Talk:Pennsyltucky

Carville quote

Some of that "quote" allegedly made by Carville appears to have been made by the author of the article, not by Carville himself; anybody else get that idea from reading it? Squamate 14:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Alternate definition

I've heard from several informal sources (read locals haha) that Pennsyltucky not only refers to parts of Pennsylvania, but also to parts of West Virginia, Maryland, and Kentucky. Anybody have a source for this? --Second officer 16:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm a PA native and I never heard the word applied to anyplace other than Pennsylvania. Just my $0.02. Squamate 04:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I first heard it in Johnstown PA from a self describing native. I am a native of Kentucky with family roots in the Appalachian region. There is a common culture among the Scotts Irish and Germans settled in the Appalachian region that covering parts of several states that include Pennsylvania and Kentucky. As a native, this term is the best I have heard summing up that culture. I doubt you will find it in any of the Universities having an Appalachian studies department. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spyder814 (talk • contribs) 13:42, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm from Johnstown, PA, and have never heard this term before until hearing it on "Orange is the New Black." I would think it is an antiquated term. I assumed it meant West Virginia.....the area between Pennsylvania and Kentucky (especially after considering the character in the show....). - RaptorWiki (talk) 15:19, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

I've lived in the North Pittsburgh-area for most of the last 50 years, and today is the FIRST time I ever recall hearing this term (in an internet news article comments section). We have family in the central part of PA, and I've spent a lot of time there the last few years tracking down genealogical history (farther north of Pittsburgh, as well), and the Carville quote most certainly sums it up well. Of course, you can draw a line from almost any point on the PA map, from Scranton in the upper northeast (excluding the wedge around Philly), to another anywhere from South Georgia to Tennessee, or Kentucky, and get the same results -- Beyond certain communities in and around Pittsburgh/SWPA that reflect a more late-19th Century Euro. immigrant feel, It's all an Appalachia thing.--Chachap (talk) 05:44, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Erie, Scranton, Allentown?

Those parts of the state are rural and like Alabama? That seems kind of ridiculous and indefensible. Scranton is like Syracuse or Utica. Allentown and Bethlehem are like, I don't know, New Jersey or something. john k (talk) 08:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Nope. Article is just silly. The northeast counties are influenced by their proximity to NYC, by the (mostly former) steel presence in the Lehigh Valley, and by the simple fact that NYC - Allentown - Philly - Baltimore - DC are more or less one continuous urban area. Likewise Erie is part of an urban belt centered about the lakes that goes from Chicago to Pittsburgh. It's really just central (and north-central and south-central) PA that makes up "Pennsyltucky". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.201.204.149 (talk) 10:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

The article discusses a slang term that is probably more common in western PA than elsewhere, by my admittedly limited experience. For example, I've never heard "Pennsylbama" in my life (almost 50 years) but often heard "Pennsyltucky" while I was growing up. I hears the word used jokingly to describe areas outside the big cities and also to kid with outsiders and little children. It does not seem to be very much used by the younger generation (who may be losing touch with Western Pennsylvania culture and traditions). "Winning the T" was added to the article afterward, and I've never heard that except in political discussions. And then there is - what parts of Kentucky or Alabama? Montgomery and Birmingham and Louisville are a lot more like Pittsburgh than Scranton and Allentown are ... in my humble opinion. "Silly"? Your opinion. I think Erie is another part of the state that should not fall under this category. It is bigger than Scranton and the same size as Allentown. It is just kind of out of the way. It is also on the great lakes like Cleveland Buffalo, and Detroit. Its kinda like Pittsburgh but cleaner and a little nicer. Squamate (talk) 01:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Our opinions of the current usage or applicability of the term are moot. Reliable sources demonstrate that the term is notable. (And yes, the term is in current use in the Philadelphia region, certainly not part of Western PA.) - SummerPhD (talk) 17:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Erieite here: Agreed. At least northern Erie (probably not even southern either) county does NOT fall under Pennsyltucky. We're very close to PIT, BUF, CLE, Toronto.. yeah. ~ AC5230 talk 03:42, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

The Lehigh Valley (Lehigh and Northampton Counties) should not be considered part of "Pennsyltucky", as that region is fast becoming part of the Philadelphia metro area, and votes strongly Democratic due to large African-American and Hispanic populations in Allentown, Bethlehem and Easton, unlike the staunch Republican tendencies of the "T" in PA. Bill (talk) 10:14, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

The 2008 Presidential electoral map county by county would support that assertion, as Obama carried a much larger part of the Eastern half of the state than the western half, though that's only one election, and the upcoming senate and gubernatorial races are probably more indicative. In the long-run, though the "fat-bottomed T" concept isn't really holding up as urban sprawl decimates the boundaries of the Lehigh Valley and Philadelphia far suburbs, and the ring counties around Pittsburgh trend right-ward. It's more like a stubby-handled hammer, poised to pound on Ohio. Aecamadi (talk) 07:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Population?

How does the state population break down into the three regions? Can statewide politicians win without the T?

Lancaster County

I guess ya never been along to Lancaster county have ya? We are NOT the philly area. Map is a joke anyways! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.15.157.158 (talk) 18:11, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Plifterston New Pennsyltucky

Plifterston New Pennsyltucky is a fictional location host to the fictional Science and Technology fair/expo called the Globe of Yesterday's Tomorrow according to the lore of Steam Powered Giraffe. In the skit they make a point of repeating numerous times that this is a beautify "real city and state". This is from the fictional lore from the band Steam Powered Giraffe, available here: http://steampoweredgiraffe.com/fiction.html Msheekhah (talk) 10:43, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

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I love this joke!

Pennsyltucky is a clever joke and a way to describe the regions! User012008 (talk) 16:49, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Oh, do you love it?! How fabulousth! Thso clever and a way to describe the regionths! Yeth!! 2601:547:CB00:3D40:A5EC:3230:1F50:560C (talk) 18:00, 6 June 2024 (UTC)