Talk:Prenasalized consonant

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Re: "a series of prenasalized stops, [mb, nd, ŋɡ], ... [b, d, ɡ]."; also found later in "...but [izɨŋɡo] in much of the north." -- Isn't the ɡ here a fricative? 19:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

No, though it may be a nasal, depending on dialect. It might be better to have an example with /b/ or /d/. kwami 00:20, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

moved from article[edit]

Prenasalized t could be heard in American speech in words such as twenty and printer.

I have move dthis her until it can be sourced. Circeus 02:18, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't think *nt* in itself is a prenasalized consonant, anyway. I'd think these words consist of two syllables (twen-ty and prin-ter respectively). 惑乱 分からん 07:10, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Wakuran, you are right. We 'think' that 'printer' ought to be pronounced, prin+ter. That is prescriptive grammar. However, native speakers of English in America, even those whose speech is well controlled like announcers on CNN, speak 'nt' as a prenasalized 't'. It is just a matter of fact. We only need to listen to the speech and report it. If we only report what is observed among African languages and ignore what is heard from native English speakers, it might be construed as snobbery. What we hear is obvious and is the irrefutable source, right? --JC (talk) 14:14, 18 July 2010 (UTC):
If a prenasalized consonant behaves phonologically like a single segment, then one objective criteria for this would be the length of utterance. Is the duration of nasal occlusion in twenty of the same length as that of the first t? If so, then twenty doesn't feature a prenasalized consonant as the article defines it. I would be surprised if there weren't dialectal variation in this regard. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 14:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)


According to Arvaniti 1999, prenasalization occurs in Greek. (suoı̣ʇnqı̣ɹʇuoɔ · ʞlɐʇ) nɯnuı̣ɥԀ 23:50, 20 March 2014 (UTC)