Talk:Pietro Gnocchi

Composers project review

I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project B-class article review. My review can be found on the comments page. I think the article is B class, close to A. Comments or questions here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 22:11, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

In response to one of your points, there is a drawn portrait of him. It's in MGG but it's not free (I do not know its origin). This appears to be a copy; it's as ridiculous as they say ("suitably lugubrious" is how the New Grove puts it). Compiling a works list would require a trip to the library in Brescia, and doing OR. Not much has been written on this guy, in spite of his incredibly eccentric career. Antandrus (talk) 05:44, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

The Complete Works of Pietro Gnocchi could be your next book :). You get to go to Italy, spend weeks in dusty archives, eat great food, drink great wine, etc etc. I agree, that portrait is ugly.

I think if you you specifically wrote that he "wrote so many works that they have not yet been located and/or catalogued", that ought to be enough to pass the "list of works" bar for an A rating. Magic♪piano 15:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

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==Composers Project Assessment of Pietro Gnocchi: 2008-11-15== This is an assessment of article Pietro Gnocchi by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano. If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down. Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status. ===Origins/family background/studies=== Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described? OK ===Early career=== Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed? OK ===Mature career=== Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed? OK ===List(s) of works=== Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article. None given, but it appears to be WP:OR to acquire? There is a works summary. ===Critical appreciation=== Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)? OK ===Illustrations and sound clips=== Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.) OK, although I wonder if there's a portrait of him somewhere in Brescia... ===References, sources and bibliography=== Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references? OK, but sources are limited. Footnoting is probably insufficient for GA (Life section has none). ===Structure and compliance with WP:MOS=== Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.) OK ===Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review=== Article requires more inline citations (WP:CITE) ===Summary=== Good article. Its principal defect is the lack of a comprehensive known-works listing, although the summary is good. (As mentioned above, it sounds like it would be WP:OR to construct it.) Article could use portrait of the subject (if one can be turned up), sound clips (ditto), and modern views (ditto, although it sounds like there isn't much modern scholarly work happening). B class, close to A. Magic♪piano 22:07, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

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