User talk:Boleyn

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User:Boleyn is the same editor as User:Boleyn2 and User:Boleyn3. I used to use the three log-ins to increase my watchlist, but they can now all fit on one.

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I'm editing much less than I used to, so please don't be surprised if a reply takes several days. I will reply as soon as I'm back editing.

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User talk:Boleyn/Archive 1[edit]

Thank you for advices RudnikU (talk) 16:59, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

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More DAB's for whenever[edit]

Thanks for the great job! Here are more I have found: Alan Silva, William Odell Wgolf (talk) 15:14, 23 March 2019 (UTC) Another one I just found Alec Fraser. Wgolf (talk) 17:00, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

☑Y Boleyn (talk) 13:21, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
And this one, 4 names on it-Miguel Núñez Wgolf (talk) 15:30, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
On one case, Dick Green has a hat note, though I think it could just have a redirect to Richard Green (one of the people in the hat note actually is on the Disam page already) Wgolf (talk) 17:01, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
And here is one I just found Samuel Winslow Wgolf (talk) 00:19, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Here is another-Bill Caswell/William Caswell Wgolf (talk) 20:49, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
And another one I found-James Hinton (I found a couple more earlier but forgot who, oh well maybe I'll find them later!) Wgolf (talk) 16:03, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
And another-Frank Weir Wgolf (talk) 20:36, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
more-James Macaulay, Chris Barrett Wgolf (talk) 22:21, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Private press (disambiguation)[edit]

I agree that Private press (disambiguation) should be deleted. Will you please handle it? Thanks Eurodog (talk) 13:27, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Eurodog, thanks. It'll be deleted within a few days. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 14:43, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

2019 Abkhazian presidential election and replies[edit]

First, thanks for the note about the stub tagging, I honestly forgot to do that, and have added the related stub tag to the article. Second, I don't quite understand what you mean by me not responding to your messages? I see I addressed your concerns, and noted so on this page (see User_talk:Boleyn#New_article_referencing). Kaiser matias (talk) 12:43, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Thnks you, Kaiser matias - I'll respond where the conversation started to keep it all together, otherwise it gets confusing. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 14:32, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated[edit]

Hi, I'm Arthistorian1977. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Harrison Boulevard Historic District, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

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Catherine Parr[edit]

There is a person vandalizing Catherine Parr's page and insisting her death date is the 7th. Her own tomb says her death date is the 5th of September. I could use some help on the page/talk page. Or if you could help me find someone to intervene I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. -- Lady Meg (talk) 20:47, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

I'll look at it, Lady Meg, no worries. Thanks for keeping a good eye on the page, Boleyn (talk) 20:48, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
As you know, I LOVE Catherine and want to make sure she's taken care of on here. Thanks! -- Lady Meg (talk) 22:00, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Whoever this woman is, she has now reverted to hostility. As always, I would appreciate some help on the talk page whenever you can get to it. Thanks. -- Lady Meg (talk) 23:30, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, I've commented there. Boleyn (talk) 14:47, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
That's another two lies. No-one is vandalising the page and no-one is insisting that she died on the 7th. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:30, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Nadia Essex for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nadia Essex is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nadia Essex until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Onel5969 TT me 23:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

2018-19 Adelaide United FC Reserves season page[edit]

Hi Boleyn, I started creating a page of 2018-19 Adelaide United FC Reserves season. I accidently clicked "Publish page" instead of "Show preview", and there are no references in the article. I request a deletion of the page, so I can create the article with references into it.

FastCube (talk) 10:00, 14 April 2019 (UTC)FastCube

(talk page stalker) FastCube, just add {{db-g7}} on that page. Hhkohh (talk) 10:12, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

10:00 (UTC) 14 April 2019

Hi, FastCube, it looks good now, are you happy with it? Hhkohh's advice is good if it happens again, or add Template:In use as you finish it. Sorry I didn't get your message earlier. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 14:47, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Looks great now.

FastCube (talk) 03:40, 15 April 2019 (UTC)FastCube

And more DABs[edit]

Yep! Here: Charlotte Wilson Wgolf (talk) 15:56, 14 April 2019 (UTC) Also: Cameron Delaney Wgolf (talk) 17:31, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

And another one Andrey Medvedev/Andriy Medvedev Wgolf (talk) 19:16, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Another one: Simon Power. Wgolf (talk) 23:30, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
Here is another Ross Young as well as Susan Harrison Wgolf (talk) 22:54, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
One I just found Ana Gonçalves Wgolf (talk) 04:16, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Here-just put these as one as they are all variations of the same name: Tom Penn, Tommy Penn, Thomas Penn. Wgolf (talk) 00:00, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
☑Y Boleyn (talk) 06:53, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the work! Here is one Joseph Rooney/Joe Rooney. Wgolf (talk) 16:18, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

A older one not found till now-Phil Powers/Philip Powers Wgolf (talk) 01:28, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Here is another one Cory Johnson. Wgolf (talk) 23:03, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Yet another Albert Webster Wgolf (talk) 16:50, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Here is another one-Carlos Queiroz. Wgolf (talk) 20:30, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Here is one more for whenever you get to these: Gilbert Collins. Wgolf (talk) 22:47, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
☑Y Boleyn (talk) 16:04, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, now here is one more Nick Scott. Wgolf (talk) 23:09, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
And one more Darryl Johnson. Wgolf (talk) 17:39, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
Here is one I found (I found some others earlier but forgot who as of now): Edgar GarciaWgolf (talk) 20:49, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Here are more: Ed Welch, Charles Osgood Wgolf (talk) 18:25, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
One I just found (I found a couple other ones recently, but this one looks like it needs one) Peter Hirsch Wgolf (talk) 18:59, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Yet another one Mark Barnett Wgolf (talk) 04:57, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Lateef Oladimeji Sanni[edit]

Just in case you didn't see this, the above article was created by cut/paste from the draft. MB 23:42, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks :) Boleyn (talk) 13:16, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I recently edited a page for Sonny West, the songwriter. My username is atidwell0372. This is my 1st edit. My original submission is nowhere to be found, nor the work that was there prior to my edit. I was hoping you could offer why the page was declined so I can improve it? I know Mr. West and am working with him to try and complete the page originally started by his Daughter. Thank you kindly.Atidwell0372 (talk) 20:41, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm very sorry, atidwell0372, I missed this message. The article is at Draft:Sonny West (musician). All articles on living people need clear WP:INLINECITED WP:REFERENCES. It also read like it was written by someone connected to the subject, so would need some work on sounding more encyclopaedic, as well as evidence it meets WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. When you think you're finished, you can message me or submit via WP:AFC. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 07:21, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Serbia - GAN[edit]

Hello Boleyn, I would like to ask for your help regarding Serbia's (I hope near) future GA nomination.

Which parts could be improved and all in all do you think that there are arguments in favour of the nomination?

Thank you, Mm.srb (talk) 15:43, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Mm.srb, well done on your hard work on this article. I haven't had any involvement in GA work, I'm mainly involved at the earlier stages. However, I've looked it over and it looks very comprehensive and well-written - I have no suggestions for improvement. Thanks again, Boleyn (talk) 07:15, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you kind sir. Best regards, Mm.srb (talk)

Nomination of Rich Carter for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Rich Carter is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rich Carter until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 18:06, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

The "Tribunal de Paris" article[edit]

About the Tribunal de Paris and Wohnpark Alterlaa article being moved to the draftspace: The very least you could have done is go to the Translators Available page and ask somebody listed on that page to aid in the expansion of the articles you just moved to the draftspace using the info for their foreign-language counterpart articles. The reason I never bothered to do this myself is because I am worried that such editors may not be active or may be preoccupied by something else and not have the time. Jim856796 (talk) 04:05, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I went to the trouble of sending you four or five messages - all of which you weren't polite enough to answer. I also looked myself. The article is in draftspace and can easily be worked on there and moved back when it's ready. Boleyn (talk) 07:13, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated[edit]

Thanks for reviewing List of ambassadors of Iran to Bahrain, Boleyn.

DGG has gone over this page again and marked it as unpatrolled. Their note is:

the detail for some is too grat for a table; they may need separate articles

Please contact DGG for any further query. Thanks.

Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

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Disambiguation link notification for May 11[edit]

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Draft:2018–19 Veria F.C. season[edit]

Dear Boleyn, On April 15, 2019 you moved my 2018–19 Veria F.C. season to drafts as it lacked of sources as you mentioned. Since then I moved on and significantly expanded the whole article trying my best to do it an eligible/valid wiki article. I've submitted for review on May 7, 2019 but so far I had no news or any updates. Do you mind having a look over it? Here's the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:2018%E2%80%9319_Veria_F.C._season

Hopefully it fits the criteria and it will finally get back on where it was. Thanks in advance.

All the best, PanosBonJovi (talk) 11:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, PanosBonJovi, thanks for your hard work on this draft. It looks like it hasn't been submitted for review, are you sure it worked? The last I can see is the decline in April, but obviously you've worked since then. I don't know enough to overrule that decision, but if you check it has been submitted, hopefully it will be looked at again. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 16:06, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
  • @Boleyn: Thanks for your kind words and for taking the time to review my issue. Yes I’m pretty sure it’s awaiting for review since I pressed the review button and on the message on the draft (link above mentioned) says that This draft has been resubmitted and is currently awaiting re-review but so far I had no news on it.

Kind regards, PanosBonJovi (talk) 16:44, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Give you an "A"[edit]

Hey, good to hear from you. FYI, no need to inform after tagging, that's such a routine thing. Also, I've got all pages I create on my watchlist. Thx for the courtesy, tho. :D TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 20:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18[edit]

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Nomination of Nadia Essex for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nadia Essex is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nadia Essex (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Onel5969 TT me 14:39, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

George Hurlstone Hurdlestone Hardy[edit]

Thankyou Boleyn. I will make the refs inline citations asap.Best regards Notafly (talk) 20:49, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Brilliant, thanks. Boleyn (talk) 05:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Made a start on the inline refs.Any improvements you can suggest so far?.Awaiting more sources. Best regards again Notafly (talk) 18:34, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
I've made a couple of minor edits, but it's a really good start. Boleyn (talk) 20:01, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Sir Thomas Green[edit]

I'm having issues with someone who insists on deleting genealogy on the page for Catherine Parr's maternal grandfather. I'm about to open it up for discussion because the person insists that the genealogy isn't needed (chart OR mention of ancestors). SO I ask why do we need genealogy for anyone on here then? Or why do we have mentions of a person like Anne Boleyn or Princess Diana on their ancestor pages (there are a LOT of mentions of them ALL over Wikipedia just because they are descendants of such and such)? It's over at the Sir Thomas Green talk page. Let me know. As of right now, it's just going back and forth between deletion and undo. I finally caved to just mentioning the "important ancestors" in the intro, but even that was too much for the person and they deleted that. I put it back up, but I'm not sure how long that will last. I've got nothing but time and can keep putting the ancestry back up, but I'm not sure that is going to fix this problem. Especially if it's just between two people. Thanks. -- Lady Meg (talk) 00:16, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, LadyMeg, it may be worth looking at a RfC on this. OVerall, I would say I don't think it should be included - WP:GENEALOGY mentions family trees for royalty and aristocracy, but Green was of the gentry. WP:NOTGENEALOGY mentions that 'Family histories should be presented only where appropriate to support the reader's understanding of a notable topic.' I'm not sure it would meet that, and NOT is a policy whereas the first link is an essay really. You're right that it is widespread but on the whole it doesn't meet the guidelines. Mentioning something such as Mary Boleyn being an ancestor of Princess Diana is probably trivia, but I would include it because it's very well sourced and really interesting - that her children are rumoured to have maybe been Henry VIII's, and the descendants of those children are the royal family today. I'd try to avoid ending up edit warring, so you're definitely right to look at a discussion on what the policy should be rather than just one-on-one reverting. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 14:31, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

And another DAB page for whenever[edit]

Here Mark Holden, sure I'll find more later! (There was one I said a while back yet to be added for example, but hey take your time! Great job!) Wgolf (talk) 18:50, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Here is one I found Patrick Savage/Pat Savage/Patricia Savage. Wgolf (talk) 01:58, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
There were some I found earlier but I forgot to put them. Well one I just found William Rosenberg. Wgolf (talk) 19:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Here is one-José Caballero, which gets confusing as someone also made Jose Caballero (yes one of those ones where there is a different page with and without the accent) Wgolf (talk) 00:49, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
And a redlinked I found for a José Luis Caballero (actor). Gee this guy does need a DAB it seems. Wgolf (talk) 01:11, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Well here are more for whenever you come back: Gareth Hughes, Owen Campbell Wgolf (talk) 17:19, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Wgolf, it is good of you to hunt down needed disambiguation pages, but I am curious as to why you don't just create the page, where needed. bd2412 T 17:25, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
I have in the past, just have not done it in a while as it got too much for me. Wgolf (talk) 17:26, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Sounds reasonable. Thanks for the explanation. Cheers! bd2412 T 17:31, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Well here is another one I found that has quite a bit Peter Kraus. Wgolf (talk) 22:02, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • I went ahead with this one. bd2412 T 00:16, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
All done. Boleyn (talk) 17:15, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Richard Connell (disambiguation) for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Richard Connell (disambiguation) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Richard Connell (disambiguation) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Eddie891 Talk Work 00:22, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

The main issue[edit]

Hey Boleyn new to meet you too. I have a few questions on the Rosa Llunch Bramon and its problem. First is the citing problem, I have a few reference and one of the reference has more references to it. Whats your best advice on what I should do since I'm new. Second for the notability issue, She is has won awards and other things I'm just taking a break from her page before researching for it. Wont she also apply to the Notability standards since she is part of Wiki Project Woman in Red for the "Notable Female Historians without a link in Wiki" and has several articles and pages written about her and her occupation. Thanks for helping the pages and its issues and respond to me ASAP. --PrimaLInnstinct (talk) 20:13, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

PrimaLInnstinct, thanks for your message and welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for taking the time to create an article. The references would be clearer is they were inline (see WP:INLINECITE) - at the moment it's unclear where each bit of information comes from. From what you have written, she sounds notable, she just needs referenced info on her awards, and any other way she meets WP:PROF or WP:GNG. It can sometimes take a while for a new article to get all that added though. Thanks again, Boleyn (talk) 21:47, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Boleyn, thanks for your edit on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glozhene,_Vratsa_Province. What is the easiest way to communicate with you?--Ivsson (talk) 14:30, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Either here or on your page is fine Ivsson. Well done on improving the page. Boleyn (talk) 16:11, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Boleyn, I left you a message on Ivsson (talk) as well. Lets continue there... I'll try to find some more sources.

Have a good one, --Ivsson (talk) 16:17, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Recent moves to draftspace[edit]

May I move them back now? You asked for references, I added them. Cheers, MYS77 21:47, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

They look OK for the mainspace now, MYS77, thanks for your work on them. Boleyn (talk) 05:39, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Photo upload request (Atashgah castle)[edit]

Hello .Please upload this photo Fifth image http://ghiasabadi.com/atashkuh-castle-kashmar.html in the name of Atashgah castle. Really thank you M.k.m2003 (talk) 07:17, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, M.k.m2003, this is an area I have no experience in, unfortunately. If you lok at WP:Photo request and e-mail photosubmission@wikimedia.org then they can help you. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 07:37, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

User:BoleynOops. You not help؟! because my uploader is blocked.Thank youM.k.m2003 (talk) 07:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Unjustified move to draft and claim as "autobiography"[edit]

Hi Boleyn, you recently moved the Matthias Paul (actor) article I created to draft space claiming it would be an unsourced autobiography. There are some issues with this:

First of all, this is not an autobiography - please be more careful with these kinds of accusations, as they may damage my reputation. The subject of the article is a well-known German actor who, so far, participated in some 50 films or so - the press is full of it. However, as I am not into film at all, I am not familiar with him, and as the article in the German Wikipedia didn't have any third-party references, I didn't add any when I translated the article. However, the information in the German WP has been stable for many years and therefore can be considered accurate enough even for a WP:BLP. To the best of my knowledge, the article does not contain any contentious material which could be reasonably challenged and would have to be removed from the article without being backed up by further sources.

Don't get me wrong, I would like to see more references being added as well (but not necessarily by me). Your argument that the subject might not meet the notability threshold, however, is completely out of the picture. The long list of films easily serves to establish his notability as an actor. Anyone can view the films and/or check the set lists to look up the roles he played in these films. While it would be nice to have links, this would be for convenience only and is not a formal requirement to have. Undisputable facts like "x is the author of book y" or "Paris is the capital of France" don't need further proof. Since you also mentioned "verifiability", our policy on verfiability states that information must be verifiable, but not that the sources be included in the article (although this would be nice to have, I agree).

However, this is our normal article improvement process, and does not require extraordinary measures like moving to draft space, which I do not consider helpful here at all in regard to how to improve the article and increase coverage in Wikipedia. In draft space, it is basically me (if at all) who would be working on the article, whereas in article space many more potential editors run into the article and can help improving it. Draft space is for poorly written stuff which needs to be rewritten completely, and for questionable topics, where notability is not obvious. It is not the default measure for articles about notable subjects which can be more easily improved through our normal collaborative article improvement process. I think a better way to deal with the situation would have been to just add a {{refimprove}} template at the top of the article, and then more sources would have been added by editors over the years.

To summarize, I agree that it would be nice for the article to have more references, but by deleting it and putting the burden on a single editor, I don't think you took the best measure to achieve that goal.

--Matthiaspaul (talk) 11:17, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Matthiaspaul. I'm sorry if you feel offended that I thought this seemed to be an autobiography - this was based on you having the same username as the actor and the way the article was written. It currently has no references. All biographies of living people need clear, WP:INLINECITED references - this has none. It has two external links - one to a site promoting the actor and one to the unreliable imdb. Imdb is fine as an external link (external links mean suggestions for further reading rather than references used in the writing of the article) but would not be OK as a reference (see Wikipedia:Citing IMDb). Facts about this actor are nowhere near comparison to 'Paris is the capital of France.'
Biographies of living people with no references are usually tagged for deletion, but I felt it had some potential so moved it to draftspace instead. It is not clear as it stands that he is notable, but there was enough to make me thing a less drastic option than deletion could be merited. The WP:BURDEN to show the information is appropriate is with the creator: The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports[2] the contribution. Boleyn (talk) 14:17, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
  • (talk page watcher) @Matthiaspaul: To avoid future confusion it might be helpful if you added a note on your user page to point out that you are not Matthias Paul (actor) - and also to clarify whether or not you are Matthias Paul (DJ). ... On investigation, WP:REALNAME agrees: "If you have the same name as a well-known person to whom you are unrelated, and are using your real name, you should state clearly on your userpage that you are unrelated to the well-known person." Thanks. PamD 15:25, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Robert Romano (ER) for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Robert Romano (ER) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Romano (ER) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Onel5969 TT me 22:03, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I only created this as a redirect but have commented at the AfD - thanks for letting me know. Boleyn (talk) 17:05, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Waldemar Marszałek[edit]

Hey, I was just going to create a Waldemar Marszałek page when I noticed that it was created previously, but you have deleted it. Would I need to start right from the scratch or is it possuble to have the original page restored? Suden13 (talk) 20:18, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Suden13, it was moved to draft because it was an unreferenced biography of a living person. You could look at Draft:Waldemar Marszałek and ask the editor who deleted it to recreate it for you, but as it was completely unreferenced, it would probably be best to start from scratch. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 20:27, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank for the reply. I have intention to find references for the article. I thought you were the one who deleted it, but now I see i was int he wrong. I will message that editor to see what can be done. Thanks again. Suden13 (talk) 20:47, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Florin Bătrânu[edit]

With all the respect I think the article has enough sources for a page of a football player, who was not a legend or something. Is not my first page created and until now this type of page was more than enough. Rhinen

Rhinen, this has no sources clearly listed at all. It has 'external links' (suggestions for further reading) but doesn't clearly list your sources. As this is a biography of a living person, this is a particular concern. If those were your sources, just change the heading and preferably WP:INLINECITE them. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 18:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Ok I can find some sources, but after I put them in the article, please rollback it back from its draft status to article. :) Rhinen
Done, thanks for your hard work on this, Boleyn (talk) 06:13, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

1975 Formula Atlantic season[edit]

Hi, sorry, did not see your message earlier. I have added a link to 1975 Formula Atlantic season. Maybe also of interest: [1] Hopefully this helps? Doma-w (talk) 11:35, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Doma-w, thanks. There's an 'external link' (suggestion for further reading), was that actually your reference? If so we can change the heading and remove the tag. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly, Boleyn (talk) 17:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes, this was the link I have added. Doma-w (talk) 05:20, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Great, I've changed the heading to make it clear and removed the tag. Thanks for your help, Boleyn (talk) 06:12, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

NPL A-League pages deletion request[edit]

Hello again, Boleyn. So about two months ago, I started creating NPL pages for the A-League reserves teams. We had Melbourne City FC NPL created and then I thought I might create the other teams articles.

However, I just have to ask. Do we really need the pages to be split? For me, I don't think it's a good idea, because it is just mainly taking well resourced information and moving to another page. I had discissions with Eccy89 about it. I think we should leave put all that resourced information into one accurate page. I wanted to ask your opinion, because I don't know what to do at the moment.

FastCube (talk) 00:35, 23 June 2019 (UTC)FastCube

Hi FastCube. I don't feel I know enough about the subject area to be sure, but it would be worth opening an RfC or a discussion on one of the article talk pages. Certainly worth pausing and discussing before creating more, just in case the consensus is for them to stay together, especially as the notability of reserve teams is likely to be questioned. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 07:13, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Communication[edit]

Hi Boleyn. Thanks for all your messages. I'm really sorry, didn't see your messages earlier. Didn't know all the rules either regarding new pages. From now on I will be careful of copyright and using good sources.

Steel Dogg (talk) 10:00, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Steel Dogg. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 16:01, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Danubia is not a planet[edit]

In Danubia (disambiguation) you changed the label for the link on Danubia=minor planet to the list of minor planets with 'Danubia (planet). However, as per WP:minor planet: A minor planet is an astronomical object in direct orbit around the Sun [...] that is neither a planet nor exclusively classified as a comet. I will change the link label on the disambiguation page but I have no idea how to change the title of the redirect you created for Danubia (planet). Naamloze gebruiker (talk) 19:52, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

I've changed it to say minor planet and replaced the corrections at the dab. Thanks, Boleyn (talk) 20:14, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Karen Danczuk for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Karen Danczuk is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karen Danczuk until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Bledwith (talk) 12:50, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Radio Wave (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Radio Wave (disambiguation). Since you had some involvement with the Radio Wave (disambiguation) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:55, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

List of IEEE Fellows[edit]

Hello Boleyn,

I am thinking of working on a list but I am not able to come up with a good structure for it. I would love your opinion. I am asking you because you recently reviewed my List of members of the National Academy of Medicine. I want to make a list of IEEE fellows. I am thinking of making a page like List of Guggenheim Fellowship with all the years listed on the main page of IEEE. Then each year will have its own fellows. I am thinking of listing three things for each fellow, name, institution and citation. So there will be three columns and ever year will have some 80 to 100 fellows. What are your thoughts on this?

Moreover, I have made this List of members of the National Academy of Medicine and it has become quite long as I am working on it. I checked the pages of other lists of national academies and they have their members list by their subfield. Do you think I should do the same here? I am not sure how to find the subfield on NAM's website and it would be a great help if you can point me to it.HRShami (talk) 06:50, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, HRShami, thanks for your message and your hard work. Your plan sounds good to me, but it's not an area I'm that knowledgeable on - some of the editors at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists may be able to advise you better than me. Good luck with it all! Boleyn (talk) 16:57, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. I will post my question there. HRShami (talk) 17:09, 25 June 2019 (UTC)