Talk:Pivot Gang

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Musicians

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians (assessed as Low-importance).

Hip hop Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Hip hop, a collaborative effort to build a useful resource for and improve the coverage of hip hop on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.Hip hopWikipedia:WikiProject Hip hopTemplate:WikiProject Hip hopHip hop articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Chicago Low‑importance

	Chicago portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Chicago, which aims to improve all articles or pages related to Chicago or the Chicago metropolitan area.ChicagoWikipedia:WikiProject ChicagoTemplate:WikiProject ChicagoChicago articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Illinois Low‑importance

	Illinois portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Illinois, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Illinois on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IllinoisWikipedia:WikiProject IllinoisTemplate:WikiProject IllinoisWikiProject Illinois articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

New article review

I'm going to cover a few ways you could improve the article.

The group's interviews seem to make it clear this group is notable, but the article could emphasize this more. One way would be to provide quotations from the Vice and Chicagoist article. Just describe and/or quote from the articles and then place the reference tag there. Quotations are the best way to talk about musical style, because it's fine to state that an artist or a reviewer says the music is "soulful," but the article can't state an opinion without a source.

There are a lot of names. Generally, only people directly associated with the group should be listed. "Others now associated with the group" doesn't really justify listing those people, because it doesn't say what they did. If they collaborated on a successful release, for example, you could say that two people worked together on that release.

People very often include lists of similar artists or artists that have performed alongside them. That's common in music industry promotions, but isn't allowed here. You don't seem to have done any of this, but I thought I'd mention it.

The last thing is the issue of the artists' names. With hip-hop artists it is acceptable to use only their stage/street names. You can include real/government/birth names if you want to, but it's not necessary. If you do include them, they should always be "Grandmaster Flash (born Joseph Saddler in 1958)" -- performance name first. Date of birth and "born", "aka", and so on are optional.) You have correctly stated the stage names first, but maybe you didn't know that that's only name we need, so if you'd rather not include birth names you may remove them.

Information on copies distributed (up to a certain date) would be helpful. Their music is either free because nobody would pay for it, or it's free because the artists chose to make it free (the same way Wikipedia is free). So copies distributed would make it clear.

Roches (talk) 03:12, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Pivot Gang. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131004050214/http://chicagoist.com/2013/10/02/interview_pivot_gang_keeping_it_the.php to http://chicagoist.com/2013/10/02/interview_pivot_gang_keeping_it_the.php

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 11:20, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]