Talk:Richard Edgcumbe (1640–1688)

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Needs expert attention to confirm it is the same Richard Edgcumbe (politician) for all constituencies. Boleyn (talk) 11:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Boleyn, if you had created this article on the basis of facts which you had confirmed in reliable sources, then you would have answered this question already. If you didn't have any sources to help you establish this, then why did you create a page which asserts as fact something which you believe to be to be mere speculation?

Quoting verbatim: from the core policy WP:V As Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales has put it: "I can NOT emphasize this enough. There seems to be a terrible bias among some editors that some sort of random speculative 'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information is to be tagged with a 'needs a cite' tag. Wrong. It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced. This is true of all information, but it is particularly true of negative information about living persons" (Jimmy Wales Zero information is preferred to misleading or false information, WikiEN-l, May 16, 2006, accessed June 11, 2006).

You can do the checks yourself by looking at http://www.leighrayment.com/commons.htm and checking whether the lists for the constituencies refer to a person of the same name and the same dates of birth and death, and then referencing each assertion. If you don't want to do this, then please accept that zero information is preferred to misleading or false information and tag the page for speedy deletion with {{db-g7}} rather than leaving in place this "random speculative 'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:05, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, just noticed that the dates in this speculative page all predate the period covered by Rayment's list, so he's no use as a source. I suggest just deleting the page unless some other reliable source is used to verify the facts. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:09, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You're repeating yourself for the zillionth time - you know I was now fully aware of this, but I created this a while ago. I am trying to improve it. As for the speedy deletion tag, a couple of hours to look for sources would be appreciated, if I can't confirm anything, then I wouldn't oppose deletion. Boleyn (talk) 06:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Leigh Rayment confirms one, so I've removed all unsourced material; everything is now verified in Rayment. Incoming links which are not meant for here:

Newport (Cornwall) 1640,
Grampound 1593,
Bossiney 1628 to 1629
Liskeard 1586 to 1587.
High Sheriff of Cornwall 1610.

All removed, but if anyone has a source, then a separate article can be created. Boleyn (talk) 06:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]