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Sexuality[edit]

Hints at a possible bisexuality. Could be noted when he was with a suspect flirting with a man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by T saston (talk • contribs) 17:54, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While 12 years late to this, it is hinted at on official BBC materials (if those are considered canon). On the official Ashes to Ashes website, Chief Superintendent Mackintosh's report on Carling mentions at the end "Sexual orientation undecided". Along with the actual events of Ashes to Ashes, this implies that Carling could be closeted or otherwise unknowing in his sexual orientation.. ThomasTheWest (talk) 15:42, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Original research[edit]

I'm not sure what Police Mad Jack means by "That is not mentioned in Wiki rules, but what is mentioned is that no WP:OR should be added not what you think about how it is ok if some is present to start with", but either we keep the WP:OR material around until we can source it, or we delete the whole lot. We shouldn't pick and choose our favourite paragraphs. It makes no sense to keep "Ray seems to have mellowed out slightly. However, he still seems to resent Alex Drake" while deleting "he and Sergeant Viv James appear to work well together with mutual respect for each other" - the two sentences are virtually identical in terms of original research. --McGeddon (talk) 16:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant was that we should not pick and choose which WP:OR to include, you seem to think that just because the whole section is OR we should have more OR added. As far as I know this is not mentioned in Wiki rules, but what is mentioned is that OR should not be added, along with this, what mandate do you have to remove the whole section? Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 16:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Picking and choosing which WP:OR to delete is the same thing as picking and choosing what to include. If you think it's inappropriate to speculate about Carling's attitudes to racism, why aren't you also deleting the speculation about his changed attitudes to sexism? --McGeddon (talk) 17:01, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it was up to me, 99.9% of the time I would let it be included, but its simply not. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 17:06, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand. The racism paragraph fell into the 0.1% of WP:OR that you decide to delete, and the sexism was part of the 99.9% that you are happy to leave in place? How are you making this distinction? --McGeddon (talk) 17:08, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your twisting what I have typed, and you know it. I am not answerable to you, and I have justified my actions already. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 17:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid you haven't justified them to me, because I don't understand what you're saying. Is your attitude that it's acceptable to delete new WP:OR, but anything already in the article should stay there? Or do you have a specific issue with User:MileyDavidA's interpretation? --McGeddon (talk) 17:30, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What I meant was that the section has enough OR, and the last thing it needs is more. That is why I reverted it, and no, I do not have an issue with the editor. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 17:44, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, that makes sense, thanks. If you're deleting some OR from a section, though, it's usually a good time to delete other, obvious OR from the same place - particularly for the sake of the editor who added it, who may feel unfairly singled out. --McGeddon (talk) 17:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, I understand that. Thanks. Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 18:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re-Promotion[edit]

The section which talks about Ray's re-promotion is factually incorrect. DC Carling was re-promoted in Series Two, Episode One which led to Annie becoming the new DC. 80.177.217.162 (talk) 22:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The year of Rays death is incorrect. It's not the Silver Jubilee it's actually 1976[edit]

The year given in the wiki entry is incorrect. On Rays television, he can be seen watching the evening television replay of the FA CUP final which was held that day (1st of May 1976). The marching bands you see are from the pre-game entertainment. Next to ray on the couch is a newspaper showing the headline that Bobby Stokes who scored the winning goal for Southampton, who beat Manchester United 1-0. As Ray is a Manchester United fan (not City, that's Gene's team) it was probably the final straw with everything else that he had gone through. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.108.215.25 (talk) 06:02, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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