penile spines than actually exists in the citation.99.244.230.178 (talk) 05:52, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I realized that perhaps what the tag was objecting to, obliquely, was the link on the words "sexual pleasure" (which linked to Animal Sexual Behaviour -> "Sex For Pleasure"). Enhancing sexual sensations is not the same thing as "sex for pleasure". The effect of this was reading something that asserts "it enhances sexual pleasure", and then being linked to a page that discusses the debate about whether animals feel 'pleasure' at all (in the way we understand it). Long story short I removed the link to Sex For Pleasure, though my replacement wording feels a little clunky. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.244.230.178 (talk) 06:03, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Since you corrected this sentence, I have removed the cleanup tag. Jarble (talk) 18:36, 9 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"They overlie sensory receptors, and they 'intensify or enhance sensations accompanying intromission of the penis.' 'The net effect in some species is to reduce how long it takes the male to ejaculate.'" The fact that the spines overlie sensory receptors is no doubt a completely objective observation, but the rest of the quotation is, one supposes, entirely speculative. Should not this uncertainty be reflected in the wikki article ? g4oep

Are there asexual chimpanzees?

The "Humans" section begins, "In contrast to sexual chimpanzees, "

Are there asexual chimpanzees? Did the author mean sexually mature chimps? If so, how are the penile spines of juvenile chimpanzees different? Or is the adjective, sexual, debris from an entirely different sentence? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.78.83.192 (talk) 18:49, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Clitoral spines

Are clitoral spines as common among female mammals as penile spines are among males? There isn’t much info in the article on this right now, but it seems like there ought to be (either as part of this article or as a separate page linked from here). 192.145.242.234 (talk) 02:39, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]